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@GranthamPaul, Out of interest..... how are you going to make it work regards timing, i've thought about it and decided that unless things change soon we're increasingly likely to be deciding against going, eg;
Your family have the tests on say a Tuesday, and you get the results back in 72 hours on say the Friday? If all OK and you have the certificates you leave UK late Friday and drive without a stop-over and arrive into Austria late on the Saturday. What if there are any delays in the test results, or on route?
One of my biggest concerns now is that Tirol could have a second wave or local spike, Kurz then locks down the area again and we would have to get out quickly (as we did on 13th March which was horrendous, but OK we'd have the car this time), then we'd have to self isolate back in UK for 14 days, or lie and say we'd been to France (not doing that). Personally whilst holidays are nice and we sure need one, i'm not convinced I want to go through all that again, and be perpetually looking at the media feeds to see whats going on whilst away. I still can't get my head around the blind panic that ensued on 13th March, people were literally skiing down into town at 4pm and the police were meeting us, the train station was locked-down and we were hoarded onto buses to get out, and police setting up road blocks...... that image still sticks with me...... think Isle of Skye may increasingly be our favoured option. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well I gave up holding out for Austria today, our flight to MUC is on the 28th July, and I've booked a hotel in Garmisch. If the border opens up in August we may still head down to Hintertux for a day depending on the snow conditions.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@GranthamPaul, it is clear that folk who have been in the UK in the previous 14 days can enter Austria without quarantine if they are in possession of the appropriate negative tests. As you can see from this thread, there are clearly UK visitors in Austria at this moment in time. Austria might not be encouraging tourism from the UK but they are not making it impossible either.
It is very unlikely that you will be stopped at the border especially if you cross on one of the main travel routes eg at Kufstein or Bregenz, more possible that you might get stopped further into Austria (I know of this happening but it was a few weeks back and life is more relaxed currently). It would probably be a good idea to send copies of your certificates to your accommodation prior to arrival, this should ensure that registration will be problem free.
Personally I would keep to the autobahn or main roads, if you take a back route I would suspect the the local police might think you were trying to avoid being stopped and you might end up with more grief. There are not many back roads across the border in any case. The border between the two countries mostly runs across mountains or in the middle of a river so not so many options.
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@Markymark29, can happily collect the stuff and keep it in my cellar for you if that makes anything easier, though might not help much re. getting it back to the UK! Let me know anyway!
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"come spend your money in Austria with me - but not if you voted with the majority"
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@mitcva, no doubt there’s another more suitable thread for this kind of comment. Suffice it to say that everyone is welcome here in the sanctuary that is often referred to as “La La Land”, including members of the 37% “majority”. No discrimination.
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@GranthamPaul, @Markymark29,
This is the current entry requirement https://bmi.gv.at/news.aspx?id=6848727832704B4B752F633D
And in English
https://bmi.gv.at/bmi_documents/2513.pdf
No mention of essential travel, you do need a Covid certificate.
This how I’m doing it, test Wednesday results within 48 hours by email, head to Austria Friday, overnight in Germany arrive Saturday in Austria. Will ask the hotel to print off the certificate when we arrive Friday. I’m working on the assumption I’m negative.
EDIT: you need to arrive in Austria within 4 days of the test
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Tue 14-07-20 15:18; edited 1 time in total
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Currently planning on using:
https://www.doctorcall.co.uk/private-gp-services/coronavirus--covid-19--testing
Arriving in Austria on Sunday so test Wednesday morning, test results 48 hours - worst case could collect hard copy on Friday.
Using them because doctor does test and signs certificate - but still waiting for confirmation they will additionally sign "official" Austrian certificate - hope so for £596
Never was able to find whether they would accept UK test results which are typically sent electronically (text message from NHS) - no idea why they are bothered that doctor does test as that does not affect the reliability of result as far as I know.
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@clarky999, Mate, wow that's a fab offer and that'd be awesome but don't want to cause you grief. If it'd work could meet you in Germany somewhere like GP or somewhere over Fernpass and drop you some fuel money and buy you lunch etc, be nice to meet up. I'll speak to D and see if we should maybe go to southern Germany instead and work that in? It'd be somewhere end August is that realistic? Could look at a Airb&b maybe somewhere and do southern Germany hiking/ biking instead of AUT......think we'd be OK in a UK plated car if we stay in Germany? I'll whatsapp you this evening later on if OK.
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@GranthamPaul, Good plan, hope it works out all well.
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still waiting for confirmation they will additionally sign "official" Austrian certificate
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They will - CONFIRMED
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| GranthamPaul wrote: |
Currently planning on using:
https://www.doctorcall.co.uk/private-gp-services/coronavirus--covid-19--testing
Arriving in Austria on Sunday so test Wednesday morning, test results 48 hours - worst case could collect hard copy on Friday.
Using them because doctor does test and signs certificate - but still waiting for confirmation they will additionally sign "official" Austrian certificate - hope so for £596
Never was able to find whether they would accept UK test results which are typically sent electronically (text message from NHS) - no idea why they are bothered that doctor does test as that does not affect the reliability of result as far as I know. |
I posted earlier after speaking to doctorcall...the Austrian embassy confirmed a UK certificate is ok, which is what doctorcall issues. But also good to know they will also sign the austrian cert
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.think we'd be OK in a UK plated car if we stay in Germany?
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@Markymark29, Some of our British friends, who have recently arrived in Austria in U.K. plated cars, have worked on the basis that, in the unlikely event of being stopped at the border, they will simply agree to a quarantine and then go directly to Zell am See hospital for a test (thus ending the quarantine if negative). However none have been stopped.
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You know it makes sense.
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I posted earlier after speaking to doctorcall...the Austrian embassy confirmed a UK certificate is ok, which is what doctorcall issues. But also good to know they will also sign the austrian cert
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I asked too and they responded - "The regulation requires the health certificate form to be signed by a medical doctor. We cannot guarantee entry with other documents, the decision is taken by the respective local health authorities at the Austrian border."
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@GranthamPaul, 2 different answers from the Austrian Embassy in London? The health cert from doctorcall is signed by a medical doctor so meets the requirement
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@holidayloverxx,  spot on, that's what I'm going with. Doctorcall also asked that we take our passports.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@tatmanstours, Thanks, assume your friends are quarantining though? Probs ok if you are planning a long stay but not great if like us it’s a 10 night trip.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@tatmanstours, maybe I have misunderstood but if what your friends have done is ignore the quarantine requirement on the basis of "if challenged will agree to a test" I would say that is pretty irresponsible and likely to end with either enforced quarantine for 14 days or immediate expulsion from Austria. It will also not help other UK travellers as the police will then be much much likely to stop others who might have the same idea. The regulations are very clear; you need to quarantine for 14 days at a specific location unless you have either a negative test on entering the country or get a negative test result WHILST staying at your prearranged quarantine location.
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@Markymark29, no, no one has had to quarantine. They weren’t stopped - just drove into Austria as normal. In fact, one couple stayed here for a couple of weeks, before heading off to Vienna for a short stay there and in the Wachau wine region (and a trip on the Danube). They arrived back in Saalbach a couple of days ago and reported that they had crossed the German/Austrian border twice in both directions without a problem. There were no checks, and they weren’t stopped at any stage of the journey, even though they are driving a GB plated car.
As I said above, their fall-back position is, should it ever become necessary, to agree to self-quarantine but then head straight to Zell am See hospital for a test, thus immediately ending the quarantine (assuming a negative result).
Incidentally, I thought that Austria was on the list of approved countries that are exempt from the U.K.’s requirement for returning/incoming travellers to self-quarantine for 14 days. I only mention that, because I think you’ve mentioned that a few times as being a potential problem.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@tatmanstours, We wouldnt need to quarantine going back to UK, but its necessary to quaratine in Austria for 14 days, or provide a test certificate.
It's not my position to comment on your friends, but my understanding is that they should have quarantined 14 days in line with AUT requirements? If they'd have been stopped and then tested and found to be positive, then what, they'd have been running around all over the place previously potentially infecting others.
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@Markymark29, sure, no problem! Drop me a message later, but if you were to be in the Garmisch area anyway then that would be easy all round!
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@tatmanstours, In which case they have been very irresponsible. Except in very unusual circumstances there are no border controls between Germany and Austria. It is absolutely clear that anyone who has been in the UK (and most other places) in the 14 days prior to arrival in Austria is subject to a quarantine restriction, this can only be avoided is you are a freight driver, doctor etc or if you have a negative test result. Your friends are in Austria illegally and as such if the relevant authorities find out will be in a lot of grief. Upsetting the Austrian police is not generally a good idea, if they are lucky they would be expelled, unlucky subject to 14 days compulsory quarantine at their own expense.
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It's not my position to comment on your friends, but my understanding is that they should have quarantined 14 days in line with AUT requirements? If they'd have been stopped and then tested and found to be positive, then what, they'd have been running around all over the place previously potentially infecting others.
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Agree with the sentiment and that people should get tested rather than break the law and we will be complying with testing. By ignoring the rules they could make potentially make it more awkward for others abiding by rules.
However, the risk of them infecting others is probably no greater now than for residents of some other countries allowed in without a test. As discussed earlier in the thread it is of course up to the Austrian to determine what constitutes "high risk", just a shame from my wallet's point of view that they don't seem committed to very regular reviews of the epidemiology in the case of UK - it's like getting blood from a stone when asking them about timetable for a review. I'm not being too judgemental though - I do understand nervousness about opening up.
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398 cases only today - average will likely soon be less than 500
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@munich_irish, and @Markymark29, I’ve now been corrected by Mrs TT, and by @radar,
Apparently these mutual friends, having told me that they intended to proceed as I have explained above, ultimately decided that they would have tests done before leaving. I understand that it was concern over whether their travel insurance would be invalidated that caused them to reconsider.
However since arrival in Austria they have undertaken a mini-tour of Vienna and the Wachau wine region, involving two border crossings into Germany and two into Austria, and whilst driving a GB registered car, and they report no stop-checks or other problems.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@tatmanstours, in which case apologies for getting grumpy
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@munich_irish, no need to apologise. Get as grumpy as you like about people for whom I’m not in any way responsible.
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Getting all mixed up reading this. Duh! We (3 of us), are supposed to be flying into Munich from UK on 8th Aug then taking the train to Soll for a week. In simple terms, is that likely to happen? So confused about the covid test though. Help please. (be gentle lol)
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You know it makes sense.
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@Tokydee, simply...you each have to have a negative PCR swab test for Covid 19. The test must be done no more than 4 days before you enter Austria. It must be a certificate signed by a doctor so a private test not the NHS one. This is in place until 30th sept at the moment.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Thank you
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It must be a certificate signed by a doctor so a private test not the NHS one
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We have another tranche of friends arriving in Austria soon, and I know that last time they drove down they got free tests done at their local NHS hospital (by saying that one of them had experienced some worrying symptoms). They weren’t stopped, so those NHS test results were not “put to the test”. I’ll report back if this time they get stop-checked (although it seems unlikely that will happen).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@holidayloverxx, 30th September? I thought it was end July....do you have a link where this was advised to 30 September?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Markymark29, i mentioned it somewhere higher up the thread. I will see if i can find it
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@Markymark29, , if you look at the links you will see its in place until 30 September
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@GranthamPaul, @Markymark29,
This is the current entry requirement https://bmi.gv.at/news.aspx?id=6848727832704B4B752F633D
And in English
https://bmi.gv.at/bmi_documents/2513.pdf
No mention of essential travel, you do need a Covid certificate.
This how I’m doing it, test Wednesday results within 48 hours by email, head to Austria Friday, overnight in Germany arrive Saturday in Austria. Will ask the hotel to print off the certificate when we arrive Friday. I’m working on the assumption I’m negative.
EDIT: you need to arrive in Austria within 4 days of the test
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@holidayloverxx, @radar, thanks I’d missed that
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@Markymark29, easily done as its gone a bit off tangent 
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@Markymark29, there does seem to be a certain amount of confusion with the Austrian official info, this (using Google translate) says flight bans until the end of July
Landing bans (updated):
Due to a change in the ordinance on the landing ban for aircraft from SARS-CoV-2 risk areas (Federal Law Gazette No. II 262/2020), the landing ban for passenger aircraft from China, Iran, Belarus, the United Kingdom , Russia and the Ukraine is at least until 31 July extended .
From June 14th this year there is no longer a landing ban for passenger aircraft from all over Italy, but only for those from Lombardy. In addition, landing bans for passenger planes from Portugal and Sweden will be introduced at the end of June 14th, at the same time the landing bans for passenger planes from France and the Netherlands will lapse. In addition, it is added that the regulation does not apply to flights of imperative interest of the Republic.
The other links mention 30.09.2020. I suspect the bureaucrats are having a hard time keeping up with the various changes. The page from 10:30 this morning https://bmi.gv.at/news.aspx?id=6848727832704B4B752F633D on the interior ministry website includes a number of countries eg Ireland in both the "quarantine free" and quarantine list, difficult to know what to think
The quarantine thing is "under review" so could easily change to include or exclude countries with no notice.
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| The quarantine thing is "under review" so could easily change to include or exclude countries with no notice. |
Yep, and the official page does seem to be out of date from time to time. There was an update to the press this morning, but mostly they were adding countries to the landing ban rather than removing them (mostly Eastern Europe I think), although I think Lombardy may be coming off. No change to the status of the UK.
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@munich_irish, no confusion I can see. Entry reqts till 30th sept, landing ban extended to 31st July and it will be reviewed again. 2 separate things with 2 separate requirements. Odd about the ireland thing though
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