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And this would be the same Met Office that warned us about pensioners dying in their thousands during the devastating heatwave that would strike us during the summer of 2005??????
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Acacia,
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And this would be the same Met Office that warned us about pensioners dying in their thousands during the devastating heatwave that would strike us during the summer of 2005??????
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Did they? The only iffy hot summer stories I remember were in one of the lower quality tabloids (Daily Star?) and were based on AFAIR a spread bet set up by one of the Spread Betting companies. They had wanted to set up weather based spread bets and had looked at past data - noted that a day in August had for the last 3 years produced temperatures of 25C or more and started from there. This was picked up by the press and blown out of all proportion.
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Dave Horsley,
It was reported on the "Today" programme on Radio 4, also.
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Here is another report suggesting this coming winter could be a cold one. It also makes a link with 1995/6 which it seems was another "hyper-hurricane" season. (Hurricane Wilma has just started to batter the Mexican coast - see Reuters and New York Times).
Last year Metcheck predicted a cold winter. This year they have delayed their report (due last week) to November 1st.
The report last year provoked speculation about power cuts, and I did think for a while of buying a portable gas heater. Fortunately it was not needed.
As has been pointed out above: cold does not necessarily mean snow. Cold for many means misery.
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Acacia,
The press hype about a hot summer got so bad that the met office had to make a press release denying it.
To quote
12 May 2005
Statements in this morning's media imply that the Met Office has forecast record-breaking temperatures this summer. This is not true. Advances in meteorology mean that the Met Office can now make three- or four-month forecasts that suggest whether a season will be warmer or colder and wetter or drier than normal. However, forecasters cannot predict actual daily temperatures more than a week or so in advance.
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Full release available here:
http://www.metoffice.com/corporate/pressoffice/2005/pr20050512.html
As I say a lot of it came from a spread betting firm running a bet that temps wouldn't be higher than 100F. Trouble is once one paper starts it you can get otehr news services reporting the paper's report and even if they are downpalying or ridiculing it the detail often gets lost and all that comes over is the hype.
Much the same is happenning with the MetO predictions of a cold winter. Especially with the comments that it will be a 63 like winter which the metO haven't said and wouldn't be good as it was I'm told mild and dry in Scotland and one of the worst ski seasons ever.
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Updated 2 days ago
Our predictions continue to indicate a colder than average winter for much of Europe. If this holds true, parts of the UK — especially southern regions — are expected to have temperatures below normal.
There is also an indication for a drier-than-average winter over much of the UK.
However the winter forecast should be out at the end of November
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| There is also an indication for a drier-than-average winter over much of the UK. |
Would 'drier-than-average' also apply to mainland Europe?
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rob@rar.org.uk, I don't know, it doesn't say one way or the other, hopefully in the November update we will find out more
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Drier than average suggests northerly or easterly dominated weather for the UK.
However the Alps are far enough away from the UK to often have the inverse situation, so our 'depressions' could get squeezed further south across Spain, Southern France and Italy. Alternatively it might mean easterly or northerly weather across the whole of the Alps in which case all the snow wil be in Austria and eastern Switzerland, potentially good news for the Dolomites but not for the French Alps.
1996 was a predominantly easterly winter in the Uk. It was very good in the Pennines with skiing most weekends and superb conditions in Scotland. I remember Val D'Isere at the end of January was very rocky and I did great damage to my new skis. Returned home on the Saturday and straight up to Yad Moss on the Sunday for a 'magical' day on new 'rock free' snow. 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If so, Peter S, what are the facilities like at Yad Moss and other English ski slopes. Is there equipment hire for instance (on the website it didn't look like there was)? Is it worth the drive up from Hampshire?
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Ray,
No and probably No.
Its a bit of fun if you live within 1 possibly 2 hours and can drop everything when the snow arrives.
However it can occasionally be good. Last Feb/March we had a lot of snow but unfortunately it went very quickly.
I think most of these pics were taken on the same day !
http://www.thepriceofcheese.com/gallery/twooofive/index.html
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You know it makes sense.
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Peter S, Thanks for the info - I'll cross that one off the "what to do in 2006" list then!!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Peter S,
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Click on the interactive map and Heey Presto, Winter 06 is going to be a snowy one
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Are you sure - I thought this year is supposed to be -ve - so dry ?
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brian
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ski, "dry" is not necessarily disastrous for Scotland (and North England), although it can be (see 02/03). It takes about the same amount of precipitation to produce 1cm of snow as 1mm of rain (measured in a standard gauge). Average rainfall in the winter in Braemar is 60-90 mm per month. So it can be quite "dry" but still produce a fair bit of snow.
Also, NE'ly or E'ly weather doesn't usually produce as stormy winds so more snow "sticks" and there's not as much scouring.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Our cat has just killed a baby bird (Think it is a starling). Is it nornal for birds to produce offspring this late in the season? It is pretty warm today 17 degrees.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Dave Horsley wrote: |
| ,However, forecasters cannot predict actual daily temperatures more than a week or so in advance. |
In their dreams they maybe.
Anyway zero isotherm around 4300 meters in L2A today and shorts and T shirt weather in the mountains.
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Dave Horsley wrote:
,However, forecasters cannot predict actual daily temperatures more than a week or so in advance.
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That wasn't me that was the Met Office dreaming!
The British Press is still ramping up the "Winter to be Coldest since '63" predictions see this picture of the front of yesterdays Express.
http://www.winterhighland.info/forums/read.php?2,55789
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Anyway a 66% prediction is not any use to me when planning how much wood or oil to order. I need to know in June 100% whether it is going to be cold and by how much. As it is I always get enough wood to heat from mid October to May - worst case scenario. By the time I've added my correction for the Met's usual optimism about their forecasts I may as well flip a coin.
The met are like modern day nostradamuses - they give very vague forecasts then over claim their reliability (hmmm bit like train operators on that one). We'll see if they do better on short term climate predictions.
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So it's back to the old fashioned 'cross your fingers and hope for the best' - tale some t-shirts and shorts just in case hill walking is the only sport you get
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Well has been very cold here today minus 4 at 1300 hrs. but it felt lot colder than the minus 14 experienced whilst in St Anton in december.
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