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I went on a Uni trip in 1990 for under £200 all in. I do remember that. It was horrible though, coach travel, nasty tiny apartment with eight people crammed in. Much as I love skiing I would never slum it like that again!
Sorry to have caused so much calculator angst this afternoon. I think my point was that the cost of skiing, relative to other costs in life, hasn't changed by a huge amount.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rambotion, 1300 is not the going rate. most trips will not go to the states!!! Why a school trip would go to the states for double the cost of a european trip is beyond me. You also have to remember uni trips dont go at peak time and if you took the ski hire, lessons and food out of our trip and went during term time it would probably work out at about 349!!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rambotion wrote: |
| school trips may be expensive but uni ones are dirt cheap. Our unis trip to tignes in january has a basic price of £349, including accomodation (dorms are still more fun at 20) transport local lift pass and insurance. Since I own my own kit and will cook the entire week should cost less than £450. Don't bother with school ski trips, the snow will probably still be here in 5 years when the price of a trip drops to around a third if £1300 really is the going rate. |
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whoops! I sounded like I was moaning about the price of the little 'uns trip. I'm not, I've taken her skiing once or twice a year for the last five years and really want her to go and enjoy it. My taken abackness is more to do with trying to sell it to people who've never seen a ski, it's a large gamble. But, I'll be helping with the fundraising (and being embarrassed about it!).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| garethjomo wrote: |
| rambotion, 1300 is not the going rate. most trips will not go to the states!!! Why a school trip would go to the states for double the cost of a european trip is beyond me. You also have to remember uni trips dont go at peak time and if you took the ski hire, lessons and food out of our trip and went during term time it would probably work out at about 349!! |
Must be about 4 years ago now when my then year 10 & 11 sons came home with the ski trip letter to some obscure resort in N-America. It was somewhere in the region of £1200 then. Absolutely ridiculous and it was in term time, the reasons they gave were to keep the costs down and it was acceptable to the school to go in term time as it was an educational and cultural experience. So I thought what the hell if they can do it so can I (again) booked a last minute trip to France for the same week and the whole trip including everything cost less than the school trip for 2 and me and the Wife got to go as well.
Luckily my kids were not disappointed that I would not pay for them to go on this trip, they were actually laughing when they gave me the the letter, as they also thought it was ridiculous.
What did annoy me however is after said trip the teacher who arranged the trip decided he was going to put together a school ski team. My kids and a friend of theirs were not eligible to be in the team as they hadn't been on the school trip and as they had been skiing for years and trained twice a week they were head and shoulders above anyone else in the school. The other lad's Dad was outraged and called me to ask if I would let mine enter a comp along with his competing against the school, why not. Suffice to say they kicked back bottom.
Know it's not meant to be a teacher knocking thread and I don't tar them all with the same brush, but some of them must live on a different planet to me.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Thu 24-09-09 21:14; edited 1 time in total
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I'm a teacher myself and agree some teachers are on other planets when it comes to skiing! Then all too often we're all tarred with same brush. I've taken over a 1000 kids skiing in last 10 years. That's a lot of parents to communicate with and get feedback from.
The raw price is not usually the main priority for parents. What parents usually want from a school ski trip is: (in a general priority order)
*Safety of their child - Is their child travelling, staying and skiing in a safe environment that will minimise the chance of accidents and injuries. And if there is an injury/illness will it be dealt with quickly and effectively.
*Happiness of their child - Are they sitting by /staying with their friends
*No hidden costs. Spending money kept to a minimum. eg No paying for lunch everyday on the mountain.
*Will their special needs be accomodated (from dietary to medical to social skills)
*Will the ski area suit their ability.
Never ever ever, with the thousand plus parents of the children I have taken, has the subject of 'twin en suite rooms' or 'travelling by air instead of coach' or '3* plus hotels' been raised.
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| Do large groups have buying power? |
They do with TO's that only deal with groups ie. School specialists |
We are not a school. But a ski club with 400+ members - mostly experienced skiers. Tour operators just don't seem able to cope with a trip involving even 10% of our members.
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RobW, you need to look at TOs which specialise in groups and have the necessary accommodation, and you will be limited to clubhotels or apartments. Skiplan and SkiBound both regularly do large groups, but if you want luxury you'll be out of luck, as their hotels are aimed at a schools market and are designed primarily for being teenager-proof. Other than that you could try TOs which do student trips (Wasteland, OTP) or just book very early with someone who runs large clubhotels (eg Mark Warner, Crystal, Skiworld). You can't reasonably expect every operator to cater for groups of 100+ - it's a bit of a specialist market.
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People buying up houses for buy to let here and elsewhere is one of the main drivers of the credit crunch!
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Is it really? Why/how is that then 
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mountainaddict, I always wonder at that particular piece of received wisdom as well. I thought it had more to do with the over-availability of credit driving up prices, and f-wit banks lending huge sums to people with no visible means of support.
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