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The All New 16/17 Weather Outlook Thread

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Rain/sleet below 1500m at lunchtime around Grenoble. The FL has dropped from over 2000m to about 1700 m currently.

There still a temperature inversion with very heavy pollution in the valleys. Speed restrictions are still in place - 70 kmh after the toolbooths around Grenoble (instead of 130km/h / 110 km/h). The rain should improve things tomorrow.
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bpirkle wrote:
If the predicted snow arrives on 11 Feb then that might well turn in to another transfer day hell .. but it's still FI at this point. Right?

I'm driving to Sallanches on Friday the 10th (w winter tyres, chains, a bag of cat litter and a shovel ) so hoping for snow on the hills but clear, dry motorways.


Dumb Q im sure...

"FI"?

Future Indication? Is the best i can do. Puzzled
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Fantasy Island .. too far out for any real confidence.
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I'm driving to Sallanches on Friday the 10th (w winter tyres, chains, a bag of cat litter and a shovel )

Would I be right in assuming the cat litter is to be used as some sort of traction aid rather than for when you are stuck in a jam with an urgent need to defecate? Puzzled

(Though of the many travel tips and tricks I've read on here I've not yet seen cat litter mentioned...for either purpose Madeye-Smiley )
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Weathercam wrote:
@Skiwi 55, oooohhh that's an interesting question - think I'd head for La Grave with the current forecast - fly to Lyon, or Grenoble and stay at friends hotel http://hotel-edelweiss.com/ and they could organise a guide for you or even contact Pelle at Skiers Lodge.


Cheers for the steer Weathercam - La Grave does indeed look tasty Madeye-Smiley the next few days are going to feel like an episode from a popular Discovery Channel series - will need to see what Avis rates are on Tornado Intercept Vehicles snowHead
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Yeah, I read somewhere that it's useful to add traction on ice and a bag of the generic stuff at Sainsburys is like £1.50 so I figured why not. Plenty of room in the back of the truck. Never tried it though.
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I use cheap cat litter on my paths at home, it works well.
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Started snowing in Alpe d'Huez, nothing was forecast this morning!
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Peak-Winter and the Alps are continuing to have a poor season.

Most resorts up to ~1800m, like Val d'Isere and Zermatt, looking very brown / green in the valley and rocky on the mountain.

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But the point, @Whitegold, is that many, many places have very good skiing available due to exceptional grooming and snow making...

In the last couple of weeks I have had very good skiing around Monterosa (100% open), Mürren and Avoriaz/Swiss PdS. I hear Chamonix valley is very good. Friends had two exceptional days in Les Contamines at the weekend.

So what if the mountains themselves are not as white as is typical... rolling eyes
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Salzburgerland is experiencing a top notch season. One of (if not a record?) the coldest January's on record and two weeks of nearly daily snow helped alot too. Most of Austria snow covered at village level since 3rd of January. Only the small area south of the alpine ridge is struggling.

Many parts of the Pyrenees are having a good one too.
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@Whitegold, you are such a misery guts on this thread, every post you seem to make is looking on the glass half empty side of life! Thank you under a new name for your far more constructive comments.
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@Whitegold, you are such a misery guts on this thread, every post you seem to make is looking on the glass half empty side of life! Thank you under a new name for your far more constructive comments.
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I'm off to Saint Gervais on Wednesday for a long weekend. There will still be snow to ski on. There may even be fresh snow on the tops. And if the FL stays low enough there could well be snow all the way from Le Bettex (1400m) and above. Either way, I won't be miserable as I will be in the mountains, on skis or my snowboard (can't decide which to take!) and enjoying a beer at the end of the day. Happy days!
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It was pretty white in Val D'Isere this morning on all the bits that mattered!

(Of course some people from South Uist may wish to countermand this wink )
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Whitegold wrote:
Peak-Winter and the Alps are continuing to have a poor season.

Most resorts up to ~1800m, like Val d'Isere and Zermatt, looking very brown / green in the valley and rocky on the mountain.


That's rubbish. Two weeks ago, most cars needed snow chains to get into Val d'Isere. I drove there again on Friday evening and there was snow on the side of the road for most of the journey from Geneva.

The snow at very low levels melted this weekend, but that is normal for any winter. The pistes, on the other hand, have full deep cover.

Why do you make these things up?
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Currently light snow, not rain as forecast falling in Verbier. Hoping for a piste refresh if nothing else tomorrow Very Happy
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Whitegold, how dare he speak the truth! I see your true factual reports have also upset the chimps. Just when I was feeling all alone and taking crap on this forum from the "French ski industry beneficiaries" it's a breath of fresh air to see your truthful, accurate comments. Keep up the good work!
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@Whitegold, @poppyhill, I sense a match made in heaven Very Happy
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poppyhill Not you again I had enough of your negativity at the weekend , don't bother trying to convince me otherwise , i just don't want to hear such argumentative voices
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Certainly one of the two coldest Januaries in the last 30 years in Austria. It'll come down to the last two days as to the final result. Preliminary figures are -3.0C below average for the month and 35% sunnier. Salzburgerland was the snowiest region and had 50% more snow than usual (though that was in the back of an exceptionally dry December), however the south was much drier than usual.

http://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/klima/news/einer-der-zwei-kaeltesten-jaenner-monate-seit-30-jahren
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GFS's view of snowfall out to Monday week.



Light snow in Vienna at moment.
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poppyhill Not you again I had enough of your negativity at the weekend , don't bother trying to convince me otherwise , i just don't want to hear such argumentative voices


Any of these could help with that problem .... (P.S they are not ski resorts)
1. Aripiprazole
2. Clozapine
3. Olanzapine
4. Quetiapine
5. Risperidone
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Poppyhill = Whitegold.
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ulmerhutte wrote:
Poppyhill = Whitegold.



Nah - she's the demon lovechild of Stanton and Whitegold snowHead snowHead snowHead
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Rain forecast to 1900 meters tomorrow (how high is Val d'Isere?) by the Arpege model with a big weather system on Friday which should bring a lot of snow at altitude - the FL is unsure, it is not going to be that low but it could be the end of the season for some low lying ski areas if it is too high.
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jonathancarty wrote:
For those that missed it, or if you fancy reliving it:

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=115242


One of the best threads on snowheads.
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ulmerhutte wrote:
Poppyhill = Whitegold.


Same sad individual I reckon. Not getting as many responses as normal from their usual nonsense so a second, more aggressive character, suddenly appears
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there's a degree of irony that the webcam photo embedded above is a live feed and is now showing freshly settled snow in the square in Zermatt Very Happy
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bigtuboflard wrote:
there's a degree of irony that the webcam photo embedded above is a live feed and is now showing freshly settled snow in the square in Zermatt Very Happy


The original webcam photo had snow on the hillsides anyway. I couldn't see any part of the hillside that was brown/green so didnt really understand why the image was posted with the associated comment??

Meanwhile, looks like its snowing currently across Switzerland/Western Austria/parts of the Northern Frence alps.
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jimmybog wrote:
Meanwhile, looks like its snowing currently across Switzerland/Western Austria/parts of the Northern Frence alps.
Light snow all afternoon in Les Arcs, but just a dusting so far.
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@Ajn12345,
Ignore whitegold, its easier. There is loads of good skiing about, he gets very tedious with his constant miserable posts.

Very Happy
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@sparkzter, thank you, mostly I just pay attention to Noza's highly informative posts (not that I entirely understand the charts but I get the gist). Noza seems to always keep his head whilst all around lose theirs, which is surely a thing to admire. I have looked back over the thread and Whitegold is a serial offender on the misery front! I'm off to the Monte Rosa area for half term, but happy on piste so it all should be fine for us, good piste skiing, great food, great company and the wonderful alpine scenery, life doesn't get much better!
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I'm in Val D'Isere (as of yesterday) & the pistes are in excellent condition. Very little ice even on the resort runs. All this doom mongering is a bit ridic. If you're an off piste demon then I can understand the frustration but while the resort isn't knee deep in snow it's also far from brown. In my skiing career I would put this season in Val in the top half of all my trips. There's no sheet ice or (my least favourite) brown slush. I have zero skin in this game. Just a one week a year skier.

I love this thread. I am a perennial lurker & hugely appreciate all the weather experts. Keep posting guys! Some of us really appreciate it.
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Snow forecast, Verbier website, and hotel forecast show rain. Needless to say it's still snowing, only 1cm plus but sticking
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I find the excellent forecasting on this forum as important as the invaluable situation reports. However much content is diluted with the invalid opinions of the "one week per season" tourists. Agreed this is the bulk of the market, but should the tail wag the dog?
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@poppyhill, You're not Dutch by any chance are you Laughing
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poppyhill wrote:
I find the excellent forecasting on this forum as important as the invaluable situation reports. However much content is diluted with the invalid opinions of the "one week per season" tourists. Agreed this is the bulk of the market, but should the tail wag the dog?


How many weeks do you need to do before your opinions ( eyesight) are / ( is) valid?
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WRF Snowfall Outlook Next 4 Days.


Out to next Monday Night, EC Snowfall Outlook.

It is definitely showing signs of a snowmaggedon event. Know where the best powder spot is and ski!
GFS and EPS are showing signs of future events beyond the next week, 8-10 Feb looking really great on GFS and okay on EPS. There's also 13-14 Feb to watch out for, looks okay for some snow ATM.

Looks like it is starting to snow across the Alps. Enjoy the snow
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There's also 13-14 Feb to watch out for, looks okay for some snow ATM.

That would be a nice birthday present for me.......
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