 Poster: A snowHead
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36 hours later... They could just graft on a new leg?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@holidayloverxx, I was thinking he might have gotten operated on Friday. And is still under the influence of pain killers (or the influence of gin?) 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Don't think you understand NHS schedules.
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| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| @abc, unlikely to be operated on at the weekend if it isn't an emergency |
I have had two operations at the weekend, not emergancy just standard stuff. Everyone of us had taken the option to minimise time off work, ironically everyone was in full time employment. Maybe Greggs does not open on a Saturday in Hospital, does a roaring trade in the week off people on scooters on the way back in after a fag at my local hospital.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@blahblahblah, I know planned ops happen but rocking up to A and E with something that can wait till Monday is likely to wait till Monday. Maybe that's not everywhere though
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WTF is he?!!!
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@Hurtle, tis rather concerning now.
When do we send out the search party?
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@letsgetpiste, don't know, wish he'd reappear!
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Everyone thinks orthopedic surgeries are not time critical. But a mate of mine went to his regular doctor, after waited for a day after a bike crash thinking it's just some torn ligament, could have died had he waited another day. There was internal bleeding, not too massively but just steady enough that he had lost a fair bit of blood by then. Emergency surgery was done to stop the bleeding. Nothing else. He was out nearly a week though.
Let's hope our OP is in a better situation than my mate.
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Well he's posting elsewhere...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@abc, indeed, but he was at the fracture clinic on Friday, having already been seen so not quite the same. When I smashed my knee up the clinic wanted to operate soon, but were happy to wait 24 hours as it was stable. When Batman had a similar injury at the same time she eventually went private as NHS couldn't guarantee surgery within the week.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| anarchicsaltire wrote: |
| Well he's posting elsewhere... |
So he is. I shall reserve my sympathy for someone more deserving in that case. (I thought only JB1970 did that.)
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Hi Skids ...
You've been missing me?
Thanks for your concern, I feel your sympathy, thanks it makes me feel much better already.
I saw the good doctor and there is not much more they can do but suggest RICE without the compression bit.
He suggested I go back in in 6 weeks to see how its progressing.
He got me just to have a X-Ray while I was there but we're not expecting anything broken, but it is very swollen, they'll let me know if there is a breakage.
He suggested we'll wait till the 6 weeks are up, see how it goes before we start delving into MRI.
Its just a wait and see job with me working hard on:
Resting, Elevating and applying the cold pack for 15 minutes at a time.
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You know it makes sense.
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Has ACL damage been ruled out?
I'm glad you weren't given a day to live. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@DrLawn, SIgh...I had hoped for something more conclusive...the "6 weeks" referring to what? Healed fracture? Swelling reduced sufficiently to see what's going on? They will let you know if there is a breakage? WTF? Don't you want to know right now? Don't get me started...but you need to be more firm with your expectation and care provision.
....and you know youve started an injury thread you have to keep coming back?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Hi @Old Fartbag I don't think anything is ruled out ..
But I've put that out of my mind.
I am the eternal optimist.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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IMO. It is worth getting referred for an MRI now, especially if there is a waiting list....it can always be cancelled if necessary.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@holidayloverxx sorry ..
I'm back now . but you sum it up ... I dont know what is going on, and I dont think jumping up and down on the overburdened NHS is going to help .... plus its going to hurt my knee even more.
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@DrLawn, You are quite right...it is not about jumping up and down on the NHS...it is about asking questions at every step and making sure you understand exactly what is happening and why.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Just about covers it in my mind!
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| anarchicsaltire wrote: |
| Well he's posting elsewhere... |
So he is. I shall reserve my sympathy for someone more deserving in that case. (I thought only JB1970 did that.) |
He asked opinion and got some. He asked for sympathy and got some too. He doesn't need either any more now that he's been seen by the fracture clinic.
End of the thread?
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Mon 24-10-16 10:26; edited 1 time in total
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@DrLawn, have you seen a physio? When I is my ACL, in and saw the orthopedic consultant (after weeks of waiting to see him) he said that the first thing I had to do was get the swelling down and referred me to physio for that.
Second knee injury (not acl) I saw the physio just before being operated she was appalled that I hadn't been doing any physio before the op. I explained neither my gp or consultant had said to, and her respond was sadly unsurprised, but said that physio before can really improve outcomes after and recovery time.
Subsequent knee injuries I have gone to see private physio first (partly due to ability to get appointments quicker!)
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Not great news, sounds like you are in for a frustrating few weeks, it's hard to get a physical diagnosis while knee is swollen so try you best to work on the swelling. Was the kneee stable immediately after the accident?
I would consider paying for a private MRI and report to be done.
If it looks like an ACL injury or other issue requiring surgery at least you can present a chase and get on a list to see a specialist.
Good luck with the swelling and keep us posted.
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Sorry again guys .. I could not understand why you were all getting so irritable with me ...
I've just looked again at the thread and there is nothing on here between 10am on Friday and 11am.
I was busy posting away to you and keeping you updated right up to the time I went in for X-Ray.
I dont know what happened ... I know I managed to add a couple of trivial bits to other threads while I was there. But somehow what I though I'd put on here has not turned up.
I did ask whether I should get some private physio and the answer was "no".
I've had had a bit of an odd weekend stuck in Lowestoft on family duties but now can get back to concentrating on getting this knee cooled down and elevated.
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I think the good folk on here empathize with your situation and realize that you have a tight deadline to meet if you want to make the Pre Season Bash.
If you need any sort of intervention to speed up recovery, you need to know the extent of your injury ASAP....and not starting the process in 6 weeks time.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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6 wks without any physio sounds rather concerning to me based on my experience with various knee injuries. You will get a lot of muscle loss.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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^ ^ ^ Exactly this! We want you to be there!
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I did something similar back in Jan, made the mistake of going to the doctors rather than the hospital which slowed everything down, eventually got an MRI which Id suggest you need.
It then took about 2 months before I got the results at the doctors and then another 4 months before I could se a specialist, all this time the doctor said rest it and dont do anything, but it was getting worse and worse, turns out when I saw the specialist that the doctor had given me the wrong advise and I should have been exercising it as much as possible. Id damaged my KNee when I was little and got some OCD disease which had damaged the cartelidge, by resting my knee all the muscle had degraded around the injury and it was the old injury that was giving me all the pain.
Waiting the 6 months before seeing the specialist was a big mistake as it made the pan and recovery much worse. Id suggest trying to insist on an MRI if you can
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You know it makes sense.
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That was meant to point to Old Fartbag's post, but I also agree with NickyJ.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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If I recall the advice correctly that I was given in resort after a similar sounding incident where acl break was eliminated using Lachman test; when resting I had to elevate it, when walking I was to wear the knee brace to provide correct support. Far from doing nothing, I was allowed to ski on easy blues and greens with the brace which was fine by me having concluded that lessons were called for. Without the brace, walking let alone skiing felt really dodgy. Cue: pulling up trousers and icing the knee at the lift station after 2 hours The brace stayed on for all lessons for several months through the summer. What we need from NHS initially is elimination of worst case scenario.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Good luck and fingers crossed for you! 6 weeks is a long time and if your injury is of a more "harmless" type like MCL sprain your knee will probably be well on its way to recovery. I injured MCL a few times and every time it was very painful and seemed like it would take forever to heal and it in a way did as swelling took long time to disappear but in two months time I would forget I had injury at all. If your knee is swollen MRI probably won't be very accurate anyway. But I would try to get one as soon as swelling goes down especially if there are no other noticeable improvements.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hi Skids!
For my own peace of mind I've just been along to see my local GP.
I told her that I had been nagged by the Snowheads into insisting on an MRI.
She was very good about it ...
I dont have an ACL injury ... it would have been a lot more swelling ...
She did all the tests and she tells my its a bruised/sprained "lateral collateral ligament (LCL)"
In a few weeks I'll be as right as rain (or snow at altitude) and to go home and stop whinging.
No point in physio till the swelling has gone down at least.
I could get a feeling of confidence if I use a brace, but not really required.
Use the ibprufen gel rather than tablets, it will work well on this ligament as its so near the surface.
Ice packs .. Good idea
Elevation of leg above heart.
& Rest.
Anyway I want to thank you all for your prayers and good wishes ... they worked well and I'll see you all at the Montreaux Jazz Bar in December.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Great stuff and sensible, that would be a result, but I'm not sure that a lack of swelling is much of a tool for diagnosis, anyway a top tip would be to go swimming, it amazing at helping shift the swelling, just don't do breaststroke! Keep us posted and good luck
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@DrLawn, good news!
I'd be down there asking for physio as soon as the swelling is gone. Make sure the doc/physio knows your recovery goals (ski holiday in x weeks) and tell them you're concerned to get the leg strong so you don't end up doing yourself more damage. If the NHS cant get you physio quickly enough consider a private appt - it can be suprisingly inexpensive.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Result!....and piece of mind.
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@Charliee, Whats wrong with breaststroke?
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To reduce the swelling use a towel soaked in apple cider vinager, not drippng wet, but well damp and lay on the area and wrap with clingfilm, leave it for an hour at a time, works wonders, better than ice, which is not now recommenced anyway as ice causes damage !!!
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Hey @yorkshirelad, are you pulling my leg?
This smacks a bit of Jack n' Jill to me.
"Vinegar and Brown Paper"
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| DrLawn wrote: |
Hey @yorkshirelad, are you pulling my leg?
This smacks a bit of Jack n' Jill to me.
"Vinegar and Brown Paper" |
Though makes much more sense of that rhyme!
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| DrLawn wrote: |
| @Charliee, Whats wrong with breaststroke? |
Don't know about LCL but when I sprained my MCL it took longer before I could do the breaststroke kick comfortably again than it did to ski. Not that I'm much of a swimmer but I take my lads regularly for a splash around.
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