 Poster: A snowHead
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@zedzed_uk, am also looking to the positives and that maybe half term might be quieter!
Seriously though, like you, I will be travelling with 2 children so it's not just me to think about so checking for updates. The local news website https://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie looks like it's regularly updated.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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We head out to Saint Gervais on Monday & our apartment is up by the school so will be interesting
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My fatter half says that Londoners are beginning to don the medical mask.
They've been doing it Japan for ages, perhaps it's time we caught the habit.
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Let's face it, the biggest threat of contamination is on an aircraft not the resort you are going to. I'm travelling back to York next week, I am mildly concerned about going thru GVA and being on an aircraft but not about going to the small city where the first UK outbreak occurred.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| marodo2712 wrote: |
My fatter half says that Londoners are beginning to don the medical mask.
They've been doing it Japan for ages, perhaps it's time we caught the habit. |
Unless you wear a proper air tight mask you are wasting your time with the rubbish ones you see people wearing
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| robs1 wrote: |
Unless you wear a proper air tight mask you are wasting your time with the rubbish ones you see people wearing |
Apparently that's not the case - in general the simple masks might not be particularly effective barriers to aerosol virus particles, but they're good for stopping hand to mouth transmission (i.e. if you're wearing one you're very much less likely to unconsciously touch your mouth and transfer an infection on your hands).
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Like @belette we picked up a cold with a persistent cough a week or two after being in Les Contamines. The difference was that we left before the guy later diagnosed in Brighton arrived.
The case today led to much family chat (wife is a virtuoso hypochondriac) which was inconclusive. We realised how little hard information there is in the news articles - though to be fair I am sure there are professional epidemiologists working to get that information. For example how do we know the Brighton patient didn't acquire his infection in Les C rather than Singapore a couple of days earlier? It sounds as if the cases in the news today had no clinical symptoms justifying testing, they were only picked up through contact tracing. If most cases of the new infection are mild and transmission is so easy it may have spread beyond the original Chinese origin before movement restrictions were put in force. While if so many more would be at risk, it would also mean the serious cases needing hospital treatment (and in some cases dying) are a very small minority - and the sparse information does suggest that most are those with predisposing problems that would similarly cause susceptibility to flu. (Though I agree with @DavidYacht that the case of the original Chinese doctor is worrying because there was no mention of other risk factors). Spread in a ski resort would be to people self-selected as at least moderately fit, and cases might then be expected to be mild.
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If skiers think there is a killer death zombie virus in the lifts, ski resorts will empty faster than you can count to 10.
If you run a business in the Alps, you need to prepare (now) for a sharp downturn.
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| Whitegold wrote: |
If skiers think there is a killer death zombie virus in the lifts, ski resorts will empty faster than you can count to 10.
If you run a business in the Alps, you need to prepare (now) for a sharp downturn. |
And smaller queues for the rest of us, win-win.
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| j b wrote: |
| For example how do we know the Brighton patient didn't acquire his infection in Les C rather than Singapore a couple of days earlier? |
News coverage suggests he was at the business conference at the Grand Hyatt in Singapore where a number of other people contracted the virus. So that seems the most plausible explanation.
We should probably be mindful of the fact - this chap, and the affected family could be Snowheads themselves and might even be reading this thread!
Just in case - I'd like to wish them a speedy recovery!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Think I’ll just pull my snood up a bit further
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Sore throat accompanied only by dry irritative cough can't be a reason to worry. Differential diagnosis will only start when fever above 38° appears.
It's winter time, people might get viral infections and sometimes infectious respiratory ones that will require an antibiotic, without corona virus being present.
Most of us can't quarantine ourselves for 14 days without exposing house members which on their turn can't quarantine themselves.
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We should be off to Les Contamines on Saturday 15th Feb, I guess if there is an outbreak we will not be going. If you have any info please post it on this thread. Thank you.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Bodeswell wrote: |
| Whitegold wrote: |
If skiers think there is a killer death zombie virus in the lifts, ski resorts will empty faster than you can count to 10.
If you run a business in the Alps, you need to prepare (now) for a sharp downturn. |
And smaller queues for the rest of us, win-win. |
My thinking too, I think the whole mont blanc unlimited area isa t risk 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine is concerned.
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Britain could suffer a “major outbreak” of the coronavirus, which is likely to become a pandemic, according to the microbiologist who co-discovered ebola and the presence of Aids in Africa.
Professor Peter Piot, director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said he was “increasingly alarmed” by the rapid spread of the virus and the “huge” number of cases emerging daily....
....The outbreak is unlikely to peak until the end of this month or in March, he said. A vaccine is also “unlikely” before the outbreak ends, he added. There is no cure. |
As I am of (ahem) a certain age, and have care responsibilities for someone far more vulnerable than myself, I shall watch this one closely. If the virus becomes widespread in the UK or France I shall consider the risk of infection during travel, let alone at resort, too high - and I shall bin my skiing.
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Poster: A snowHead
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On my way back from Singapore now, have to take my temp every day for next 14 days and report it back to the authorities there. It was checked at hotel and on entry to the training centre I was using. Lots of hand rub available which I think is most important. They are taking steps here, but not quite sure if it's anything other than being seen to do something. At least I know what my temp is now!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| AndrewBailey wrote: |
Sounds like Singapore has got some serious corona virus issues. Given public health is taken very seriously there it seems very strange no news has come out. We lived there until recently and friends have said all is normal. Very strange.
On the resort point / am glad I am going self catering for half term! |
My brother arrived back in Heathrow from Singapore this morning after a month long tour of Asia. Despite being screened at every airport and port on his travels there was absolutely nothing going on at Heathrow. Nothing. Does Boris know something we don’t?!!!
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As an aside, can someone confirm please if the pump dispenser hand washes are readily available in French supermarkets? We’re heading out there next week. Thanks
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Sun 9-02-20 14:03; edited 1 time in total
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@bambionskiis,
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Does Boris know something we don’t?!!!
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No he's trying to reduce the population as part of austerity 
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| bambionskiis wrote: |
| As an aside, can someone confirm please if the pump dispenser had washes are readily available in French supermarkets? We’re heading out there next week. Thanks |
Could use some strong Génépy!
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Had to google genepy - sounds yummy
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As part of our trip next month we are bringing back many bottles of Genepi for junior endos wedding reception. Love it, it's compulsory on our trips.
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If there was ever need of proof that you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet there it is.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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We have poured the last remaining genepi we have into a hip flask to pack - was thinking for drinking, but not thought of cleaning / disinfecting with it.
@bambionskiis, on a serious note can't imagine pump soap wouldn't be in French supermarkets as they are enourmous, although if you're relying on resort ones they are smaller so I would pack some if you want it for definite.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Another tip is to get out of bed early and hit the ski lift when it opens, and then you can have the gondola to yourself for the first hour or two; sometimes for a lot longer. No need to have people sneezing all over you. As well as vastly nicer skiing
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Or worse depending on state of melt refreeze cycle.....
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You know it makes sense.
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Or worse depending on state of melt refreeze cycle.....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| always29 wrote: |
We have poured the last remaining genepi we have into a hip flask to pack - was thinking for drinking, but not thought of cleaning / disinfecting with it.
@bambionskiis, on a serious note can't imagine pump soap wouldn't be in French supermarkets as they are enourmous, although if you're relying on resort ones they are smaller so I would pack some if you want it for definite. |
Thanks allways. I tried googling to no avail. Yes I think I’ll pack Some. Cheers
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Poster: A snowHead
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Does Contamibes translate as contaminated?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@cameronphillips2000, yes. Yes it does.
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| cameronphillips2000 wrote: |
| Does Contamibes translate as contaminated? |
No. It makes quite a good joke in French though, better than in English, to get the pun all you have to do is add an accent "contaminés"
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Talking to friends in resort who have a child in the class of one of the “local Brits” - about 100 people (school kids and families) were tested yesterday and should have results in the next 24 hours. It will be much clearer then if the virus has spread much beyond the effected chalet. It does sound like the guy who came back from Singapore was something of a “superspreader” but that doesn’t mean there will be loads of secondary infections. We shall see.
Six of us are due to arrive in Les C on Friday. Unless they quarantine the whole resort (not entirely out of the question) we’ll be going. I’m quite sure I’m more at risk now - standing on a rammed commuter train - than I or my family would be in LesC!
As we’ve booked car and paid for flights we may improvise to Italy if worst comes to worst...
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Just heard that all thes tests were negative - it hasn’t spread in Les C.
Awaiting confirmation but sounds like the drama is over folks
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@DavidYacht, thanks for the apology, as I was offended. And before anyone throws snowflake at me, try thinking about how it feels for those that are Chinese or East Asian, or looks sort of Asian with what is being thrown in their direction. I don't remember folks making jokes about or ostracising Americans during the swine flu, I wonder why?
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“Public Health England is contacting all passengers who were seated in the vicinity of the customer on flight EZS8481 from Geneva to Gatwick on 28 January to provide guidance in line with procedures.”
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it does seem like that when you try some, doesn't it.
