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Please, please, please Wear a helmet . . .

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IncogSkiSno, Thanks in no small part to this thread Mrs Axs and I have both now come over to the light and bought helmets in Maria Alm last week.

Tried a Giro (and several others) but fit didn't work for me so ended up with a Uvex. Fits like a er, helmet , lightweight very comfortable not too warm and might even save my head one day. So thanks again for the thread, and all best wishes for your son. snowHead

P.S. It snowed in Maria Alm - Skiing was great!!
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AxsMan, Great news. They ain't as bad as everyone thinks to wear are they, you don't notice after a while do you snowHead
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I bought mine last year in Wengen after completing the downhill course in just under 4 minutes wink - thought is wasnt worth the risk. Fits really well (bloke in Central Sport spend alot of time ensuring the best fit) was used to it after a couple of hours.
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AxsMan, mrsfatcontrroller and 3 minicontrollers wearing helmets.


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thefatcontroller, I agree, children won't listen to their parents in this instance. They will however listen to ski insturctors, due to authority and the kids will look upto the instructor as a role model due to their superior skiing skills.

I know I probably should. Next year I would consider it as I progress to hard blacks and bits of off piste where the risks are greater. The fear I have is not of looking cissy, it is one of my head getting hot and feeling tied to it as to take it off you'd need somewhere to put it. All the falls I have affect my shoulders and the muscles are still stiff and there is no comfortable shoulder protecting.
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I take it you don't have kids then

Er, no. The impairment of reason which appears to go with it doesn't appeal.
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Lizzard wrote:
Er, no. The impairment of reason which appears to go with it doesn't appeal.


Seems as though you would be well suited Laughing
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Christopher, I had my bad fall 2 weeks ago on a flatish bit of red in a whiteout. From the sounds of where your skiing is you need a helmet Laughing Laughing

I sound like you, I don't suffer cold and my fear was over heating with a helmet. Its not like that in truth. Lots of helmets have vents.
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thefatcontroller, I'm rarely cold likewise. My toes can get cold in the wind but that is it. I normally ski with just a baselayer and my thick coat. If Im skiing quickly or being challenged, I do quite hot and overheat.

The argument for me wearing a helmet is a good one, I have to admit. I am progressing abnormally quickly and my confidence and the runs I do attempt are probably just a teeny weeny bit too much for me to ski 100% safely. I don't know that much about them, what is the price range?
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All,

having been persuaded by peer pressure, I bought one over the summer.

Last week was the first opportunity to try it.

Wasn't convinced it was going to be a success, so had a number of excuses and alternative head-gear with me " just in case". Like many posters here, am a warm blooded skier and was pretty certain it would be too hot.

Have to say, After 20 minutes, didn't notice I had it on, and wore it all day every day. Downsides - OK, so hat hair is a little more pronounced at the end of the day, but on the other hand it does give you somewhere to put your gloves at lunchtime.
Did have to have a balaclave on one day, as I didn't get a 'thingymadoob' to go between goggles and helmet, so the little gap left wasn't all that comfortable in driving snow.

But it now feels now like part of the gear, like a seatbelt in the car, and wouldn't think about venturing out without it.

Damn: I'm a convert.
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JimW, wink Cool snowHead
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Butterfly, Do go and buy a helmet! I bought one a couple of weeks ago for going skiing in March, and I can hardly wait to wear it! Feels very cosy and comfortable and even looks nice! Madeye-Smiley
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I wondered if helmet-wearers have a gospel choir. They all seem to be Born Again, have had Damascus moments, a need to reinforce each other that they have The Chosen Way and a zeal to reform us sceptics.
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thefatcontroller wrote:
Christopher, Head trauma and crashes have no respect for levels or skiing ability wink snowHead

That is a very good point. My crash last year was caused entirely by an incompetent skier crashing into my ribs, as she had no control on her speed. OK-- there was no head injury, but I am not taking chances anymore, and even looking to get body armour!
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achilles, Wore a helmet before I had any form of crash, just see the benefits outweighing the negatives. Unsure of the reason for the link in your thread, was it suppsed to be a joke Confused

What are the negatives of helmet wearing by the way Confused snowHead
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I too have seen sense and got a helmet. I don't even like wearing a beanie or bobble hat whilst skiing but I got used to it very quickly and would echo the comments that if you get a well fitted one you do forget you have got it on.

My main reasoning was that it doesn't matter how adept I've got at not falling it doesn't stop someone else barrelling into me and knocking me over.
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achilles, bit like non-smokers, and people who wear seat belts?
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thefatcontroller, A packing hassle, and a minor irritation is that I have to duck around to make sure my head doesn't get in the way when a lift-bar comes down. I have a helmet myself, but am unimpressed by its ability to do anything serious protecting my head. Has nothing like the strength of construction-industry, caving, aircrew and motorcycling helmets I ave worn. I find my helmet makes goggle-wearing uncomfortable (and so distracting). The lesson from that is to try on goggles and helmet together - but I just don't feel motivated to buy another at the moment. My skiing experience does not suggest that I am at significantly greater risk of injury compared to my helmet-wearing friends. I am bemused by their almost religious enthusiasm to convert others, though.
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achilles, the pictures on the skiing yesterday have probably sparked this response - but I would bet my salary that he would have been more seriously injured without a helmet.
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achilles, I wish you luck and hope you don't don't regret your decision. As much as you may think that many have religious enthusiasm towards converting others to wearing helmets, I also find it incredibly amusing how many think they can ski better than they can and don't need a helmet Laughing Laughing
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achilles, Having heard of so many accidents involving head injuries recently, maybe that is why we are all getting more aware of this possibility --and I am very grateful that IncogSkiSno has brought it to the forum. I hope her son is now fine and fully recovered.
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stoatsbrother, having been in a major glider crash, where I thought I was going to die as the ground came towards me at alarming speed and at the wrong angle (to say the least) I am convinced about seat belts. I wound up strapped to the rear bulkhead of the cockpit, with no seat squab (or aircraft come to that) beneath me. I am sure without wearing my seat harness I would have suffered major injury.

I am a non-smoker, but am unhappy about the no-smoking legislations and its effects. I think clubs and pubs should have been obliged to provide decent air filtration if they permitted smoking, I do not think that smoking should have been banned from them, nor was it the business of doctors to promote no-smoking legislation - anther restriction on freedom of choice.
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thefatcontroller, I have absolutely no idea of how well you can ski. I am quite an experienced skier, but many with far less experience ski far better than I. I have had ski injuries to leg, knee, and ankle. Perhaps I should ski in armour?
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achilles, Are you genuinely suggesting smoking and passive smoking doesn't kill Shocked Laughing You definitley don't need a helmet, nothing in there to protect snowHead Laughing
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thefatcontroller, I am suggesting that in an environment with proper air extraction and filtration passive smoking is not a problem. I am also suggesting, that people shoujld have the freedom of coice to be in a location or not smoking or not. I am not a society behaviour control freak.
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achilles, Silly point, bones heal, heads don't. I know 2 really experienced skiers, probably as brillant as you are, he and his wife were skiing last year. They only skied together for 2 days because on day 2 she went to hospital with a fractured skull. She had someone come into here. She was lucky, they wear helmets now. snowHead


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achilles,
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Your club is men only. Women only as guests. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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thefatcontroller, yup. It is the free choice of members to belong or not to the club, and for women to enter the club or not given club rules. Women are equally free to sort their own private social clubs - or not. I am unclear of the point you are making.
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achilles, Of course you are unclear Laughing Laughing Laughing
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thefatcontroller wrote:
...... probably as brillant as you are........


I really take exception to the inference that I consider myself a brilliant skier. I have skied with a lot of snowheads who know I am anything but - nor do I pretend to be.
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achilles, Take the praise, enjoy it Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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thefatcontroller, sarcasm, insults and laughing at one's own "jokes" are the marks of a boor.
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we've been skiing this week with two friends who have never really thought of helmets. He had a bleeding gash on back of his head, caused by someone bringing a chair lift bar down a bit too quickly, and carelessly. She took a big fall on a red piste yesterday, which was quite hardpacked, and gave her head a pretty hefty bang. They've decided to buy helmets for their next trip.
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laundryman, Confused Confused Laughing Laughing
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pam w, One wonders how long it will be before someone decides to sue the piste owning companies for a head injury which will mean they make it compulsory for helmets to be worn?
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achilles wrote:
thefatcontroller, A packing hassle, and a minor irritation is that I have to duck around to make sure my head doesn't get in the way when a lift-bar comes down. I have a helmet myself, but am unimpressed by its ability to do anything serious protecting my head. Has nothing like the strength of construction-industry, caving, aircrew and motorcycling helmets I ave worn. I find my helmet makes goggle-wearing uncomfortable (and so distracting). The lesson from that is to try on goggles and helmet together - but I just don't feel motivated to buy another at the moment. My skiing experience does not suggest that I am at significantly greater risk of injury compared to my helmet-wearing friends. I am bemused by their almost religious enthusiasm to convert others, though.


My helmet is not as strong as a motorcycle helmet either. But then I don't ski at 70 mph on tarmac, surrounded by cars and trucks. I skied for many years without a helmet and never had a serious head injury, although I can remember a couple of painful whacks. I started wearing a helmet 3 years ago and found it surprisingly comfortable and warm. Unlike you, I also found wearing goggles more comfortable. I wouldn't go back now because I really can't see any downside to wearing it.
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Perhaps I should ski in armour?

Definitely. And bubble-wrap. Laughing
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And bubble-wrap.

Brilliant idea! Someone should patent it!? Very Happy
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although I can remember a couple of painful whacks.


I just remembered a backward fall I had some years ago, on a flat bit of the piste approaching the lifts. It was icy and I hit the back of my head, and felt rather concussed the rest of the day.. Sad
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My recent weekend away was the first time i have worn a helmet.

I bought one because on my trip to La Rosiere last season I was skiing down a really easy blue run. It was one of those runs that is almost flat in places (the kind that snowboarders hate!). I wasn't going very fast. I skied past a parked piste basher and was slightly distracted by gawping at the machine. The next thing i knew i was being helped to my feet by an ESF instructor who had seen me fall and not get up. Apparently i was unconscious for about a minute. I then attempted to put my ski back on backwards while insisting to the ESF man that i was perfectly fine. I was obviously concussed and was advised to return very slowly to the resort and not to ski again that day.

This bought home to me how easy it is to fall and bash your heads. Heads are delicate things, the slightest bump can cause serious problems. I was ambling along a stupidly simple run, but still managed to knock myself out with a blow to the back of my head.

A helmet was the first thing i bought before i went near the slopes again.

Yes it is a pain to pack in your luggage. Yes it is a bit of a pain to wear. But it's not that bad and could save your life. I don't mind looking a bit daft if the helmet saves my life one day.
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