 Poster: A snowHead
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If I do not add wax, the wax which was there is removed by what I ski on. It is primarily added to protect the base of the ski from damage, and to provide a surface which repels water and so glides on snow.
I do not know really why wax is thought to be superior to not wax!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Having one day pointed myself down the hill on a yellow-ish wax temperature day and gone absolutely no-where because I hadn't *ever* waxed my equipment that I bought six months before and had used only indoors, I vouch for the useful properties in wax to repel water, provide glide and reduce friction. I will never make that mistake again. A day on my edges was not all that much fun.
Ski Wax for President.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I understand that the commercial waxes contain some flurocarbons or surfactants which mean that less of the wax is eroded and there is also more water repulsion. I understand the theory.
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they are harmful to the environment too and enter the water table via the snow melt (if you buy Evian water it is probably full of them).
Consume too much of them and you will grow breasts, buy a 4x4, start wearing a helmet and Arcteryx ski apparel and refuse to ski on anything with less than 110mm underfoot or with a flex factor of less than 130. You will start wearing an avalanche airbag to go sledging.... in Primrose Hill park. In short, they'll turn you into a flouncing drama queen.
Or maybe that's just drinking branded bottled water that does it?
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davidof, massive LOL
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I used candles last season, but found that I had to ski really slowly as otherwise they just kept blowing out!
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gary, you should meet geepee 
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gary, that is magic. Really lit up this thread...
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Bigtipper,
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| If I do not add wax, the wax which was there is removed by what I ski on. It is primarily added to protect the base of the ski from damage, and to provide a surface which repels water and so glides on snow. |
Any protection offered to the ski will be virtually inconsequential when measured against your own contribution to avoid rocks, and navigate a good line etc. The main reason for wax is to make the skis slide, usually faster and easier, but above all the smile factor (which is why you ski anyway) is that it makes skiing easier and (in)finitely more pleasurable. The trade off you've chosen is to use candle wax more frequently as it saves you some money, plus from your previous posts, you've also confirmed that as the wax wears offs faster, you service/wax your skis more frequently. As briand6868, confirms, he spends around £60 during an incredibly full ski year for two skiers, and it's very clear from your posts you spend considerably less. So, in conclusion I suspect that in reality you save even more money after skiing as the time taken every night to wax your skis is time not spent in the bar! -What a fantastic and cunning plan  I also suspect that if you upgraded the quality of your wax, potentially you might possibly enjoy your skiing more, even though it costs a little more, both in wax and in the bar  
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Jivebaby, you are being very silly indeed. I am fairly certain I will need to wax my skis just as often with the recent ski wax as I did with candle wax. It has never shown any noticeable speed deterioration (to me, and that is what counts) due to using candle wax as opposed to ski wax. Although, I am sure there probably is some small empirical proveable difference, not enough though to justify the difference in price.
As for spending money at the bar, that is a choice you make. It will not buy you what you are looking for though!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Bigtipper, I value the opinion of some trusted snowheads, especially Dwarf Vader, and Adrian = His suggestion to prove or disprove your theory by removing the candle wax completely from one ski and then painstakingly applying a branded all temperature ski wax, followed by skiing until one or the other requires waxing is rather persuasive and impossible to ignore otherwise your candle wax is the way forward argument is merely an unproven opinion, unlike Dwarf Vader, who has actually run his own controlled tests, versus your own quote =
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| but on pisted snow candle wax lasts quite long. |
which I’d humbly suggest is just a tad vague especially as you’ve topped it up with ZNW which is around the price of Frankincense which perhaps rather undermines the austerity drive? I’m also gobsmacked that you think my earnest reply is very silly indeed, but having slept on this response overnight I’m now merely crestfallen, so given time I’ll probably recover my composure completely 
I’m not able to challenge your earnest opinions as you’ve not even tested them yourself!
Your own post =
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| I still think candle wax is fine if you apply it more frequently though! I may try rubbing some vaseline on top to see if I can reduce the porosity of the wax! |
Sounds like a fantastic idea, especially if combined with the meticulous test conditions suggested by Adrian earlier in the topic. I don’t know whether anyone else is a keen to see the evidence, but I’m absolutely gagging to hear how you get on before I consider trying this myself, however, performance statistics aside, I do worry that I will have to spend more time waxing my skis than enjoying the après ski in the bar  Moreover I’m not at all concerned by gary, problem
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| I used candles last season, but found that I had to ski really slowly as otherwise they just kept blowing out! |
I’m far more concerned that I would catch fire by skiing too slowly 
I'm hopeful now that you can complete this ground breaking research to widen the collective knowledge base for the SnowHeads brotherhood worldwide.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thank goodness for Christmas, I have been able to restock my Christmas candle ski wax, I was down to my last green candle.
In my experience, the bar is where skiers improve most. Having seen some skiing on the mountain I am amazed when meeting them in the bar how much better they become as the night continues 
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Has anyone tried using soap- the small bars from hotels etc?
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You know it makes sense.
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| Jivebaby wrote: |
| Has anyone tried using soap- the small bars from hotels etc? |
No but I'm currently experimenting with tying mountain goats to the bottom of my skis instead of skins for the up.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Ski wax is for suckers.
Wax scrubs off skis after a few hundred meters on snow.
The wax effect lasts just a few minutes at best.
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Poster: A snowHead
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meh, Try marmots - they have shorter legs and probably slide better
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
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You boys (and girls?) make me laugh - thank you for making us all smile !
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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