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The All New 19/20 Weather Outlook Thread

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@Whitegold, Yeah, you picked a winner this year alright Laughing
I'd sooner go to Scotland than Bansko even if it were to ski on rocks.
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Northeast US due a big puke, up to 2ft.

Killington in the line of fire on Thurs.

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Whitegold wrote:
Glencoe is reporting 450cm at the summit.

Scotland is (finally) worth a trip for the Brits.

Bulgaria continues to have a nitemare season.

Snow in the valley at Bansko has all but disappeared.

ive got a pal doing a winter mountain leader course, intel on the ground is skiing mega at the min up there
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An update from SLF.

“ Observed weather on Wednesday, 26.02.2020

Nocturnal skies in the southern and the eastern regions were partially clear, in the other regions of Switzerland there was snowfall. During the daytime there was persistent snowfall in the northern regions, in the eastern regions showerlike precipitation accompanied by bright intervals. The snowfall level descended swiftly from approximately 1000 m down to low lying areas during the night. In the southern regions it remained mostly dry and quite sunny.

Fresh snow

Above 1400 m:

and furthermost western parts of Lower Valais, northern Alpine Ridge west of Blüemlisalp, Vaud Alps, Fribourg Alps, Glarus Alps, St. Gallen Alps: 25 to 40 cm;

Jura region, remaining parts of the northern flank of the Alps, Gotthard region, remaining parts of the Valais not including Simplon regions and Binntal, northern Grisons: 15 to 25 cm;

in the other regions of Switzerland, less; or else it remained dry.

Temperature

At midday at 2000 m, -8 °C in the northern regions and -6 °C in the southern regions.

Wind

Winds were westerly, subsequently shifting to northwesterly,
initially blowing at strong velocity only in the western regions and at high altitudes in general, strengthening in all regions during the course of the day.

Weather forecast through Thursday, 27.02.2020

During the nighttime hours in the northern regions, there will frequently be snowfall. Precipitation will come to an end from the west during the latter part of the night. Following a brief interim in precipitation, including some bright intervals, snowfall will again set in from the west during the morning. The snowfall level will ascend during the course of the day from the west to approximately 1400 m; in inneralpine regions the snowfall level will remain lower.

Fresh snow

Between Wednesday afternoon and Thursday afternoon above 1400 m:

Lower Valais, northern Alpine Ridge west of the Tödi: 20 to 40 cm;

Jura region, remaining parts of the northern flank of the Alps, remaining parts of Gotthard region, Prättigau: 15 to 25 cm;

in the other regions of Switzerland, 5 to 15 cm over widespread areas;

in the furthermost southern regions it will remain dry.

Temperature

Rapidly ascending temperatures during the course of the day from the northwest; rising by midday to -2 °C at 2000 m in the northwestern regions, to -8 °C in the southeastern regions.

Wind

Winds will shift from northwesterly to southwesterly,
and be blowing at storm strength on the northern flank of the Alps and in general at high altitudes; in other regions at moderate strength;
in the Alpine valleys of the north, increasingly strong foehn wind during the course of the afternoon.

Outlook through Saturday, 29.02.2020

Friday

The snowfall is expected to end during the course of Thursday night. In the northern regions, 10 to 30 cm of fresh snow is anticipated over widespread areas. The snowfall level will once again descend down to low lying areas. In the northern regions it will subsequently be partly sunny, in the southern regions predominantly so, and it will become significantly milder. Winds during the nighttime hours will be blowing initially at strong to storm strength, subsequently at predominantly moderate strength, from northwesterly directions. The avalanche danger levels in outlying terrain away from secured ski runs will remain critical over widespread areas.

Saturday

On Saturday it will be partly sunny. During the afternoon in the western regions, light precipitation will once again set in. The snowfall level will lie at approximately 1400 m. A strong to storm-strength southwesterly wind will be blowing. The avalanche situation will remain critical in the regions where snowfall has been heaviest in outlying terrain away from secured ski runs.“


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Winds are going to be swinging round quite a bit.



Could see gusts between 130-150kmh at times at altitude over the next few days.
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ECM continues to suggest significant snow south of the main ridge early next week. Doesnt seem to me that it will be a retour d'est more that the main centres of precipitation will be north of the low as it tracks across northern Italy rather than swinging all the way round back east. If it happens along these lines it should bring a decent fall to the Dolomites and Kärnten. GFS is far less keen on the significant precipitation.

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@munich_irish, what sort of freezing level for the Dolomites region though? GFS / GEM going for quite high rain limits (>1500m).
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@denfinella, There is a difference between the latest ECM and GFS runs for early next week. ECM suggests significant snowfall for pretty much the entire Italian alps Monday / Tuesday whereas GFS suggests a lot less. Both models suggest the mild conditions south of the alps will continue but GFS suggests getting cooler from early next week. There is an animation of the ECM forecast here https://wxcharts.com/gifs/Tpbgy01wx4.gif (hope it works)
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Up to 80cm of fresh snow in the Mont Blanc/Tarentaise/Beaufortain areas but figures dropping off in the south of the Savoie and Isere (10-20cm only). Very strong/storm force westerly winds and HIGH avalanche risk.
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More snow you say? (perhaps with some storm strength winds?) But of course!

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And halt please, after this snowfall, for 1 week only. My wife has(and I), have seemingly skied in nothing but whiteouts the last 2 years. A bit on sunny piste cruising is called for.
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Looks like small signs of “a resuming services normal “ dry and warming towards the end of next week .
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twoodwar wrote:
And halt please, after this snowfall, for 1 week only. My wife has(and I), have seemingly skied in nothing but whiteouts the last 2 years. A bit on sunny piste cruising is called for.


Ignore him- My wife and I have skied nothing but sun and hard pistes the last few years- keep snow snow snowing Toofy Grin Toofy Grin Toofy Grin snowHead
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@SkiG, we should ski the same resort each year. That would fix it! rolling eyes
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I'm off to Verbier on the 4th. Keep it coming!
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Chucking it down in Cham. About 5cms/hour. Snowblower may have to be employed.
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Chucking it down in Cham. About 5cms/hour. Snowblower may have to be employed.

Can you blow it towards the east, please? There's not much going on at all here.
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Chucking it down in Cham. About 5cms/hour. Snowblower may have to be employed.

Can you blow it towards the east, please? There's not much going on at all here.


Beat me to it. The Cham town centre webcam looks awesome.

https://www.chamonix.net/english/webcams/chamonix-town

Please please drift over to Austria Sad
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Looks like it's made it's way as far as the Zillertall....


https://www.bergfex.com/mayrhofen/webcams/c1454/
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It is actually snowing a bit here now, but it's coming in sideways Confused
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Seems to be lots of conflicting forecasts for Meribel for the next 5 days, anything from a light top up to days of heavy snow from tomorrow on
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@twoodwar, sounds like a plan Laughing Laughing
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Zermatt Bahnhofplatz covered. They clear this faster than anywhere, so a good sign for todays fall.
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Quite heavy snow in Frankfurt at the moment. I am trying to fly home and our pilot aborted the takeoff after taking a look at the runway. I would say it’s slushy...


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Good to see Cham valley white again.
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Säntis so far top of the league with gusts up to 167.8kmh.
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Säntis so far top of the league with gusts up to 167.8kmh.
wowsers Shocked
Wind effect visible here and a lot of snow
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SLF‘s update from yesterday evening.

“Observed weather on Thursday, 27.02.2020

During the night in the northern regions more than anywhere else, there was snowfall. In the morning hours in the southern and eastern regions it was quite sunny to start with, subsequently cloud cover moved in and precipitation again set in. The snowfall level ascended to nearly 1400 m during the afternoon.

Fresh snow

Between Tuesday morning and Thursday afternoon, above 1400 m:

Lower Valais not including Arolla, northern Grisons, northern flank of the Alps: mostly 40 to 60 cm;

Jura region, remaining parts of the Valais, remaining parts of the Gotthard region, upper valleys of Maggia, northern Grisons: 15 to 30 cm;

in the other regions of Switzerland, less; in the furthermost regions of the south it remained dry.

Temperature

Temperatures increased starting in the west, at midday at 2000 m to between -2 °C in the western regions and -8 °C in the eastern regions.

Wind

During the night blowing at moderate to strong velocity from westerly to northweasterly directions;
during the daytime becoming increasingly strong in velocity, storm strength, from the southwest; in the Alpine valleys of the north, strong-velocity foehn wind.

Weather forecast through Friday, 28.02.2020

During the night in the northern regions, frequent snowfall is anticipated. The precipitation will come to an end in the latter part of the nocturnal hours in the western regions, in the early morning hours in the eastern regions. Subsequently it will become quite sunny, before renewed cloud cover moves in from the west during the afternoon. In the southern regions it will be quite sunny. The snowfall level will swiftly descend from 1400 m down to low lying areas.

Fresh snow

Between Thursday afternoon and Friday morning above 1400 m:

northern Alpine Ridge east of the Finsteraarhorn, Prättigau, Silvretta: 20 to 40 cm;

in the other regions of Switzerland, 10 to 20 cm over widespread areas;

on the southern flank of the Alps, southern Goms, central Grisons, Engadine: less; or else it will remain dry.

Temperature

Temperatures will rise during the course of the day starting in the west: at midday at 2000 m to between -4 °C in the western regions and -10 °C in the eastern regions.

Wind

On Thursday evening, a strong to storm-strength southwesterly wind will still be blowing, subsequently shifting to northerly-to-northwesterly;
during the nighttime hours blowing at strong velocity in the southern regions at storm strength until midday;
in the other regions of Switzerland winds will be blowing predominantly at moderate strength.

Outlook through Sunday, 01.03.2020
Saturday

On Saturday it will be partly sunny to begin with. Subsequently cloud cover is expected to move in from the west. During the afternoon in the western and the southern regoins, a small amount of snowfall is anticipated above 1400 m. As a result of foehn windstorms it will be mild in the northern regions. Avalanche danger levels will remain critical in outlying terrain away from secured ski runs.

Sunday

On Saturday night, snowfall is expected over widespread areas above 1000 m. the daytime on Sunday, skies will be predominantly overcast in the northern regions, accompanied by some sunny intervals; in the southern regions it will be quite sunny. Temperatures will again descend significantly. Winds will be blowing at strong velocity from westerly directions. Avalanche danger levels are not expected to change significantly.“
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More snow incoming on Saturday, but rain to 1800 meters and high winds !
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ECM still very keen on substantial snowfall overnight Monday / Tuesday in the south central & eastern alps, GFS absolutely not interested. Anyone got an idea why?

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@munich_irish, GFS OP isn't predicting that low over NW Italy but I'd like it if they both came to an agreement of it being there!

Looking at GFS for the SW alps, there is lots of signal for precipiation from the ensembles but it's not being picked up by the OP.
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Actually it was there in the 12z Control run and is also there in the 18z Op Just unrolling.

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Maybe I was looking at an old run on GFS as the latest run also seems to be fairly snowy, with a low pressure area tracking across northern Italy. Good news for the Dolomites.
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That’s quite a La Grave forecast for next week!
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Snow depths here are now very healthy


Will we be getting close to record levels by the end of this week?
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00z GFS take on snowfall out to next weekend.

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Cropped up in the last couple of GFS runs.



ECM not interested yet. Let‘s see.
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Any idea what 2nd week of March is looking like for Grand Massif area. We get there next Friday 6th?
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I'll let you know Tuesday! Very Happy
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@snowmam, looking like potentially quite unsettled over that weekend (with fresh snow) then possibly calming down (with more sun). But at that range that is very low confidence.
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