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Saturday was just fabulous, though I was helping out rather than skiing snowHead

It stays cool all this week with a few snow showers around on Tuesday and Wednesday which may just reach Yad Moss from the east. Hopefully no significant loss by the weekend when some forums are predicting a cooler snowier trend. So it could still be good for next weekend and half term snowHead

At this rate I don't feel the need to go away on holiday. The skiing is only ever 5 days or less away Laughing
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a surprise dusting in Leeds this morning, hopefully some decent showers will hit Yad Moss, what chance of a Thurs/Fri opening this week Peter???
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Kitenski, according to the website they are hoping to run tomorrow, Tuesday. Too early to make a decision about Thursday/Friday though the long range models look good at the moment. It will also depend on getting our Engineer up there but he's just come off his skiing holiday so may be ready again to operate his own tow !

Check again tomorrow night and there may be an indication about running later in the week. We don't really need any more snow to operate, though new snow is always nice, Laughing
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There's always room for more snow - especially given the amount thats been pushed around recently.

If were still doing a proper winter all that hit the eastern side of the states should come this way - not that that's been the case for years but it would be really good if it did again. We'd keep going for months!
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oldagedpredator, yes, we usually get the remnants of east coast storms about two weeks later - given they've just had 60 cm, that should bode well for late feb. Sadly, we seem to be getting Siberian weather, today's a north easterly wind.
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It always was that way in the 80s bit of a frustrating lack of from in the last 15years or so from that weather pattern. Snow laden air from the west hitting dry air from the east - we couldn't possibly get two large powder dumps in one season, could we Very Happy
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North easterly winds are the best direction for Yad Moss. It blows the snow down and across the fences, eventually filling the bowl in. It seems to fill in more smoothly than from the south east, which creates big drifts across the tow track before covering the main run. South easterly is neverthess still an excellent direction with a rather bigger fetch and higher snow gathering area than other directions. Westerlies are the worst direction at Yad Moss. We go and ski at Raise on those days Laughing

A slightly stronger pattern than the one we have today delivered most of the snow before Christmas. The showers coming in off the North sea can be persistent and reach the high Pennines but rarely cross the Eden Valley.

The place that really gets dumped on in those conditions however is Wearhead. It seems to trap the north easterly showers and make them linger dropping their load in the same area for longer. Easterly winds are also the best direction for skiing at YM because they make the runs 'steeper' by pushing you down faster Laughing
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Long term it seems the next couple of weekends atleast are on the cards. I'm switching from backing meteogroup forecasts for Great Dun Fell to Netweather.tv for Nenthead. Purely based on that showing more chance of snow over the next 16 days. No logic just optamism!

Or we could all go to Harwood Puzzled, less walking!
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Was at Harwood on Saturday. Brilliant conditions able to ski all sorts of fresh lines in spring snow, a little less walking, no lift queues, very friendly bunch of guys up there. You do know you've had an upper body workout on the lift though. Sure to be on the pennines again this weekend, venue to be decided depending on conditions. It would be nice to get back to weardale though.
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I could do with some more weardale time - mainly in the gully. The yad moss chute back to the car park from the tow is fun but a little warn in places and you have to walk back up. It bit of fun at the end of the day though.
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I see the weekend is arriving again and that means....more skiing Laughing

The wind looks to be staying light once again though visibility may not always be the best. Some possibility of further snow on saturday night/Sunday which may make Saturday the better day conditions wise. Looks to be getting windier during half term but staying cold with further snow.

Webcam looks superb today with the bare patches now covered by yesterdays cosmetic dusting. there may also be some small drifts to push about.

http://csc.tayloredtechnology.com/ski/current.aspx

Who's coming skiing then ?
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I'll be up there somewhere, venue yet to be decided Very Happy
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Peter S, think I could be tempted for Saturday
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Yep, I'm in. Dun Fell long range is showing moderate snow on monday and then snow right the way out as far as it can see. Weekends 9, 10 and 11 on the cards? - I think we deserve it!
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oldagedpredator, listened to the yad moss hotline the other day and they said that although there was good cover, they weren't planning to open due to lack of skiers! Has the initial rush faded and are you still getting crowds at weekends?
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Kristof, as soon as the snow dissappears in the towns the big crowds stop skiing. Its the same in Scotland. However the weekends are still busy enough and we've been getting around a 100 skiers on Saturdays and Sundays since January, which is a comfortable number.

We carn't run everyday because of a lack of operators so we tend to run on weekends or midweek days whenever we can get a team together. The Plan is to run right through the half term next week but whether we do or not will depend on the wind, the roads and not breaking anything important.

Light wind is forecast for Saturday and Sunday so we hope to be operational both days. Always check the forecast and website the night before and ideally in the morning, if planning a long journey Laughing
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Apparently there was a very low turn out on Tuesday - 30ish people. Week day operations are down to 3-4 people, who also do weekends, albeit with the larger pool of us weekend volunteers. We're coming up to the 9th weekend of opening in a row and its a fairly major commitment form the week day guys to keep turning out. Everything else goes on hold but that can only happen so long. The plan is to open the whole next week subject to the usual weather / snow / operator availability - definative word is always the website. Its a tricky balance either commiting to set opening days and then getting low turn out if the weather is bad or just opening on the good days but that makes it harder for skiers and boarders to plan a trip. The cover is very good - the top webcam gives the best indication of this.

Numbers do drop off when there is less snow lower down - last weekend peak Q time on Sat was around 8mins down from 22mins at start of Jan. A lot of the day it was 2-3. Sunday there wasnt a Q, weather was much worse. Yesterday may have brought good numbers because it was clear and sunny but today might not as the cloud is down again. Its just balancing it all out. Our main tow engineer has also spent most of the last 4 months at Yad Moss - there was a good 6 weeks before the snow came when the tow line was being replaced.

Ultimately there are a lot of people who come to the pennines to ski now who dont realise how long winter can last up here given the right conditions - this is more typical of how it used to be. A bit of heavy snow in the lowlands and pennine numbers will rise again but for now they are comfortable at weekends.
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More snow again last night. Shocked Hopefully Yad Moss should be open ritght through to the weekend. Check the website first though.

http://csc.tayloredtechnology.com/ski/current.aspx

http://www.winterhighland.info/publicreports/index.php?50,1976
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Right, no pics for a while as nothing much had changed - we fancied a bit more snow, we got it. Refresh of the base always welcome, mucks up the depth calcs a bit but. All the fences area about 1.1m high so you can work it out.

Half term, weather looking good - treat yourself and bunk off work.

This was Sat 13th and its snowed again since then, several times.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/onemanmows/sets/72157623324315333/show/
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Seems I forgot to upload these, so a spot of time travel - back two weeks before the current snows and this was keeping us all entertained.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/onemanmows/sets/72157623338036611/
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Today's report now on winterhighland with some pics. Rest on flickr some time next week
http://www.winterhighland.info/publicreports/index.php?50,2015

General summary, good area coverage with 1-2" of powder overnight. Coverage in acres. 11:30 rule likely to be inplay for day tickets over weekend - check the website.

Weardale and Allenheads still closed to day members.

Harwood open to day members (website says tow open from 10:30) - coverage and conditions same as Yad Moss. Latest pics (17th Feb 2010) from Harwoodski on their website.
http://www.harwoodski.webs.com/
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Weather looking superb here, so sod the work, I'm going skiing Cool
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Had a brilliant day at Yad Moss yesterday, was only planning on skiing the morning, but actually dragged myself of the hill gone 4pm. If anyone is thinking of going, don't think, just go, conditions are very good.
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oldagedpredator, Peter S,

Do you know if Yad Moss or Weardale are going to be open tomorrow?

It's half 8 and the answerphone and websites haven't been updated since Sunday.

Was looking at going up, as the forecast dosen't look to good until next week http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/weather/united_kingdom/city_weather/city/3227/great-dun-fell.html?cityID=3227


Weardale answerphone updated at 21:00 - Weardale is opening tomorrow, Tuesday from 10:30.
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rich.p, Don't forget (AFAIK) these are all areas run by volunteers who presumably have 'real' jobs too. It's not surprising it sometimes takes a day or two to update. Madeye-Smiley
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Srobbo, yes what a great weekend. Had Friday off as well so three straight skiing days in a row. Back to work for a rest Laughing

Conditions really have been amazing especially when you remember that England isn't highly regarded for its alpine skiing facilities. It was therefore slightly surreal to be standing in the lift queue at Yad Moss on Sunday listening to French being spoken Shocked

Perhaps the French are taking advantage of easyjet flights from Geneva to Newcastle, the gateway airport to the Pennines snowHead
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Perhaps the French are taking advantage of easyjet flights from Geneva to Newcastle, the gateway airport to the Pennines


Like it!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Did no-one ask the French speakers how come they were there? We've spoken to Poles at both Yad Moss and Weardale - so that must be the Newcastle - Krakow easyjet link! Toofy Grin
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Update from the Yad Moss web site

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1st March - Forecast for Tuesday is for wall to wall sunshine. Tow will operate from 10.30. Dont forget the sunscreen!


Guess that makes it an easy choice on what to do tomorrow, I'm going skiing Very Happy
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Weardale Report - Sat. 27.2.10 (My ninth Pennines ski day of the winter):

Access road clear, slight snow in places.
About 10cm of fresh, heavy snow.
No queues and seemingly no more than about 30 people on the slopes.
No wind.
Visibility generally poor (fog) but occasionally clearing lower down.
Not much of a base in places.
Unlimited fresh tracks off piste - brilliant!
Snow wet lower down by mid afternoon.

Verdict: Great fun Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Forecast for (Yad Moss) Tuesday is for wall to wall sunshine

And the webcam is showing more fresh snow today!! Have a good 'un - while I'm at work Sad
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Radar is showing an area of heavy snow over YM earlier this morning. Temeprature has now dropped back below -5.
That means powder snowHead

Remind me then why I am going out to Zermatt where there is only half the depth of snow, poor weather and a thousand times more expensive per day Puzzled
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Brian,

Point made.

I'll shut up snowHead
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Light covering of snow in Penrith, so hopefully a reasonable amount has fallen higher up Smile

And it's a crystal clear day,no wind,blue sky,sun, sorry to anyone who is working, hard luck!
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Had to suffer the webcam update - just in time for lunch - from snow report for Yad Moss we'll have to call this one Champagne Tuesday. Powder on Powder on Powder on base no wonder they had it down as one of the best days ever. Fences, I see no fences!
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Wow, what a day!





Massive thanks to all the volunteers who keep everything running,
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Weardale was good today.

Thanks to all who arranged for the snow to settle on the moor, but not on the roads. No sign of the ruts !

I'd swear they must have snow cannons hidden away somewhere.

French being spoken at Yad Moss ? possibly Canadians looking for decent conditions that week ?
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French being spoken at Yad Moss ?

Its very cosmopolitan you know. Multilingual in French, Polish, Cumbrian, Geordie, Yorkshire, Lancsahire, Lowland Scots.......we need one of those perfume type signs, along the lines of

......MEGEVE.......ZERMATT.......CORTINA D'AMPEZZO......YAD MOSS

Laughing
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Peter S,

Dunno if it's that cosmopolitan over the other side. I knew a chap from Edmondbyers who claimed he found the Geordie accent hard to understand. I think he was a Weardale regular, but wouldn't go to Yad Moss "Fower wor hovvent had th'nocculayshuns".
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Someones been busy with the aftermath of Champagne Tuesday - Yad Moss Enclosure Run at five blade corduroy motorway width.



Pssst, might just snow a bit more on this before the end of the week Laughing
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