 Poster: A snowHead
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interesting as i am debating doing this! BASI 1 at hemmel. trying to justify it as i would need to stay up there in a hotel etc. all adds up!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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BTW do BASI qualifications 'time out' and need refreshing at all???
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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altis, cheers. so if I got L1 this year, I have 3 years to get L2, then need to do a refresher every 3 years after that, is that correct?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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That's my understanding of it.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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kitenski, yes you need "contact time" with Basi every 3 years; I'm doing my race coach course (L1) and that counts as a refresher....
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kitenski, you need to do another BASI course (of any kind) within 3 years, or do a refreseher. You don't need to pass the course. So if you don't want to do your L2, you could just do a 1 day refresher, or a Snowboard L1 course for example would also count.
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little tiger, Just out of interest who taught you to ski the very first time you ever put on skis and at what age did you take up skiing?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Cynic again...
So, if your 'contact' with BASI can be completely irrelevant to your qualification, what's the point?
Other than creating revenue for BASI of course 
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altis, It's not completely irrelevant. Anything directed at improving ability, knowledge or teaching skills in snowsports would be relevant to an instructor role. You might even say a purely classroom generalist "communication skills" course could count (better keep that quiet or BASI will add it to their modules ).
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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altis, As fatbob, said, any continuing education with BASI is relevant. You could take the opposing view that if you're continuing with other BASI courses you're not made to do an additional referesher course.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| kevindonkleywood wrote: |
| little tiger, Just out of interest who taught you to ski the very first time you ever put on skis and at what age did you take up skiing? |
I was 36 (and 3/4's )
The guy that taught me was an instructor who specialised in teaching blind skiers.
I knew I had a proprioceptive problem - it was obvious in self testing of various things at uni and also the physios and occupational therapists I shared accom with had commented on it. However we assumed(bad idea I know but..) that I was simply low end normal. After all who would assume I had a major loss? I have a few telltale signs of an issue but it never occurred to anyone to look further... also it was years ago and not that well understood I think...
I requested an instructor who could teach well rather than demo well - I knew I was very very very bad at 'copy' and through experience with learning to fence I had discovered that with the right teaching I could learn a movement pattern (with effort... Poor coach spent weeks teaching me how to touch foil tip to wall/person).
The ski school gave me a guy who specialised in teaching blind skiers as blind skiers do not copy. (Our system has disabled skiing integrated with regular ski school so instructors are usually double qualified).
That instructor taught me maybe 3-4 lessons and then insisted I be assessed as he swore black and blue I had a brain injury. He had also worked with brain injury patients and I had movement patterns just like a group of his students.
Long and short - the doctor went  when he started testing me - he specialised in testing proprioception for the navy and thought he had seen a fair spectrum of different results.
After that instructor fell out with ski school the following season I had a PSIA 2 for 2 years - not good. She was limited by her own poor understanding of skiing- so although she worked hard to adjust to my disability she lacked a good enough grounding to really do the job. (I did eventually surpass her so... part of the problem being she thinks she has a better understanding than she really does)
My next instructor was a race coach, ex-racer, disabled instructor(cerebral palsy a specialty IIRC).
I then had a collection of full certs, racers, one ex-moguls competitor for Canada, instructor trainers, examiners... Some of them would brainstorm over beers how to get me to... flex an ankle, move my hips... keep my arms from flailing around like a thunderbird person(oh yes I was that bad)...
The general idea for ski school desk was to try to find me race coach or racers with disabled certs - they had a good technical understanding with the ability to adapt teaching... ditto the trainers and examiners - strong technical understanding made big difference in getting a good result with me.
Part of the issue is that I often need to break movements down into smaller sized chunks. This lets me work out how to make movements or feel feedback to control movements etc. Strong technical understanding lets me avoid poor imitations of a movement that may appear 'close enough' if you just judge by the look rather than ski performance. It also allows a bit more freedom of exploration to find alternative solutions. (eg one guy walked a couple of turns for me pressing on my arm to show me how much pressure he felt on his boot cuff at each point in the turn when he skied it- he had done that first - that helped me work out part of the ankle flexion problem I'd been struggling with... another had me moving clothing to provide sensory feedback to help make a movement... all sorts of weird things that got a part of the problem solved)... Most of those guys were also trained in a couple of systems and had worked in 2-3 different systems... variety works well for problem solving... (Eg the replacement instructor was PSIA trainer, APSI trainer, CSIA top level coach, racer, coach, disabled cert - with experience in many countries. The first instructor had about 20 seasons teaching in 2 countries with 2 countries certs plus disabled cert... plus he had ski bummed about 10years before that hanging out with instructors - so had an interest... and had a small acquired disability himself)
If you ask Easiski she has skied with me, seen me try to hike and chatted to Fred(he is very into biomechanics) who also skied with me - so she probably has a fairly good idea how I work and could translate into BASI talk...
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Oh and just for interest - I now do not fall off a bike if I try to stop... Fastman worked out a progression to teach me how to stop!
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You know it makes sense.
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Hi All. Some weeks ago on this thread I picked up that there had been some confusion regarding pre BASI level1 training at The Snow Centre. We do run a regular Tuesday evening training session to prepare or improve BASI specific skills. You should get this information when you book, but if you don't ask to speak to someone in the snowsports school.
PSG
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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gilleski, Have you thought of installing a webcam? It would be good to see folks having fun on the mainslope (and check for 'furniture' before driving down) while I'm at my desk during the week?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ALQ, we are looking at the at the moment. It would be good for customers to see the slope, nice and groomed ! When its full of freestyle we will post a picture of it......nice and groomed 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
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| little tiger wrote: |
| for illogical reasons best known to men, one should be a female in bikini... |
Why only one? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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| anarchicsaltire wrote: |
| gilleski wrote: |
Hi All. Some weeks ago on this thread I picked up that there had been some confusion regarding pre BASI level1 training at The Snow Centre. We do run a regular Tuesday evening training session to prepare or improve BASI specific skills. You should get this information when you book, but if you don't ask to speak to someone in the snowsports school.
PSG |
Pete, I booked with my son the first week of April, the letters confirming the course and recommending the Tuesday training sessions arrived today, I've just opened it! For the course on the 18th of this Month. 
Ps When I contacted the Snowcentre on two occasions they told me they don't do confirmation letters, just e-mails and they knew nothing about training sessions (they even went and checked with someone in the office on the second occasion). Fortunately bumped into Penny two weeks go who told me different, unfortunately I'm working this Tuesday evening. 
I suspect your instructors are losing a bit of business due to poor communication and awareness by the Snowcentre. |
anarchicsaltire I think it depends on how well informed the person on the other end of the phone is. Like you I received a letter of confirmation of my L1 course which preceded your course on the 18 July and included in it was a recommendation to attend a pre-assessment training session to be held every tuesday 7-9pm. And when I phoned up to enquire about the session, the receptionist had no hesitation in advising me about it - she even told me the name of the basi instructor, Penny Chapman. I think it stated that it took up to 11 delegates. I then asked her what if I,m the only name down for it? "No problem," she replied. As long as there is one delegate, the session is on. When I turned up that Tuesday (14 June) there were just four of us. One of them I did the L1 course with the following week.
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