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It wasn't that bad (relatively) up Solaise and over in Le Fornet in the morning but blimey it was absolutely rammed on the Bellevarde side and in La Daille this PM. Never saw Diebold this busy. Having said that the snow (piste) is in tip-top condition. Even The Face was "nice" at lunchtime. As you've mentioned @Steve Angus, it must have been the knock-on effect of the Borsat being shut.
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I'm feeling my 44 years this morning @Steve Angus, I used muscles I never knew I had yesterday. Thanks for a great session, Mrs franga had a blast too. Looks like a lovely day today. See you again soon.
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@Steve Angus, thanks, interesting updates last week, as always. Some superb photos too.
Looking at the cumulative snowfall chart. 2010/11 was lowest total by far in the 26 year period. Even so, I enjoyed great conditions that season in late Jan and mid March.
Either I got lucky...or maybe there's no such thing as a really bad season in EK!
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A well deserved day off even though I do say so myself!
Firstly intermediate - thank you! Yes I really do think that 'poor' snow seasons are never as bad as they make out... yes the numbers of powder days are less but thanks (in large part) to things like artificial snow making you have pretty great piste conditions week in week out long time after fresh snow has fallen. But the pow days are less that is for sure but if you are lucky then you will probably never know it is a poor snow winter! Indeed when I think back to some of the best powder days I have ever had over the last decade or so I can think of days in November on opening weekend and then it went weeks and weeks until it snowed again which lead the UK press to talk about a snow drought (as usual).
Anyway back to today it was so nice to wake up naturally and quite late (after 7.30am!) wow.
After a very lazy start to the morning and watching things warm up nicely out there (it was chilly at -11) first thing we all suited and booted ourselves and took Olivia for a ski on the Village lift.
It was a fun few hours and she is ALMOST able to do a vague snowplough now - bravo!
A half time drink at the Sun Bar before we did another run and then lunch at Chez Paulo... it was glorious and BOY was it a good pizza for lunch! We were lucky enough to bump into Gav and his daughter so we had a great drink in the sun and a lazy hour or so before heading home before a lazy afternoon and ultimately lots of snoozing allround before watching the rugby and another good game it was!
This evening we are chilling and getting ourselves ready for a new week.
Thanks to Radio Val for todays photo!
Sorry not really much else happening on the news front today. The weather was lovely and sunny and by the end of the day it had clouded over lightly and tomorrow I think we will have some sun and plenty of clouds moving in later in the afternoon again before we get a large storm hitting us late tomorrow night and lasting more or less for about 36 hours.... it could bring quite a lot of snow - Yay! For those who read these updates regularly or know me you will know that I pretty much always dismiss the forecast until about 48 hours out - well that time has now arrived and they are still calling for decent snow so fingers crossed!
Finally my periscope:
https://www.periscope.tv/SteveAngusSnow/1rmxPnEgjDQGN?autoplay&t=2
TTFN
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Hi Steve, I’ve been reading your posts all season until now, finally, I am just days away from my first trip to Val D’isere! Thanks for being a source of great information! I hope you don’t mind if I ask for a little advice – my snowboarding husband has decided to give skiing a go (I appreciate Val D’isere may not be the ideal “learners” destination!), so he’s had a few lessons in fridges over the past couple of months. He’s parallel turning and looking quite confident and relaxed so I’m looking for advice on where to start our week off – are there any confidence giving motorways that aren’t too crowded and not too steep? Even a smallish area would be fine, where he can practice what he’s learned, improve his confidence and have a bit of fun? And what about areas to graduate onto steeper terrain, but nice and wide and not TOO steep?
Thank you !
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Hi, out in Val D next week for the first time, and looking for private lessons. Other than Steve (obviously!) any other recommendations? I've used Oxygene in La Plagne before to good effect, and they have a good price for 2hr lessons - anyone experienced them here?
Along same lines, I used AlpinResorts for ski hire in St Anton and was v happy, has anyone used them - realise they're a franchise so mileage may vary. I'm staying somewhere in the centre (I think...) so any other hire suggestions v welcome
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hi, out in Val D next week for the first time, and looking for private lessons. Other than Steve (obviously!) any other recommendations? I've used Oxygene in La Plagne before to good effect, and they have a good price for 2hr lessons - anyone experienced them here?
Along same lines, I used AlpinResorts for ski hire in St Anton and was v happy, has anyone used them - realise they're a franchise so mileage may vary. I'm staying somewhere in the centre (I think...) so any other hire suggestions v welcome |
Simon Mc Combe (Mountain Masters)*
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Rupert Tidlesley (Mountain Masters)
Clare Burns (Mountain Masters)
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* I've personally used.
The rest I know by reputation.
For Ski Hire, try Snowberry.
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Old Fartbag wrote: |
Simon Mc Combe (Mountain Masters)*
Dave Cowell (Mountain Masters)*
Rupert Tidlesley (Mountain Masters)
Clare Burns (Mountain Masters)
Neil Woodward [Woody] (Progression Ski)*
Aaron Cassells (Progression Ski)*
Ken Smith (Progression Ski)
Amanda Pirie (Progression Ski)
* I've personally used.
There rest I know by reputation.
For Ski Hire, try Snowberry. |
Excellent - thank you, I'll take a look!
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I'll second Snowberry. Excellent service there. You can book ahead online and reserve your equipment.
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@Steve Angus, just wondered how the new Solaise gondola coped with the February crowds from your viewpoint? Also the new transport at top of Solaise. Better overall than the old system??
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Just to throw my two pence in on some previous posts/questions. I've just got back from half term week in Val D, and was pleasantly surprised by the lack of crowds. I've been to 3V and Les Arcs outside of half term and seen busier pistes. The Solaise area up to Glacier and then particularly over the other side of Leissieres was pleasantly empty most mornings. For this reason I would recommend this area for a first timer who's had pre-lessons or a long-term absentee rather than the designated greens, as these were a lot busier, particularly on the Olympic side, which for me I'd find more daunting for a beginner than an empty but slightly steeper blue.
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Thanks so much Steve for such detailed advice - I shall print off and take away with us! You're right about the crossover from boarding to skiing - I couldn't believe how relaxed he was, making really lovely turns when we went to the snowdome last weekend. This is why I think its so important to have a really positive first few days on the slopes - I remember many years back, my confidence being nearly destroyed by ending up on a piste that was too much for me. I laugh about that now, but it was terrifying at the time!
Thanks @aceandy78, you definitely make a good point about busy pistes.
Conditions look to be shaping up nicely for our arrival on Sat, all being well with the transfer, we should be able to sneak a couple of hours on the free lifts Saturday afternoon!
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intermediate - hmmm interesting question there... the gondola itself I thought coped VERY well indeed. There was literally a couple of times when the queue was out the barriers at the bottom but the queue shifted within about 5 minutes or so. The days when the chair queue was about 30m long and they had to get people into 4x4 groupings was long gone and they worked quite hard to get most cabins pretty full. As far as the magic carpets are concerned - the double magic carpet is really the only one that affected traffic flow up there... I dont think it is as efficient as it could be.... perhaps they will add a third carpet at some point!!!!! There were still the long queues for the carpet at the end of the day etc to get back down. But all in all the whole set up now is much better AND we have a really good beginner zone up there now too! However I think all in all the Solaise as a whole has become a little bit of a victim of its own success in that now with improved access up that side from the bottom more people are heading up there and that could be the reason for the longer magic carpet queues too!
aceandy79 hmmmm again some very interesting observations there and thank you for commenting. Yes I agree the lift system here does mean that even during peak season the lift queues can be reasonable! The Solaise side IS always quieter than the Bellevarde side... on that side you have people heading to Tignes / coming back from.... then you also have the Folie effect (especially in the afternoons) AND there is the park which attracts people too! But you are VERY correct in that getting to the Fornet AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE (and usually bus to the cable car up there is the quickest) in the mornings gives you nice and quiet pistes... read back to the post I made a couple of weeks back when I described how you can ski the WHOLE EK in a day even at half term! The problems with places like Genepy and Verte up Bellevarde are that they are through-fares for people going elsewhere and get busy.... you'll find that Borsat is the best green up that side and the quietest (and a great piste). You still have to navigate the Verte to Borsat anyway.
SLB79 - happy days - enjoy!
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@Steve Angus,
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hmmm interesting question there... the gondola itself I thought coped VERY well indeed. There was literally a couple of times when the queue was out the barriers at the bottom but the queue shifted within about 5 minutes or so. The days when the chair queue was about 30m long and they had to get people into 4x4 groupings was long gone and they worked quite hard to get most cabins pretty full. As far as the magic carpets are concerned - the double magic carpet is really the only one that affected traffic flow up there... I dont think it is as efficient as it could be.... perhaps they will add a third carpet at some point!!!!! There were still the long queues for the carpet at the end of the day etc to get back down. But all in all the whole set up now is much better AND we have a really good beginner zone up there now too! However I think all in all the Solaise as a whole has become a little bit of a victim of its own success in that now with improved access up that side from the bottom more people are heading up there and that could be the reason for the longer magic carpet queues too!
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Thanks Steve, great to hear the new gondola did well peak season. You've confirmed my doubts about magic carpets up top being a bottleneck. Good for beginners but snail pace. Maybe add a separate lift for everyone else...such as a short drag lift...like the one they removed? Good lift practice for beginners too as they develop. Lots of skiers seem to have a mental block when faced with a drag lift these days.
Bet the cosy gondola and sheltered magic carpets will be popular next few days with all this snow falling!
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PS Meant to post this from Radio Val d'Isere
It shows the percentages week by week of numbers of people staying in the resort this year compared to last along with numbers of bed nights.... some interesting stats there but the resort looks like it will be over 5% up this season over last!
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Interesting stats, can't believe how few people are booked in for when we are there in week 16! Should be deserted.
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Interesting stats, can't believe how few people are booked in for when we are there in week 16! Should be deserted. |
We are there for Easter too. It looks like everyone will be there the week before.
I'm also surprised at the consistency. Eg, the last week of Jan felt empty, where as New Year was busy. The numbers are almost the same. There must be a massive amount of guessing in this.
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Coming out to Val D'isere the first week in April, so keeping a keen eye on your written blog and scopes Steve, love it.
Those visitor figures you posted yesterday evening are really interesting, would be good to see the numbers from other resorts too
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Love the Mexican costume Steve, suits you!😉
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Love that photo from the Borsat. So wish I was in that powder today!
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Hi Steve and anyone else - just a quick question.
We were in La Foile Douce on Tuesday (28th) afternoon (in the heavy snow storm) when the wind picked up and the weather turned even worse. La Foile Douce quickly closed and we scrambled our skis and headed towards the Daille gondola to head down to the village. When we reached the building we were informed by one of the officers that it was too dangerous to travel in the Gondola and we had to ski down! It was difficult to walk in the wind never mind ski in it! Many people there were screaming that it was impossible to ski in such weather (and a bit more flowery language!) and they had to let us on - someone even suggested just to run in a group and force our way on. Anyway, after a few minutes of hectic screaming back and forth the officer quickly closed the shutters and anyone who was lucky enough to be inside was allowed on the gondola and anyone outside could not get in.
What would have happened for those people who simply refused to ski down in such weather? And can they force people to ski down? Perhaps some of the people do not know how to ski at all??
Looking fwd to hear your thoughts
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@01treich, not sure what you expect the lifties to do? If the wind was as strong as you describe the gondola cabins would have been swinging dangerously, look what happened in Cervinia earlier in the season with people stuck in a broken gondola for 8 hours in a storm. Would you have been happy to sign a waiver form before getting on?
ps. the more hard hearted amongst us would say serves you right for going to the Foolish Douch in the first place...
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newrealm22 - glad you like - thanks!
lynnecha - you like it that much you had to say it 3 times - ha ha!
bar shaker - it was nice up there that is for sure!
01treich - some interesting points there.... a few bullet replies:
- 'officers' - you mean lift operators (lifties) I guess?
- firstly the wind speeds are constantly monitored and when a certain level is reached everyone (lift operators) are put on alert to start putting signs up to return to the bottom / your home resort.... so not just a folie thing
- there will have been signs up at the top and bottom warning people that it was pedestrians ONLY that should travel up to the folie.... signs at the top saying that foot passengers should get down now.... these signs will have gone up way earlier in the day than when it got anywhere near danger levels for the gondola to shut down.
- unfortunately you are in the mountains and bad weather does strike.... in heading to the folie (and reading the terms and conditions of the sale of your lift pass) in the first place you must always be prepared for the worst. People get over egg'ed at the folie and putting pressure on the lifties to force them to let people on does no one any favours really.
- anyone who refused to ski down in the weather would have either had to walk down or pay for the pisteurs to take them down in a sledge (about €400 rescue fee from there something like that.
- they cant force people to ski down no - you would just be left up there as it is public land so to speak so you would be on your own.... but for failing to head the signage etc they would be covered if you tried to sue or whatever!
- those who can't ski at all - would have ignored the signs if they had headed up there.
- the liftie would be following strict protocol when he closed the shutters and he was taking a lot of pressure to break the rules he has to conform to let any extra people on.
There is SO much more that goes on and more information around the resort than meets the eye - its just that most people ignore / dont see the info!
On the plus side the new gondola set up (when it is built) should be a lot more 'wind resistant!'
Also it is worth noting that the folie is generally loathed in the resort as it is too much of a liability in many ways... yes it brings people to the 'party' and lots of people love it but the pisteurs dont like it as it makes their life really tricky at the day end (and pushes lift pass prices up as extra pisteurs are needed to clear the slopes at kicking out time).
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Hi Steve and anyone else - just a quick question.
We were in La Foile Douce on Tuesday (28th) afternoon (in the heavy snow storm) when the wind picked up and the weather turned even worse. La Foile Douce quickly closed and we scrambled our skis and headed towards the Daille gondola to head down to the village. When we reached the building we were informed by one of the officers that it was too dangerous to travel in the Gondola and we had to ski down! It was difficult to walk in the wind never mind ski in it! Many people there were screaming that it was impossible to ski in such weather (and a bit more flowery language!) and they had to let us on - someone even suggested just to run in a group and force our way on. Anyway, after a few minutes of hectic screaming back and forth the officer quickly closed the shutters and anyone who was lucky enough to be inside was allowed on the gondola and anyone outside could not get in.
What would have happened for those people who simply refused to ski down in such weather? And can they force people to ski down? Perhaps some of the people do not know how to ski at all??
Looking fwd to hear your thoughts |
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