 Poster: A snowHead
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richmond, their footbeds are actually conform'able with their name printed on them, they just add a block to them [which any good bootfitter will do], but it is the same product  |
That's exactly what it looked like, which is encouraging. The end product was huge, and a great deal more rigid than my old footbeds (also conformable, I think). I was surprised that they appeared to make no difference to the ease of getting the boots on.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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petemillis, Jeraff, I've only read half of this thread so apologies if I've lost the plot. I have Sal Xwave 8's as well. After several visits to several shops trying them on and getting opinions from various fitters, and a long time plodding around Snow and Rock in Chrtesey I realised that the pressure I could feel on the outside of my little toe was not caused by the shell but by the uneven floor to the boot. There is a removable central solid bed of about 40mm wide running from front to heall to toe but in the wider toe area there is a drop either side down the shell floor. Under the big toe this drop is quite large and my right foot was affected by it but not my left.
I went for custom foot beds and initially these seemed rigid enough to conceal the void below my right little toe. Howver I thought that after a day's skiing the void might become apparent so I got some semi rigid rubber and filed it away using a circular sanding disk until it filled the void. I did this for both boots and used double-sided sellotape under each pad to ensure it stayed in place.
This solution is very DIY and I do worry that the pads will move around. If there was a proper pad to fit this void or some other professional solution I would love to love to know where I can buy such.
If any bootfitters can help, have you looked inside the X Wave 8 (2005/6 model), it is remarkable how uneven the floor is in the toe area. I have thought of phoning Salomon to ask if they supply custom inserts.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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mike.healy, I actually have a different boot (Rossignol Exalt x12) but I was interested in petemillis problem because it sounded very much the same as mine. But thanks for the idea, I will check that out in my boots just in case.
As I spend more time breaking them in, I'm beginning to think that there is generally more pressure on the balls of my feet than on the heels. I don't know if it's because of the boots or if my feet just tend to do that. Someone else suggested raising the heel to take more pressure which should reduce the pressure on the balls  so I've just bought some Sorbothane heel pads and will try them over the weekend.
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petemillis, Sorry to drag up this ancient thread but did you ever sort out your boots?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Jeraff wrote: |
mike.healy, I actually have a different boot (Rossignol Exalt x12) but I was interested in petemillis problem because it sounded very much the same as mine. But thanks for the idea, I will check that out in my boots just in case.
As I spend more time breaking them in, I'm beginning to think that there is generally more pressure on the balls of my feet than on the heels. I don't know if it's because of the boots or if my feet just tend to do that. Someone else suggested raising the heel to take more pressure which should reduce the pressure on the balls so I've just bought some Sorbothane heel pads and will try them over the weekend. |
I had this problem, had it sorted while I was in Fernie - the fitter I was talking to described it as a "burning sensation under the ball of the foot" - he solved it by grinding down the base of my footbed and base of the boot bottom too to create more height. They were also stretched to a C+ size outwards, which solved the problems I moaned about in this thread http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=21067&highlight= - I actually only could notice the burning sensation after the shell had been stretched, since previously my foot just went entirely numb at the front. [/url]
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Well, due to work and time constraints I never managed to do anything with my boots before the ski trip. Anyway, I put them on and had a bit of aching in "that part" of my right foot during the first day. Took them off that evening and the pain an hour later was so bad as the foot cramped as it came back to life. But this is weird - I put them on the next day, cranked them up, skied, they felt fine. Took them off at the end of the day and my feet felt good. Following day - boots on - same story. Had to tighten the boots more towards the end of the week. Felt comfy as anything all the time - almost as if the liners have finally moulded to the shape of my feet - even though they were heat mouled when I first got the boots. Very odd.
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Great. unless your feet are shrinking.
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Hello, I don't know if this topic is still active, being started so long ago, but maybe this will help anyone wanting to stretch their boots.
I bought mine 12 years ago, (Nordica NXT 77s) and since then my feet have changed a bit. A bunion ( eeughw, I know) has caused a bit of pressure on my left inner big toe at the base, but otherwise the booties are still fine. I figured that it wasn't the shell that was too narrow, it was the liner, so I put a Silpat silicone mat on a baking tray - I think a double thickness of parchment paper would do just as well - and heated the liner on the tray in an oven from cold to 120C, and kept it there for 5 minutes max.
I extended a wooden shoe tree to the desired width, and bunged it into the hot liner. (Asbestos or leather gloves help here - oven gloves are too clumsy). After 30 minutes, the liner cooled, and I slipped back the liner back into the shell. Result - one widened boot, no meltdowns. Note of caution - the heat will cause the sole to pull away from the liner so don't poke it or pull it -just leave it alone and it will re-adhere as the liner cools down.
I will adjust to the wider boot by wearing an extra sock on the left foot. No technology needed, just a shoe tree, an oven and a timer... 
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So im right in saying that a little heel lift helps narrow the front foot?
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I want to stretch my boots in length. My big toe hits the end of the toe box. How much can I stretch them? I thnk the left is half a size short, can I go that much?
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@glisser, a heel lift can reduce pronatory effect on the foot which can reduce abduction (rotation of the foot outwards) the nett effect is the foot can be a little narrower, sometimes it is just better to stretch the shell though
@_Ed, the boot shell can be stretched in length, some models are easier than others due to the construction, before going that direction make sure you are held securely at the back of the boot, the ankle buckle needs to be really secure to get the foot in the right place, and then of course staying centred on your feet will keep the toes away form the end...(leaning back will crush toes whatever you do)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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THANKS. I had entered the same question elsewhere, after noticing @glisser's january date. Your answer was very helpful, CEM, thanks!
Went to REI and got $50 insoles. They heated up the inner boots and stuffed my feet in with thick neoprene caps over my toes, to squish it to fit. Hurt like hell, esp given my infected toe, but the boot seems to fit well now. He echoed all of your comments. He doesn't think I'll have to stretch the boots, but that'd be the next step. No charge for the hour of labor. I'll try them on the slopes tomorrow.
THANKS again!
...Ed
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