 Poster: A snowHead
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@Belch, mine's much smaller, only about 7 litres I think. Can't find the model online, but it looks much like this in shape and size. AOTIAN Nylon Lightweight Sturdy Little Casual Backpack 7 L Purple https://amzn.eu/d/82ytZma
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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At "Sunshine" near Banff the guide told me that you can spot the Brits, because they always take a backpack around the mountain rather than leaving in the lodge.
I don't wear a backpack at all, it would be a different story if I was going off piste with avi pack etc.
I noticed three people with backpacks today in "Hemmel Fridge" and the avalanche warning was very low.
There was another guy wearing dark goggles .. he managed to walk into the end of a fence put in place to divide two lines of people lining up for the lift. Perhaps he was just a welder.
I find that I have more than enough pockets for the stuff I might need.
Lift pass, phone, credit card, spare glasses and sun screen.
Also if you carry a backpack you can easily become the pack mule and have to carry everyone elses tut.
Apart from that it does not look cool .. which is the main reason we ski.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@DrLawn, haha, I don't wear backpack or goggles at Hemel. As for looking cool, you've seen me ski with my tiny backpack; are you telling me I don't look cool? 
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Of course you look cool @Hurtle, .. you look "Ice Cold" 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| It's a bit of a slippery slope (as well as the one you are standing on). Once you have a rucsac on the "may as well throw this in" factor comes into play. |
It's certainly that for me. I wear a backpack for piste skiing because I want to carry a hydration pack rather than stuff a water bottle into a pocket. If I didn't carry it, verything else in my pack would either be in my pockets or left at home. I do like the extra flexibility when it comes to wearing/carrying additional layers, but for me that's a benefit of carrying the rucksack rather than a reason to carry one.
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All about comfort IMO. Boringly (or not) there have been similar discussions on a Carp Fishing forum I frequent; in this circle its viewed to be 'hardcore' if you travel as light as poss (only taking absolute essentials) and fish in the elements for 48hrs under a simple brolly (or sometimes just a tarp) even in -2 and driving rain/snow. The other end of the spectrum takes the kitchen sink irrespective of conditions, carried on a battery powered 'barrow' with mini BBQs / a selection of red meat and alcohol / endless porn on a tablet and a 3 layer bivvy with a heater system in tow. . . . each to their own!
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The other end of the spectrum takes the kitchen sink irrespective of conditions, carried on a battery powered 'barrow' with mini BBQs / a selection of red meat and alcohol / endless porn on a tablet and a 3 layer bivvy with a heater system in tow. . . . each to their own!
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I cant say I've ever felt the need for a back pack.
Phone - Inside jacket pocket
Cash & c-card - pants pocket
Lift map - Other pants side pocket
Lift pass - sleeve pocket
Sun cream and one cereal bar - Side pocket
GoPro and small pole - Side pocket
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I am surprised about the number who include a survival blanket. If you are resort skiing, why?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Klamm Franzer wrote: |
No need of you're not off piste.
Too cold = Mountain Hut
Too hot = Drink at Mountain Hut
Thirsty = As Above
Hungry = You get the picture......
If I need sun cream, I give it to someone with a backpack!  |
I'm not sure I could afford as many ski trips if I adopted that approach.
I'm trying to cut down on my general crap carrying but usually find it just tips into the level of "uncomfortable in pockets" so I take a couple extra things. The minimum for me is:
at least 1l of water (big bloke, need hydration)
wooly hat
sunglasses
suncream
some kind of snack
extra layer, usually for during lunch
That's usually added to by some gopro stuff for general poncing...and as that tips me into bag territory I usually take a different thickness pair of gloves and a lens for different light.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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My Dakine has a back protector built in which gives me an excuse to wear it.
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| ulmerhutte wrote: |
| I am surprised about the number who include a survival blanket. If you are resort skiing, why? |
It's minute until unfolded and I have a phobia of getting stuck on a broken-down chairlift. Also useful to cover an injured person who is lying in the snow awaiting a blood wagon.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Hurtle, fair enough!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Hurtle, ever happened?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| ulmerhutte wrote: |
| I am surprised about the number who include a survival blanket. If you are resort skiing, why? |
It's minute until unfolded and I have a phobia of getting stuck on a broken-down chairlift. Also useful to cover an injured person who is lying in the snow awaiting a blood wagon. |
On this point I could not agree more. One of us always had one. And one of us also always had a first aid kit. Always. And both have been used multiple times. Mostly to help others out.
Last year we came across a somewhat elderly lady that had had a bad fall late afternoon. Just over a crest so not a good spot. One kid hiked up and got crossed skis up on the crest which he stood behind whilst waving people off. I attended to the lady who had severe pain in her knee so not a good idea to move her. It took 20 mins for ski patrol to arrive. She still has that survival blanket and for sure was very grateful for it. It’s small enough to stick in a pocket no bother.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Onpiste backpacks look ridiculous, and throw you off balance.
But a lunchtime meal at a mountain resto can now easily top $100 a day.
Lot more folks are now taking meals, snacks, and drinks out onto the hill.
Have seen way more picnickers slopeside in Europe this season.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The other end of the spectrum takes the kitchen sink irrespective of conditions
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need some way to wash up the plates after the picnic on the pistes 
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Picnics make sense, especially where resorts provide nice warm rooms with microwaves. Daily lunch for a family in mountain restaurants can cost as much as your accommodation.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Everything fits in my capacious pockets. Including the shark repellent.
Can’t be too careful.
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Remarkable how concerned some people are with what others choose to take with them for necessity or comfort In the vast expanse of mountains and some people are worried that someone else might be taking up an extra (and extremely valuable) 20 or 30 litres of space.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 24-01-24 21:40; edited 1 time in total
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@Hurtle, oh no, sods law. All those good intentions!
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| 3 x 22kg bags for the 6 of us has always been adequate. Including off-piste gear for one or more of the kids. We all have own boots and skis, and yes we choose to take them with us. Not sure of your point tbh |
I was attempting to highlight (in a lighthearted manner) that there are probably those who regard themselves as minimalists when out on the slopes, and who scoff at backpack wearers, but who need to pack 22kg of luggage for changes of leather jackets, multiple dress shirts, four pairs of jeans etc.
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I'm struggling to understand why the people who don't have a backpack have such an issue with those of us that do.
Good for you if you can fit everything in your pockets, but I like to wear slim fit trousers and jacket and there isn't room for a hat and sunglasses in them. My rucksack is tiny, light and squashable. I can sit flat against a ski lift whilst I'm wearing it, and it means I can bung in a couple of extra bits like jelly babies and a small water bottle.
Each to their own, and all that!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Blankets as above, had to use it day 1 of last trip for a poor woman who probably had done her ACL or similar and we waited ages for the blood wagon. Her partner was mikes down the piste. She got very cold very quickly
Oh , spare specs , that’s a lesson from the past too
And I must be th only person who used to have a book in there too, for when the knee hurts too much or I was just too tired but the rest of the group were carrying on.
At one point I used to take my film SLR camera out with me
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Mammut 15L. Water bladder, snacks, sunglasses, medical stuff, sun cream, hat, wallet, phone, maybe a camera. Can’t stand carrying things in pockets.
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| JayRo wrote: |
| jedster wrote: |
| It's a bit of a slippery slope (as well as the one you are standing on). Once you have a rucsac on the "may as well throw this in" factor comes into play. |
It's certainly that for me. I wear a backpack for piste skiing because I want to carry a hydration pack rather than stuff a water bottle into a pocket. If I didn't carry it, verything else in my pack would either be in my pockets or left at home. I do like the extra flexibility when it comes to wearing/carrying additional layers, but for me that's a benefit of carrying the rucksack rather than a reason to carry one. |
Pretty much same story with me.
If it gets hot in afternoons can strip off a bit and pack mid layers in the bag. And being able to hydrate on the go rather than rely on bar/restaurant stops for liquid intake is much better so need to store the water somewhere.
And also like the option of goggles vs sunglasses, large goggles don't exactly fit in pockets very well and can pack them away depending on conditions.
And then it allows you to empty your pockets of all the other bits and pieces like sunscreen etc..
Bit of a slippery slope but you don't notice the bag and get used to it. Can sit on chairlifts without taking it off.
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You know it makes sense.
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@sev112,
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And I must be th only person who used to have a book in there too
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Nope, as I said, I have my Kindle.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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A couple of years ago you could always spot the English on the piste they'd have a backpack and a helmet. Now the only distinquishing thing is the backpack as almost 80% of skiers are wearing helmets.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Don't ever ride with a pack if it's an inbounds day, because I'm usually near the truck for supplies, but often ride with a pack because I'm usually heading past the boundaries at some point in the day.
Anyway, hate carrying anything more than the absolute essentials, and have been using a BD Cirque Vest which despite looking a bit dorky is actually really good compared to a pack - keep a couple of hydro flasks, phone and assorted bits in the vest pockets, so don't need to access the pack much at all.
It also has a really neat sling for carrying skis (or a split snowboard in my case) that can be used without taking the pack off. It copes with a full day of kit for touring, can access boot crampons and axe without taking the pack off as well. Too small for an overnighter however. The pack weighs about 700 grammes, so I just strap it to a bigger pack for overnight gear and use it for the day once I've got to where I'm going. It swings around less than most normal style packs I've used. Really rate it.
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Much the same as has been mentioned.
Spare gloves for Boy2 as he inevitably plays in the snow at lunch and soaks his morning gloves.
His grenade shaped snowball maker.
A small squishy lunchbag with 3 baguettes in for the kids and I. This is lunch number one of the day. To be consumed post ski school and pre family skiing to our first stop. Where they will consume more food. I'm usually set with my baguette, and being vegetarian, it's usually the best lunch option for me on the mountain.
Sunglasses in their case
Hat
Purse
Powerbank
Sun cream
Sweets
Kindle
Water bottle
Teabags (I always have teabags in my bag)
This thread has inspired me to chuck my mini first aid kit in there, too. It lives in my glove box usually.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I ski with my Kanken backpack as that goes everywhere with me. No issues on the lift as I've got it hung on one shoulder before getting on. I did laugh when I skied past someone last year wearing an All Stars Cricket backpack. My kids have those, they're so distinctive. I did comment that I didn't expect to see that on a piste in France as I went past. He had a small child with him who I'm guessing was the owner of said bag.
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I'm struggling to understand why the people who don't have a backpack have such an issue with those of us that do.
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Have you read the thread on pole clicking? It's surprising how many people are critical, for no very cogent reason, of what others do!
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@Owlette, just to be clear, do you take tea bags out with you into the piste?
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I only have a back pack on if I’m carrying my shoes ready to put on after I’ve skied over to collect my car parked next to the night before’s apres spot a few villages away.
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@Origen, at least with the pole clicking I can see why people may object to it because of it impacting them. Objecting to bags in bizarre, next we'll have a thread where people get annoyed at those who don't wear sunglasses at lunch.
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At "Sunshine" near Banff the guide told me that you can spot the Brits, because they always take a backpack around the mountain rather than leaving in the lodge.
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Does work well in the n American resorts, but much easier when their is an obvious base that you regularly ski down to, which is not the case in a lot of the bigger euro resorts.
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I'm struggling to understand why the people who don't have a backpack have such an issue with those of us that do.
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I don't think anyone has an issue. It's simply not for some of us and we are happy to explain why. That seems like normal conversation rather than "having such an issue". There's no particular right and wrong, it's very much a personal preference thing. I have to say I have been interested in the answers from both sides. While I don't think I'll be taking a power bank or kindle out any time soon, a little 50ml sunscreen may be getting added to a pocket on particularly sunny days from now on. Also I would have scoffed at taking an emergency blanket before, however it seems like they have came in useful for at least a few on here.
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While I'd love to leave the small pack behind I'm inherently British. Dragging 2 kids around the countryside and up the hills in the past required certain things to be available and I've got used to it.
I'm going to trim down on this BB but still require the pack to dump the extra mid layer (can't stand being too hot or cold)
Definitely need the ski lock (think PSB theft)
Sunglasses (pockets & falls don't mix)
Water (I'll forgo the packed lunch this time as it's Italy - France is a different matter. )
Thin reading glasses (lunch menu and map)
Suncream
Med kit & space blanket (obvious)
Tissues (womens toilets depleted @ the end of the day)
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But the vehemence of some of the views on pole clicking was weird. Somebody suggested that anyone who was OK with clicking, and being clicked at, was such a danger to society that he would not want to ski anywhere in the relevant ski area, for fear of an encounter! And some people who said they felt it was vital to have absolutely maximum audible warning of anyone behind them, and that wearing headphones was thus suicidally reckless, also opined that they did not want anyone to give an audible warning of their presence and anyone clicking poles was, by definition, RUDE (in capital letters ).
It was a good laugh though...... As is this thread!
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