I'd rather mount it near the bottom of the pole for better capture, is there a better mount for this?
Thanks for all your help buddy
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George,
Simple answer is,it depends on the pole. The standard go pro mount (seat post) would need a little padding if the end of the pole ifs tapered. there are other options that you could use though.
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Right, I think I have my final shopping list made but still have a few questions
GoPro 3+ Black
Anti Fog inserts
Lens covers http://gopro.com/camera-accessories/protective-lens-covers
Chest mount
Helmet mount
Handlebar/seat post mount - For mounting to ski pole
Surfboard mounts for mounting to skis (Is this a good idea? I thought they may stick better than the flat and curved adhesive mounts)
Vented helmet strap mount - For mounting to ski boot (Unless using the surfboard adhesive mounts would be better?)
Camera tethers
WiFi remote mounting kit
Suction mount for mounting to car
Side mount
Memory card - (I know this needs to be Class 10 but how big will I need for a weeks skiing?)
and finally a case to transport it all in
Thanks!
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I thought the black comes with "1 Curved + 1 Flat Adhesive Mount", one of those would suit as a helmet mount wouldn't it?
What about a spare battery?
I can't see the "WiFi remote mounting kit " on the gopro website, what does that do??
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ansta1, thanks, so although you get the wifi remote with the black, you don't get any way of attaching it to your wrist, without forking out more £££??
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kitenski, When they originall came out the remotes came with a velro wrist strap, at some time they stopped this and now come separately if you buy a camera, or included if you by the remote/wifi combo kit.
TBH it's easy enough to make one yourself, or if you have an old ski-strap thingamugiggeee (you know the thing we use to strap the ski's together. they work. Alternatively you can, if your pole straps aren't too wide, thread one of those through it.
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and if hobby mounts hasn't got bored of us yet, I am sure there is an opportunity to source some 'non-genuine' remote straps from somewhere and start knocking them out for a few quid.
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cheers, wacky next question...
Would the gopro be ok as a stills camera by adding the LCD back? Reasoning being my waterproof/bomb proof sony has stopped working as did my contour, so in a bid to have less toys I was considering just replacing both cameras with a gopro.....
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kitenski wrote:
I'd recommend a spare battery and a stand alone charger.
So I can take two batteries out with me each day?
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yes and no, the sensor is certainly up to the job, but the fixed focal length and 'wide angle' can make things interesting, and you are limited in terms of settings when it comes down to it.
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ansta1, I have a "normal" pocket camera....
Seems the black can take video and photos at the same time, which could get some good shots amongst a lot of dross
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it certainly can, but in doing so it does restrict the capture settings for the video.
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If using a suction mount on your car windscreen, be careful about mounting it for long periods of time, and during weather changes.
Some guys in the US have cracked their windscreen when taking off the suction cup after track days
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I'm not sure the Vented Helmet Strap would fit round a ski boot? I know it just fits round my forearm with a jacket on and is just big enough.
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Good call on using the surfboard mounts instead though as they have a bigger surface area than the standard adhesive flat mount.
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I'm not sure the Vented Helmet Strap would fit round a ski boot? I know it just fits round my forearm with a jacket on and is just big enough.
Out of the box it doesnt fit around the calf section of the boot, but it can fit over the foot and under the instep (in the middle of the binding) but this position leaves it exposed to snow cover and this is worse on the 3 as they have a flat outer lens cover. With a few tweeks it can fit around the calf of most ski boots.
I will get around to uploading some "boot" mounted footage in thnext day or so.
I've removed the surfboard mounts from my final list due to looking through google and finding most attempts at ski mounting the camera failed. I think hemlet, chest, pole and possibly boot is quite enough
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This method uses the headstrap, looks simplier too!
George 3G, how wide is the ski at the point you want to mount the GoPro?
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I've just been watching youtube videos of ski boot mounted cameras and decided it's not worth the hassle, it makes for quite dizzy footage!
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I thought this angle was pretty cool, it's a close chase view. Not sure what the mount is. I'm guessing some sort of curved extension arm attached to the adhesive mount.
Has anybody mentioned that if you've got an I phone then you can control the gopro with an app so you don't need a separate remote control ?
I've got the hero 3 silver but I found that the wi-if was killing the battery along with the windchill and filming so I simply set the camera up to record as soon as you turned it on, which is easily done even with gloves on.
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cheers, wacky next question...
Would the gopro be ok as a stills camera by adding the LCD back? Reasoning being my waterproof/bomb proof sony has stopped working as did my contour, so in a bid to have less toys I was considering just replacing both cameras with a gopro.....
Can get some good shots, I suspect it's not very flexible though.
not quite Rob, at mount is one, or similar to this www.rotormount.com (or google rotormount) its basically a balanced arm on a bearing with the camera on one end and a counter weight. the other that means it stays as near to as possible in one dirction of shot.
As for using the iphone as a remote and viewfinder, yep really good, but suck the phone battery if yu use it for too long, plus the remote is waterproof and shockproof' the iphone isnt.
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whoops, no its not, it is just a static mount i think, it is just a long mount, either from the adhesive mount or from a differently mounted point. However this wont work for the less god like skiers, who will move their head a lot more. There are a couple of back pack solutions available that would give this above and behind the shoulder view. I will try and dig some out.
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Just ordered one of these for the quad!
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For those going "what?" a quick translation
Quad - quadcopter a r/c flight platform like a helicopter but generally easier to fly and more stable.
And the pic is of a 2 axis gimbal. These are used to keep the camera in the same orientation, so the platform leans left or back and the gimbal compensates.
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Thanks Andy
Little video of someone unboxing the same one and shows how it work, etc.
Battery Life - Much better
wifi speed - Much better
Video Image quality - Better (with a caveat see below)
form factor - significantly smaller and lighter.
Caveat - Okay hold on to your hats...
Gopro it seems have changed the way the optics (and possibly the data compression). What this means is that they have biased the camera it seems towards closer items and as such these are much much sharper. However there are a lot of moans amongst those people who use the gopro for arial footage or wide angle still work that they have done this at the expense of making the distant object slightly softer. There are plenty of heated discussions about if this was the correct way to go. I have to say for the type of use that the majority of gopros will get, this is not an issue in my view. A fair number of people have said they are returning them and going back to the standard black as across the field of focus (near to far) it is generally not as sharp, but for items closer it is much sharper.
It's not clear at this stage if this was completely intentional from a gopro perspective, whether there will be a software adjustment to help things or whether it is an actual fault.
On balance I get some of the negative comments, but for the me it's not a deal breaker as I don't fly the cameras and neither do I particularly use the still photo capture very often. I did intend to get out at the weekend, but the blacks and HD2's I have are out on loan. If I can find time I will run a test of all 4 models back to back.
It's a tough call,
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Interesting, thanks alot....
For an average user like me that would use it for skiing, biking, holidays I guess the better picture for closer items would be beneficial would it???
The battery life + improved wifi speed are two big pros for me....
That's very clever! How much would a setup like that cost (purely an academic question, as I can't see me skiing with a gimbal mounted on the front of my helmet!).
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It's not clear at this stage if this was completely intentional from a gopro perspective, whether there will be a software adjustment to help things or whether it is an actual fault.
My understanding is that the GoPro cameras have a fixed focus, and nothing in the software can alter the intrinsic properties. There are methods for sharpening out-of-focus blur, but these can often introduce their own artefacts, particularly if the out of focus parts of the image are at varying depths. Recently there's been talk of deblurring in commercial software, e.g Photoshop, but there are many limitations to the current state of the art in deblurring (whether caused by out of focus, lens distortions or motion) that will make it a difficult problem to solve in general. I'm currently writing a PhD thesis that covers some image deblurring, so hopefully I know something about it
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ArseCaptain wrote:
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It's not clear at this stage if this was completely intentional from a gopro perspective, whether there will be a software adjustment to help things or whether it is an actual fault.
My understanding is that the GoPro cameras have a fixed focus, and nothing in the software can alter the intrinsic properties. There are methods for sharpening out-of-focus blur, but these can often introduce their own artefacts, particularly if the out of focus parts of the image are at varying depths. Recently there's been talk of deblurring in commercial software, e.g Photoshop, but there are many limitations to the current state of the art in deblurring (whether caused by out of focus, lens distortions or motion) that will make it a difficult problem to solve in general. I'm currently writing a PhD thesis that covers some image deblurring, so hopefully I know something about it
Yes you are correct, if the image is out of focus (but we shan't discuss the issue of relative focus) there is only so much that can be done to to correct it, you can apply sharpening algorithms which can help with some things, but that brings a whole other set of potential issues. The question still remains is did they intentionally alter the area of focus to make the near field sharper but having the effect that the more distant areas actually look slightly out of focus (which is what the general consensus and also what the initial responses from Gopro suggest) or have they altered the in camera process which changes how the images look out of the camera.
Again it's still not definitive if this was completely intentional as, as far as I am aware at this time gopro have not made an official statement around the issue. What is clear is that a particular subset of gopro users (mainly those who fly R/C vehicles with the gopro) are not all happy. I for one don't see it as being an issue for the vast majority of users, any relative softness is going to be masked by the background movement.
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kitenski wrote:
Interesting, thanks alot....
For an average user like me that would use it for skiing, biking, holidays I guess the better picture for closer items would be beneficial would it???
The battery life + improved wifi speed are two big pros for me....
The simple answer is, it depends. If you want to shoot timelapses or landscapes with the still camera, i'd say not. Skiing, Biking I'd say yes.
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ansta1 wrote:
Now that is 2 axis, want to see a few more?
This one has some potential.
That's very clever! How much would a setup like that cost (purely an academic question, as I can't see me skiing with a gimbal mounted on the front of my helmet!).
The 2 axis is very cheap, the other one isn't, not sure of the price for that as it's still in prototype. And the one thing you have to consider with a gimbal setup is it will try to keep the camera level, so if you are pointing down a 45 degree slop, it will tilt the camera back by 45 degrees to compensate. (though you can usually adjust them to compensate for base angle).
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