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I don’t think it will last..my local friends here give it between 2 & 3 weeks before lockdown is reintroduced (particularly with the looming threat of SA variant over in Tirol)..
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think they are doing it as businesses and people are at breaking point. Burgenland, Niederösterreich & Wien seem to be the only regions that haven‘t had major spikes yet so people are finding this never-ending lockdown hard to accept.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@DB, I think it’s the not knowing that does it, for here in the UK there’s still so much uncertainty, we don’t know when some normality will resume.
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@VolklAttivaS5, at least you can see the vaccine rollout happening though. News in Tirol this morning was that 3 villages would get vaccinations for their elderly this week, so probably <100 people 
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@Scarlet, yes very much so, that has been a great success.
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| Bergsteiger278 wrote: |
| I don’t think it will last..my local friends here give it between 2 & 3 weeks before lockdown is reintroduced (particularly with the looming threat of SA variant over in Tirol).. |
+1, once the Feb holidays are over it seems likely things will start shutting up again
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Das mag wohl stimmen - leider..
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@queenie pretty please, Antigen tests are just one more tool to prevent the spread of the virus. They produce far fewer "False Positives" than PCR tests because of the way they "detect" the virus. PCR tests will detect "Previous Positives" due to the presence of dormant tissues/cells not antibodies, otherwise they'd pick up vaccinated people too. PCR Tests are run in a machine that measures "Viral Load" and works on cycles. The lower the number of cycles required to get a positive reading, the more virus you have in your body. Where I work, anything over 30 cycles is not considered a Positive Test. We do however treat any previous positives over 90 days as a new case (or re-infection) until proven otherwise.
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, thanks.
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Stimmt!
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| Scarlet wrote: |
| @VolklAttivaS5, at least you can see the vaccine rollout happening though. News in Tirol this morning was that 3 villages would get vaccinations for their elderly this week, so probably <100 people |
Yes I registered to get the vaccine in lower Austria which has a population of 1.7 million. Soon they will vaccinate the first 10,000 people (less than 1%). People over 80 and certain people with a medical condition are first in the queue.
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You know it makes sense.
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@DB, Do you know what the issue is? Is it that Austria just doesn't have many vaccines at all, or is the integrated distribution network a single doctor in a van? Three care homes in a week, that's ridiculous.
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@Scarlet, I think the supply is pretty slow and that Austria hasn't moved to set up vaccination centres. I think a lot of larger companies like the one I work for will implement their own vaccination programmes and that otherwise it will be managed by general doctors. There doesn't seem to be any great urgency. Perhaps the feeling is that the winter tourism season is already lost but that the vaccination programme will be underway sufficiently to allow a summer season. Hospital numbers don't seem to be unmanageable at the moment so much so that Austrian hospitals are currently treating some patients from Portugal.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| There doesn't seem to be any great urgency. |
That's what concerns me. Probably no point setting up vaccine centres until you've got the supply for the general population, but at the same time Tirol has been sealed off and they're expecting us to put up with all the extra testing and intimidation bullsh*t whilst offering nothing in return.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@DB, I know  Better in the Mayor than the bin, still, but it does seem like a strange coincidence that so many were jabbed in the same week. Some kind of old fashioned deference to authority going on?
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I’d hazard a guess that with outbreaks of the SA variant, the claims that the Astra Zeneca vaccine’s possible diminished efficacy in dealing with the variant coupled with a seeming reluctance of many Austrians to have any vaccine, that an efficient and timely vaccine programme is less likely.
Someone mentioned, the other day, that the state government are negotiating with Russia for supply of the Sputnik vaccine. Clearly an independent process outside of the flawed EU attempts to ensure Europe-wide supplies. Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen - I’ve not found any corroborating information.
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It's just been on the news that Austria has negotiated a large supply of the Moderna vaccine to arrive in April.
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I think somewhere in the region of 280,000 vaccines have now been given, 70,000 of which were second shots. Slow.
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| Cacciatore wrote: |
| I’d hazard a guess that with outbreaks of the SA variant, the claims that the Astra Zeneca vaccine’s possible diminished efficacy in dealing with the variant coupled with a seeming reluctance of many Austrians to have any vaccine, that an efficient and timely vaccine programme is less likely. |
It's infuriating. Any of the approved vaccines are better than no vaccine and so what if you need another one later?
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| Someone mentioned, the other day, that the state government are negotiating with Russia for supply of the Sputnik vaccine. Clearly an independent process outside of the flawed EU attempts to ensure Europe-wide supplies. Whether that’s true or not remains to be seen - I’ve not found any corroborating information. |
That doesn't surprise me, they seem quite keen to get supplies of the Sputnik one. However, I hope they will still be relying on EMA approval – if there's one thing that will put people off taking it, it's having a bash themselves
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@Scarlet, Think UK are on 14m first doses now, doing something right for a change.
280,000 seems very slow, is that correct?
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@Markymark29, It's in the right ballpark according to this: https://info.gesundheitsministerium.at/en/ (no idea how accurate that is). There was a lot of back-patting going on in the first couple of weeks, but it's all gone very quiet on the immunisation front. As above, there is no sense of urgency at all, just blame it on Tirol and make them suffer for it
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Salzburg news are reporting 360,727 first vaccines completed as of today. Very slow but no one seems to think there's much of a rush as long as the bulk of it is completed in time for the summer season. In fairness life is relatively normal here other than the lack of tourism and gastronomy. Shops and schools have reopened and most people are going to work. The hospitals do not seem to be under pressure and are treating some Covid patients from Portugal. Of course, I'm not in Tirol, I imagine things feel a little different there.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@queenie pretty please, 360,727 is great for Salzburg. UK as a whole only managed 411,812 today.
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You know it makes sense.
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@ringingmaster, that's for all of Austria, not Salzburg. The daily rate is around 15,000.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| @ringingmaster, that's for all of Austria, not Salzburg. The daily rate is around 15,000. |
Ah ok. I misunderstood.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| It's just been on the news that Austria has negotiated a large supply of the Moderna vaccine to arrive in April. |
The EU ordered c210 million Moderna vaccines (reported late January)....I’m surprised lil ol Austria has managed to secure a supply (presumably in addition to whatever proportion they’ll receive from central EU ‘procurement’).
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“Lil ol Austria” is, of course, very wealthy by most standards ..and money does more than just talk..
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Some other resorts have at least stated their opening intentions. Kreischberg until Feb 28th, Lachtal until April 5th. Details on this Bergfex page:
https://www.bergfex.com/kreischberg/
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| DB wrote: |
Week by week more and more resorts will close.
Some of the larger resorts are still saying they will open until Easter (11.04) but I doubt they will all stay open until then. |
Agreed. It will be very hard to justify.
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As anticipated - just received an Email from the Mountain Hotel in Galtur, Austria saying they won't be opening earlier than April so our Silvretta Ski Tour trip mid March 2021 won't happen. The hotel is expecting the next update from the government during early March.
This also supports the view that the earliest relaxation of the lockdown will be early April 2021 so hotels are unlikely to open before then.
https://orf.at/stories/3201587/
Last edited by After all it is free  on Tue 16-02-21 12:40; edited 2 times in total
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Before Stanton posts this ....
6 Brits found partying in Söll, Austria for the second time. (5 of 6 are at least legal residents in Austria. 1 has a second home in Austria).
https://tirol.orf.at/stories/3090478/
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DB - thanks for this..makes one ashamed to be a Brit .. one small point - the report says all six are legally in Austria, tho‘ one has registered a second home and the other five their main residence..
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