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What is the current situation regarding travel to Austria

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Just purchased a box of the below, each mask is individually marked as FFP2, they also do them in a white colour

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnitex-FFP2-Black-Face-Mask/dp/B094PHG3KV?tag=amz07b-21
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I am a bit dubious about buying them in the UK to take with me incase they dont meet the austrians standards.
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I'm planning on heading out with a couple then stocking up once I'm out there. Will be out for three weeks so don't want to get the wrong ones.
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@Mr.Egg, why would they not meet Austrian standards? Austria is very straightforward with operation of the rules, if it is a marked FFP2 mask it is fine.
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...and mine from amazon are made in germany
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The main reason for not buying them in advance is that you are probably paying more than you need to, if they are over about 50p each, but you will need at least one for the flight. After that you can pick some up in a supermarket, where they are at a fixed price of 59 cents.

Anything that says FFP2 on the front is fine, but they tend to have a particular shape that is easy to recognise anyway, and that is all anyone will be checking for.
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THe masks sold in austria...
do they tend to have ear loops or straps around the head?

@Mr.Egg, my wife and I have amassed a collection of Austrian masks, having lived in Saalbach for nearly two years now. They all have ear loops (so you will need your lobes).
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Just found this link for hospital bed occupancy in Austria. Currently 220 ICU beds occupied by COVID-19 positive patients.

As I understand it, Level 2 is hit 7 days after reaching 300 ICU bed COVID occupancy, or a 36% increase over current occupancy levels.

https://covid19-dashboard.ages.at/dashboard_Hosp.html
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@phillc, it is a percentage of the nationally available ICU beds, Level 1 = 10%, Level 2 = 15%. Level 3 = 20% etc. Currently it is Level 1 but Vienna & Salzburg have already implemented some of the Level 2 precautions. Apparently the health Minister said that he expects level 2 to be reached "soon".
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Wonder if anyone can help, not been following SH for a few months, and did a quick search but couldn’t find anything so here goes….

We are keen to do a self drive long weekend in St Anton early December largely to collect all our ski kit, still sat in a friends garage since we we left in a hurry March 2020. Plan on getting a couple of days skiing (or hiking in if conditions do not allow skiing) and travel overnight ferry Hull/ Rotterdam and back via Eurotunnel but looking at UK Gov website its unclear if we can travel with just double jabs through Europe or whether we will have to do tests etc? Can anyone offer advice?

On return to UK I see that we can take a overpriced private LF test rather than using a kit we own already but regards outward is it still a load of hassle? We’ve binned most of the season and will likely go ski touring end March but need to do a quick dash out to rescue and service our kit. TIA for any guidance, and once apologies if this has been covered a million times, I just couldn’t find it.
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@phillc, it is a percentage of the nationally available ICU beds, Level 1 = 10%, Level 2 = 15%. Level 3 = 20% etc. Currently it is Level 1 but Vienna & Salzburg have already implemented some of the Level 2 precautions. Apparently the health Minister said that he expects level 2 to be reached "soon".


Right. Which what I believe that link above shows. 15% of national ICU capacity is 300 beds, if I understand correctly.

The table at the bottom of that page shows the occupancy level since October 12th to vary between 218 - 220 beds, which looks pretty static.
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i realise that this thread is for Austria but i've just returned from a trip to germany and i can confirm that it was completely smooth and painless.

at the airport it was simply a matter of completing passenger locator forms in advance and showing a double jabbed certificate at the passport counter.

out and about in town it varied from "are you vaccinated?" - yes, to scanning barcodes and showing ID to confirm its really you. but in all instances it all worked and was pretty seamless and no one had an issue that it was an NHS barcode and not a EU one. No tests required at anytime as we were double jabbed.

now we are back its a single PCR test on day 2 and that's it.

As for the FFP2 masks...yes they are mandatory and yes it was strongly enforced, security guards in shops were stopping people entering until they had put masks on, even if they were just below your nose haha!!
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@Markymark29, If you are fully vaccinated you should not have any real issues beyond filling in paperwork. Not sure using the Hull / Rotterdam ferry is a good idea, there were a lot of issues with that a couple of months back, the Dutch government did not seem keen on visitors from the UK. I know a number of people headed to Folkstone / Dover as they gave up on the long ferry crossing but maybe thats no longer true.

Generally all you need is your vaccine certificate though some countries, Italy and I believe Holland want a pre arrival test too for those who have been in the UK. Once you have entered Schengen it is very unlikely that anyone will be interested in making checks while driving through. Travel is not a big issue at the moment, we have been sending employees all over, last week we had people in Bremen, Athens & Budapest. A UK client had business trips from London to Geneva, Copenhagen & Athens with no issues at all (beside the issues around lots of flying).

What is creeping in is more and more is checks before entering restaurants, bars etc. Up to now most of the checks have been fairly nominal, a quick wave of your phone or piece of paper if that. However some countries (Switzerland, France & Italy for instance) are now being stricter and insisting on scanning QR codes. In some case this causes issues as the NHS certificate is not generally compatible with the EU one. Austria currently seems happy with the NHS certificate, who knows if that will be the case in a few weeks time.
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Update from tourist board


http://youtube.com/v/p5cYQHXV0O8
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@Bob, good to see
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@Markymark29, I don’t think you will need to bin off most of this season it all sounds very positive.
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@Markymark29, print a couple of copies of your full NHS vaccine certificates. That’s all. Getting out of the UK is very easy, it’s getting back in that’s a PITA, but at least the testing costs have come down and the forms will make more sense as a resident than they do as a non-resident. I don’t think there’s any reason to bin the season, but booking late or flexibly may not be the worst idea.

Give us a shout if you do make it out though, it would be good to see you Cool
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Interesting thread. I've been all over this and have been a bit concerned. I have rented an apartment in St Anton for the whole season - intend flipping to and fro to UK via Innsbrukke airport/Bristol - but initial trip is a drive via Eurotunnel - through France, Germany to Austria. Double vax'ed etc. But a little nervous. But I have all the paperwork etc. Any advice very welcome?

Chris
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@chrisjshort, print your paperwork (it’s faster at the border). Then chill out Cool
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Thanks! I think the last year and a half has taken some wind out of my sail! Appreciate the advice.
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chrisjshort wrote:
Interesting thread. I've been all over this and have been a bit concerned. I have rented an apartment in St Anton for the whole season - intend flipping to and fro to UK via Innsbrukke airport/Bristol - but initial trip is a drive via Eurotunnel - through France, Germany to Austria. Double vax'ed etc. But a little nervous. But I have all the paperwork etc. Any advice very welcome?

Chris


EJ cancelled my INN flight from BRS
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@chrisjshort, @Markymark29, we drove out via the tunnel mid September, We are vaccinated and had no issues at all. Had to upload a negative pcr test result onto the tunnel booking but that was it. Coming back we had to upload a negative pcr test which we took at our hotel (this is now not required) and also put in the reference number of the 2 day test which is required on return. No problems whatsoever through France, Germany and into Austria . Whilst out there some restaurants stricter than others regarding checking your status but if you have the Covid pass on your phone no issues at all. Ffp2 masks definitely required on the lifts, this was strictly adhered to, we saw plenty of folk refused access and sent on there way to purchase the correct items. Glad we made the effort, had a great week. No other brits at all though, our hotel had none at all this season
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@chrisjshort, you should have no issue with the Covid stuff as long as you are fully vaccinated. Do watch the 90 day thing though. Have heard reports that the border people in Munich were being very picky if UK passport holders had not got their outbound stamp when leaving. I suspect the Austrians will be equally picky.
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Chris_n wrote:
@Mr.Egg, why would they not meet Austrian standards? Austria is very straightforward with operation of the rules, if it is a marked FFP2 mask it is fine.


Im sure I will fall foul of some jobsworth because the stamp is the wrong direction or blurry, etc.
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Depressingly when I spoke to an Austrian girl today she says she’s given up hope of going back home to see her family at Christmas because she’s sure Austria will be closed to Brits. I can’t face cancelling ANOTHER ski holiday (we’re booked for Christmas)
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@bambionskiis, given what has happened over the past 18 months it is very easy to get worried it is all going to go wrong. The view from central Europe of Boris' Kingdom is not a positive one, we know what happened after his promises of a "normal" Christmas last year! However there is currently nothing to suggest that fully vaccinated people will not be welcome. It might be that it becomes impossible for UK based teenagers who have not been able to get "fully" vaccinated, which would upset a good few (including yourself I guess), though that will be more down to the number of people in Austrian hospitals than whatever is going on in the UK. Predictions about this this have a habit of being proved wrong but I think your friend will be fine for her trip to see her family this Christmas. The Austrian tourist industry is determined to welcome as many guests as possible and seems to have the government on board with that aim.


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bambionskiis wrote:
Depressingly when I spoke to an Austrian girl today she says she’s given up hope of going back home to see her family at Christmas because she’s sure Austria will be closed to Brits. I can’t face cancelling ANOTHER ski holiday (we’re booked for Christmas)


All the signs are looking really good, both in the UK and Austria. I think it going to be fine, and I'm sending positive vibes out to the Snow Gods.

So I'm sure you're going to have a great Christmas ski trip, and I wish you a great holiday (and a very Merry Christmas, if it's not too early for that...) snowHead
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johnE wrote:
I know this is a bit premature with the full list of countries where travel is to be allowed into England about to be published. The BBC has been good at publishing details about travel to other countries but seems to have forgotten about Austria. We are planning to go to the Dolomites later this summer and one potential route is to drive through Austria. The last I read was that they were demanding `14 days quarentine on arrival or take a fairly expensive 3 hour test. Does this still apply?


Once in Austria medical grade masks are required in public transport including ski lifts and in supermarkets. 'FFP2 masks are required for everyone on public transport, in cable cars, and essential businesses such as supermarkets, chemists, petrol stations, banks. FFP2 masks required in all shops and museums for those that are not vaccinated or have recovered from COVID'
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That’s really positive feedback; thank you. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet then.
@munich_irish, glad to hear the tourist board is so onboard and also that their government are listening.
@Poogle, our youngest is 17 and will be having his jab shortly. He also caught COVID at the end of august (on his birthday Sad ) so I think he should be fine.
@Oceanfalls, my Austrian friend had advised me of the need for ffp2 grade masks so we have already bought them. I know we’re all vaccinated but it seems sensible. We want the protection also, especially on the flight.
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Depressingly when I spoke to an Austrian girl today she says she’s given up hope of going back home to see her family at Christmas because she’s sure Austria will be closed to Brits. I can’t face cancelling ANOTHER ski holiday (we’re booked for Christmas)


If she is Austrian, I thought citizens could return when brits couldn't?

being vaccinated is the only answer the world currently has.
Not sure what locking down is going to achieve. Just need people to be follow the sensible restrictions & minimize risk.
The evidence of a stagnant economy is showing with the prices rises across the boards, as companies claw back as much loss revenue as they can.


Austria case rate per 1m people is rising. UK has started to level off.
one is up over 50% on week on week trends, the other 3%
Both have death rates up 9% week on week 9 per 1/mil & 14 per 1/m

Governments won't admit that is an acceptable trade off to not close the economy.
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@bambionskiis, just to be clear FFP2 masks are required in cable cars and supermarkets etc regardless of vaccine status.
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@bambionskiis, just to be clear FFP2 masks are required in cable cars and supermarkets etc regardless of vaccine status.


I assume chairs don’t count as cable cars? However I’m going to Obergurgl where half the lifts are gondolas including a new one this year.
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@buchanan101, depends whether they have a cover or not, cover = enclosed.
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@buchanan101, depends whether they have a cover or not, cover = enclosed.


That’s most chairs these days then. All but the beginner’s one at Obergurgl.
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@Markymark29, As @munich_irish, has mentioned there have been challenges, the way I understand the rules, the 12 hour transit doesn’t apply if you arrive by ferry, everyone over 12 will need to be double vaccinated and you will need a negative covid test to enter.

We are outside the EU and (very)high risk

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/checklist-entry/from-outside-the-eu

Transit rules
https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/checklist-transit-or-short-stay
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Back to Austria and just on here to check on latest travel and vaccination prrof required as going to Austria for work next week. Direct flight to Vienna then train to Graz.

The guidance on the Austria.info website doesn't list UK/England or GB under safe or otherwise countries.
Is it a case of NHS covid certificate plus FFp2 masks for train journey and airports?
Or am I missing something?
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@MHskier, full entry requirements here https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/austrian-embassy-london/travelling-to-austria/coronavirus-covid-19-and-travel-abroad/

Yes FP2 mask on all public transport, including chairlifts with a cover and supermarkets

Take extra printouts of your vaccination, use the NHS App to get the travel one emailed to you.
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@MHskier, UK is included in the travelling from other countries section. Proof of vaccine either in German or English and FFP2 mask are all you need. Take paper copies of proof of vaccine as it is usually quicker at check in.
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@Chris_n, just to clarify, I applied for an nhs COVID vaccination letter on their website and it was posted to me. It has the batch numbers and dates etc. is that what you’re referring to when you say paper copies? Cheers
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@Chris_n, just to clarify, I applied for an nhs COVID vaccination letter on their website and it was posted to me. It has the batch numbers and dates etc. is that what you’re referring to when you say paper copies? Cheers
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