 Poster: A snowHead
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My skiing was ok, but this year i had a basi ski instructor trying to get my technique better, but because when i went a bit faster the vibrstion through my knee was too much, hence slow and more turns and more stress on the knee, tried like heck to use the skis more but i felt hsndicapped.
After the third day i realised i would not be going skiing again this season ....
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What skis were you using? When coming back from my TPF I quickly discovered that I was much more comfortable on race stock GS skis. They are relatively heavy, straight and stiff, but I could cruise around on them wighout much effort and the very smooth ride eliminated precisely the problem you describe. By sticking to wide pistes I could keep the speed down by making long rounded turns.
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Seeing the physio today and hopefully a workout routine, as soon as i can im starting at the chill factor as well for training through the year
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hyperkub, good point. I recall yorkshirelad first went on softer skis at Chill Factore. My skis are pretty heavy and I like them for the reason you describe. In fact for my next trip I am borowign my firend's skis which ae even heavier!
yorkshirelad, Good luck with the programme.
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Completely agree with hyperkuband holidayloverxx . I normally ski with Head all mountain skis or the heavier Salomon Enduro but since my knee problem in Nov (arthritis and no cartilage ) I only ski with Head Super Shape racing skis and the difference (which I would hardly notice with a normal knee) is amazing ! In fact after 8 weeks of knee strengthening exercises I tried the all mountain skis again for the first time this morning to see if I could now ski in them. I did one run ok but decided to change them for the racing skis as I felt it was still putting too much strain on the knee. I will now stick with the racing skis until my op.
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I used the enduro rockers....going to stick with my x wings for next season though
Physio now having me build the muscles up plus still wants me at the ski dome regularly which is fine by me
Re gym work..no running...no horizontal leg presses...any knee raises must have very low weights on...so its cycling and squats n lunges...oh joy !!
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yorkshirelad, sounds about right but you'll be able toadd more incrementally. I couldn't run if I tried...
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holidayloverxx, i was starting to run just before i went skiing..felt very strange, as certain muscles were not there any more lol...
today the knee feels like it did before i went skiing three weeks ago, soooo tempted to go again in march but i know i must resist !!
ski buddies in Selva at the moment then some going to chamonix this weekend as well  oh i wish i could turn back time !!
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yorkshirelad, you may not have to resist - you can do a lot in 6 weeks! It took me 3 weeks to recover after my 1st trip - Val d'Isere early December - and only a few days after my 3rd - Flachau 6 weeks later
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yorkshirelad, Good luck with it.
If you are skiing the dome regularly and building up your strength an 'easy' trip could be OK ? With regard to ski's, I used my 'cheat' GS ski's with an easy (17m side cut) rather than wider the off piste\rockered jobs that might need more leg rotation \ pivoting to work.
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holidayloverxx, im going to see how it is in a month, if alls well i might sneak a week away again, but i really want to ski hard and fast, which i cant do at the moment due to vibration through the joinr ;-( .....never say never !! 
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yorkshirelad, good luck - I think the right skis might help; I don't think I get vibration through the joint with my heavy thin skis, but the brace might be protecting against it
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yorkshirelad, my knee twinged a bit today, more than once. And every time it did, my technique was rubbish. It's a bit swollen and stiff tonight, but nothing drastic (must remember to take an Ibuprofen). I am fairly convinced that if I'd been skiing well all day my knee would be absolutely fine. I'm not decrying strength training, but unless your technique is 100% (and, of course, maybe it is, unlike mine) that's also something to concentrate on. Skiing even a bit in the back seat is horribly bad for knees.
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You know it makes sense.
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pam w, my technique was great in the morning, but as the day went on the knee started to grumble, it just got worse, once i stopped skiing the swelling came up, but no pain, then it became very tight and did not want to bend.
At the moment my knee feels like it did in october, so ive regressed quite a bit....so i think going again in march may not be a good thing, especailly when physio says no as well ..
Enjoy your skiing and give the knee a good massage in a morning..it helps
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At the moment my knee feels like it did in october, so ive regressed quite a bit....so i think going again in march may not be a good thing, especailly when physio says no as well ..
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what a shame, after all your hard work.
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Poster: A snowHead
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yorkshirelad, yes, a shame - just not strong enough yet
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Have started at the gym now with a program that i could not do before i went skiing....first session today and the difference between good leg and damaged one is sooo far...
Im getting there....roll on next season 
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yorkshirelad, does that mean you just work on the bad leg, to reduce the disparity? I was told by a physio that my left leg (the bad knee) was weaker, and that I should try to even them up, but never really have done that - I tend to do all exercises symmetrically. Maybe I shouldn't?
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pam w, no definitely stick with symmetrical. I ended up concentrating so much on my bad leg I ended up with that one stronger in some aspects than the good leg  .
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NickyJ, Yes got to work on both.
yorkshirelad, The difference will be noticeable but if you are doing exercises you couldn't do before then that's great. I've just managed. this week after being told to do them in November, to be able to do side lunges, Sumo squats with 16kg after barely managing 8 a few weeks ago, leg press 57.5kg when I struggled with 30kg after my first trip. I think you'll surprise yourself with progress if you are going to the gym several times a week. The trick is to keep making it harder. No sooner do I manage to do something than my badass physio throws in a new twist - sumo squats with 16kg? If you say so...do it on the trampette!
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Ive not to do leg presses or running. Even leg lifts on the machine have to be done with minimum weights, after a bit of that the joint ached.
Im doing both legs, but pushing my ankle forward against any force is nearly impossible....and hurts the joint so have to be carefull and do other excersizes to compensate...its hard.
It seems very easy to agrevate the joint..cycling is still best thing
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yorkshirelad, my physio doesn't advocate leg lifts (the thing where you put your legs under a roller?) so I don't so them. You'll get to do the harder stuff when your knee is ready....
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holidayloverxx, exactly what my physio said, but i had to try it to see what the difference between the legs was...it was vast..left leg as weak as a puppy.
the more i think about it the more i'm amazed i could ski last month,..
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yorkshirelad, see, you did well! 
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I'm 18 month post-ACL reconstruction in my left knee (which I think is less dramatic than the tibia break you guys are recovering from) and I know that that leg is still weaker than the other one. I was fortunate to have a very pain-free experience, which meant my left leg never nagged me to get off my lazy bum and help it. In my everyday life and when hiking, I don't notice the difference but, when I started cycling up the Col in the autumn, my RIGHT thigh felt the burn more quickly and more severely, suggesting I was over-reliant on my "good" leg. I've had a few private ski lessons recently and my technique has definitely sharpened up but I can tell there is still a weakness on the left side. I did 3 days of off piste skiing Mon-Wed this week and yesterday when I woke up the muscles below my left knee were a little tender (no swelling thankfully and they were fine by the evening) but I have been slack with the strength training and I realise I'd be foolhardy to ignore that now that I'm pushing myself more on the slopes. I am going to use the next few weeks of school holidays as an opportunity to focus on balance and strength in my left leg off the slopes. If any of you guys have any recommendations of what's really worked for you, would love to hear them. I think Jonathan Bell has something on a Facebook page I might search around for too.
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miranda, miranda, The exercise programme is on Wimbledon Clinics Facebook page - I can't link becuase I can';t get FB at work. It's hard (but effective) work!
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holidayloverxx, great, thanks - I'm going to start today!
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miranda, Good luck with the side planks, suno squats with weights and other sadistic tortures!
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You know it makes sense.
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Might have a nice cup of tea first, before I'm brave enough to look!
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We'll...having had intense gym work since January ski trip my knee is in superb shape...but wife won't let me go skiing till December ..oh we'll at least all the pain and sweat is worth it...I'm told anyway...those vibrating plates really get to the parts other excersizes don't reach..
So Wednesday I'm at the chill factor ...trying to go throughout the year !!
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Poster: A snowHead
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yorkshirelad, excellent news. You will be a ski god next season
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so after all i've going through to get sorted, it turns out the way i have been walking do to favouring my other leg etc. i now have mortons nerve neuroma in my left foot...so injections friday !!!! next thing i wonder ??
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yorkshirelad, Oh dear It's so easy to favour the other leg when tired or in a hurry. I get told off by everyone
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I still limp but don't know why !!!
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back in chill factor wednesday to see if injections are having any effect
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yorkshirelad, hope the injections help.
Re the limp...I limp a bit in high heels but try not to. In flats I'm generally OK. You may need your physio to check your gait.
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One thing I noticed. ..it's been 1 year and 1 week since my injury. My physio told me it would take a year to feel "right". It doesn't feel right but it was if a switch was flipped last week. My movement and strength suddenly felt more normal, I found I could run (well, trot) a bit and I did the hardest gym session I could have imagined.
He did say a while back that if I hadn't seen significant improvement by the early summer then it was unlikely to ever feel right. I am confident that the next 6 months should get me there. If it doesn't then I will have to resign myself to the legacy... .but to give myself the best chance I plan to keep up the weekly physio sessions.
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yorkshirelad, bracket moving
Interesting that you can ski hard, but at a dome is much different (as you've found) to skiing a mountain becuase of the short runs. I skied 24 days this season, harder, faster and gnarlier than ever before - couldn't have done it without the intensive exercise programme and the giant knee brace because of the legacy MCL damage. Physio thought I might be able to build enough muscle to supprt the MCL for sport but we've come to the conclusion that it'll never be strong enough so the brace is a permanent feature.
I have no idea whether I can lift weights with my ankle - my physio doesn't advocate it. My programme is all about squats, lunges and leg presses - now onto single leg which put a lot of strain on the muscles. Unles you do those sort of exercises I think it would be hard to get leg stregth back - I've got glutes of steel and my left leg is like a footballers! I do single leg squats on the TRX straps standing on the bosu ball, single leg hack series lunges, single leg McConnell wall squats, single leg Romanian deadlift, single leg presses (not very good at that yet - not much range at only 15kg), single leg heel lift on the leg press, side planks, crab walking with resistance band, sumo squats with 16kg weight, plus interval resistance training on the bike - plus stabilty work e.g. bridges on the gym ball. I never thought I'd be able to do this sort of exercise pre-injury never mind now - it's been a hard slog and I've had days when I could barely walk, but slowly but surely I've become stronger. If my knee feels stiff or a like it might struggle witht the exercise I take an ibuprofen and co-codamol cocktail in advance - as long as my knee doesn't swell then I'm not doing any damage (it doesn't swell - even when I fell off my bike on Saturday and landed heavily on my knee )
Do you think a different physio might be able to move you forward?
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update Time
Knee pretty good now, had a few lessons at the chillfactore to get me skiing differently so that i don't put as much stress on the knee. This works well, as i can do two hours at the dome hard skiing with no problem, however my coach 'let' me ski like i used to and it's taken 4 weeks for the knee to get back to being ok...!! lesson learned ? don't ski how i used to...followed by 27 holes of golf....
Still have slight issue with strength in certain muscles, cycling causes no problem, but trying to lift anything with my lower leg using the quads still not comfortable, i'm still of the opinion that the bracket needs to come out. still use Arnica when it starts to ache and if i stop using Glucose conjoitin i notice the difference after about 5 days....still not sure wether to book a ski trip for december ..
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