 Poster: A snowHead
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@under a new name, I agree that 40,000m heli vertical is good in 6 days. I'd say that's equivalent to 10-12,000m of on piste hooning per day in terms of effort required. I've heli'd in Whistler at 5,000m/day which was comfortable and in NZ at 7,700m/day which killed me. No way could I have done that amount for a week!
I believe the PdS tour is about 80km but I've never been there so I've no idea how tough it is or isn't.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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[quote="pam w"]
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When I ski, looking at the views is a key part of my day. |
That's what ski lifts are for 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Raceplate, PdS tour not tough at all.
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Hi According to my friend's apps when skiing in Espace Killy last week we we typically skiing 7800-9500 vertical metres per day, the majority of days being 8500 with one day peaking out at 9500. Typical skiing distance excluding lifts was about 30 miles on the 9500 metres day we ended up skiing approx 35 miles/56km. We were skiing fairly long runs with little problem with queuing. I would say we ski quicker than th enorm while being controlled. Typically we'd stop around 11 for a coffee ski for a late lunch for an hour and then ski back. Generally we didnt ski much after 1630 (old legs couldnt hack it any more).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Raceplate, If you look at the Skiline top 100 distances page of electronic data one guy managed 178 km in a day. Many people are doing well over 20k vert metres. The other day myself and Kooky did 123 and 131km taking 35 lifts and skiing on SL skis with only one 3 minute loo stop all day.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Thu 26-03-15 11:29; edited 1 time in total
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You are talking almost 19,000 vert metres in a day for the 137km. The passes are tracked for vert m, lifts taken, times between lifts and downhill distances of the pistes between the lifts.
Many days though we have had a fantastic time doing only 16km but taking offiste routes down. The large distances clocked up were as a result of deliberately trying to beat 100km For locals who ski all winter and are fit doing these distances is no problem.
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Here you go Raceplate. Of course it´s not accurate to the exact kilometer as it depends on the line you take down, but TBH it´s not just about how many kms I can rack up in a day, I hope I am not that anal yet, but I just like to see how far I can push myself physically without a beer stop
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@Scarpa, what ski area ?
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@Raceplate, feel free to join us if you are out this way, going to have a crack as the Schlossalm next season the target is 100 miles in a day.......get in training cos we won't be waiting about for you 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Good work @Kooky, I never doubted you.  Ange
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Two circuits of the Sella Ronda in a day would be quite easy - that would be about 90k
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You know it makes sense.
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| After a superb week in the Dolomites last week, perfecting the technique with Rob@rar and Insideout skiing, I just checked my lift pass and discovered i'd skied 210KM, which I was quite disappointed with. What's your average distance in a week? |
My lift pass analysis suggests I covered 197km with uplift of 33km! I think that's pretty good considering the time we spent standing around, absorbing Rob's wise words and then trying to put them into practice
On the last morning (one-legged carving!), I lapped the Biok lift 17 times in succession  . That's probably not much mileage for 3 hours' skiing
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| red 27 wrote: |
| Two circuits of the Sella Ronda in a day would be quite easy - that would be about 90k |
The Sella Ronda is about 23km (of skiing) in either direction - here http://sellaronda.info/eng/index.html
Last week, we did the Orange Ronda plus Saslong from San Cassiano. It was a long day in tricky conditions.
I know people who lap it twice in a day but that's beyond all but the best (and fastest) skiers IMV.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I like to take the GPS out on the first couple of days in a new resort as it helps me relate the distortions of a ski map to the real geography.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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On a recent trip to Châtel I wore a garmin on about 4 days. On a relatively "big" day we managed ~70Km but on days when we did a lot more off-piste mucking about, this dropped to ~50Km (and was pretty consistent over 3 days).
I could link to my Strava page, but then you'd all start laughing at how slow I ski (bike, and run
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@Red Leon, Ah yes - my bad... I had 45k in my head but was counting the lifts too perhaps. No wonder I was surprised how quick it was 
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A couple of weeks ago we went over to St Jean d’Aulps for the day and parked up at La Grande Terche. It’s a sleepy little spot with a gondola up to the beginners area, a long drag lift to a col and after a ski down a slow chair to another col. You can then ski over to another even sleepier spot called La Chevrerie. It has a slow chair followed by a drag lift up to a col. From there you can ski back to the bottom of the first gondola.
From a bit of judicious work on google maps I reckon the full circuit is about 20km. As well as skiing most of the runs under the lifts a couple of times we managed three circuits. We also had a quite excellent lunch over about 90 minutes at the top of the second chair half way through our second lap. Then we went home though the lifts were still running. Total distance about 60km. Just pootling along. Each circuit about 75 minutes. Total vertical not very much to write home about – I’d guess maybe 5,000m but the runs from the cols take you all the way down two very pretty valleys.
My point really is you can cover a hell of a lot of distance in a day on skis if the lifts/runs conspire to help you. I’ve no doubt the comments on 100km+ days are entirely genuine. Likewise 10,000m days if you have fast lifts and steep terrain.
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So if I spent all day riding up the Pardatschgratbahn and skiing down from first lift 0830 to last lift 1630 I would ski at least 102km (measured as the crow flies) and descend around 37,530m in total.
Easily achievable if the pistes were in perfect condition and clear of idiots.....and also time for food, beer and frivolity on the ride up each time.
Will I be doing this.....no
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@Raceplate, At least you believe the figures now
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Incidentally, if you do the maths you're skiing 505m vertical and 3.9km per lift. I'm skiing 450m vertical and 2.6 km per lift. If you extrapolate that I would be covering 505m in 2.9km, a whole km less than you. I'm out skiing so I can't do the exact trigonometry but I'm pretty sure that means my average gradient is considerably steeper than yours.
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I can't believe that somebody would actually sit down and work that out.
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if the pistes were in perfect condition and clear of idiots.
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"idiots" being people skiing around in leisurely fashion admiring the view I suppose?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| pam w wrote: |
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Incidentally, if you do the maths you're skiing 505m vertical and 3.9km per lift. I'm skiing 450m vertical and 2.6 km per lift. If you extrapolate that I would be covering 505m in 2.9km, a whole km less than you. I'm out skiing so I can't do the exact trigonometry but I'm pretty sure that means my average gradient is considerably steeper than yours.
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I can't believe that somebody would actually sit down and work that out.
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Objective statistics save a lot of subjective arguments....
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@pam w, yes, but that's because you are an archetypal old punter (and no, owning an apartment and having a season ski pass doesn't remove you from that category; it's an attitude of mind)
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Poster: A snowHead
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@pam w, you need to be a man to understand the urge we have to work these things out.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Scarpa, I assume your pathetic attempt to rile me is because I questioned your distance in a day. I have no issue at all about you skiing 123km in a day but why are you only skiing beginner's slopes? Don't you think you should progress to something more challenging?
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Now man up and start acting like an adult towards other people... or will we have to tell you to trig off |
I think that kind of comment is completely uncalled for. It's personal abuse with no foundation. As a member with nearly 20,000 posts I'm pretty sure you will know exactly why this forum was formed in the first place. It was supposed be an escape from the SCGB but your comments are displaying exactly the same prejudice to "less experienced" skiers that they used to show.
You're more than welcome to ski with me in the 3V's any time I'm there. I'll show you around and if you can keep up, the beer's are on me.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Raceplate, without meaning to join in on anyone else's argument... The title of the thread mentions 'how far?' Not vertical or gradient. So I'm not sure why you're now bringing this in to the equation when distance is all Scarpa was referring to.
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@hammerite, absolutely it does but the inference is that "how far" is also best. "How far" in the prevailing conditions is actually what's best, which means taking into account gradient and slope conditions.
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@under a new name, your perception's wrong. I'm direct, not rude, there's a difference,
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@Raceplate, some might differ.
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