The Gove Effect

Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?

and he's off to be Chief Whip.

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Ms Micky Morgan his replacement according to the Beeb : What do her supporters say? Described by the Daily Mail as a protégé of Chancellor George Osborne, her confidence at the dispatch box has won her many fans, although some detractors describe her as "headgirlish".

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No good, back on the 5th, so 5 days missed. Bummer.

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blahblahblah, would you not be OK with 5 days unauthorised absence? That'd be OK in most areas.

pam w, I don't know, 3 would be straightforward, but 5 might be pushing it, my children had over 98% attendance this year so in theory would not be a problem.

The other issue is the holiday is for 2 families, and all parents involved work, so although the saving is worthwhile, using extra holiday after being on holiday has its own complications.

We would only need to book the 2nd off as holiday as the rest of the week is off any way. It is annoying, but such is life.

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I knew this would be the place to read about the fresh changes for our beloved Mr Gove. I do wonder what the outcome will be... Whether or not they'll respond to public wishes to return to the previous methods of requesting a family holiday during term time. I realise there are LA policies in place, but not many of them stretch to much more than a bereavement or similar.
I am all for reducing the absenteeism percentage... but that's not to say I condone depriving those who've an excellent attendance record.... as does my boy. 99.5% this year.... never been absent for sickness reasons.

I guess ultimately a discretionary approach is much harder to monitor than a blanket policy.

Would love to see some changes. I even explored the flexible home tutoring route... even that seems to be a series of hoops to jump through and loopholes to find.

All of that said... my son receives a great education... feel very fortunate in that respect. Still might bunk off to save ourselves £2k!! Smile

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The more teaching unions say how they won't miss Gove, the clearer it is why parents needed him to stay........

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Louis, if parents wanted him he wouldn't have been demoted as an electoral liability.

All the parents I have spoken to today (and all the students) are pleased he's gone.

You know it makes sense.

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achilles, agreed. I'm not sure his profile won't be even higher now than previously.

Incidentally, I think the chances of the new guidelines changing is extremely slim.

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achilles, IMO it undoubtedly is, and I'm sure Gove will consider it so no matter what he and David Cameron say. A sideways move would have been to another Department, although probably not Wales. A promotion would have been the FCO. A non-Cabinet party position is a step down from running a department of state.

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He has been demoted, but not as an electoral liability. He's been demoted for his spat with Theresa May. All IMV of course.

Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?

laundryman, I'd agree there's an element of that as well. May is pretty ruthless, I'd say.

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rob@rar, I can see your view. Lot of fingers in a lot of pies, though. Depending on Cameron's support, he could be a very powerful force.

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achilles, if Cameron had wanted Gove to have his fingers in lots of pies (not a job that the Chief Whip normally does), he would have given him Oliver Letwin's position as policy supremo. Not saying the Chief Whip isn't an important role, but it's not policy driven, it's there to manage business and keep the troops in order. In the dog days of this parliament the troop dragooning might not be too big a job so perhaps Gove will be the Minister for the Today programme, but that's still not in the same league as running a department.

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Maybe Gove will start fining MPs for not attending parliament!

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Time will tell. He had a hard job taking on a highly unionised profession - and the changes he has made will probably stick for a long time - though I am not clear if they were all beneficial. As for fining parents - maybe they should have been linked to tax code if they were to have been effective. Something that the new minister could look at Toofy Grin

Not at all sure he is the right man for Tory front of house - but no one can cause him of being an Old Etonion. He did get to Oxford via an independent school - but that was only after he had won a scholarship.

I wish those in Government involved with education would talk to the best teachers in all standards of schools and take advice from the coal face. Good teachers are leaving in droves and it will shortly be impossible to get teachers to take posts in schools where the kids are from the lower socio-economic areas.

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Frosty the Snowman, as far as I can tell the Gov't has spent half it's time talking to these super heads and wizard head teachers e.g Charlie Taylor.. The trouble is they are still faced with the unions and the govt probably feel that this is a battle that needs to be had and that the unions needs to be crushed.

You know it makes sense.

foxtrotzulu, the superheads are not the ones they should be talking to IMO. They are good at running schools not at teaching children.

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