Shimmy Alcott, things would be a lot easier if you were a lesbian.
Bode Swiller, Getting confused with Mumsnet again?
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Time for another alexa.com analysis of respective global rankings for skiclub.co.uk, snowHeads.com and ... of course ... snowvole.com
The message for the SCGB is very loud now - although the usual autumn pick-up in traffic is happening, the re-designed website is failing to improve (or even stablise) their global ranking. A fall from 160,691 (12 May 2013) to 173,248 (8 Nov 2013). That's a slippage of nearly 10%.
snowHeads is making substantial progress, and its divergence from the SCGB is clear on the graph. An improvement from 130,041 to 93,675 - way up the scale from the SCGB.
Vole continues to burrow/hibernate. An improvement from 2,080,744 to 1,562,885 ... but these are extremely low rankings for a commercial website.
After all it is free
After all it is free
Bode Swiller,
This one should be win-win
p.s. dont forget the SCGB AGM, everyone!
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
Shimmy Alcott, win-win-win would be better.
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Comedy Goldsmith, If you look at estimated visits for the last month... SH 250,300 v. SCGB 149,700 you get a better idea of the gap but I wouldn't rely on Alexa and Trafficestimate all that much.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
Bode Swiller wrote:
Comedy Goldsmith, If you look at estimated visits for the last month... SH 250,300 v. SCGB 149,700 you get a better idea of the gap but I wouldn't rely on Alexa and Trafficestimate all that much.
Do we have comparable figures for 2012 and previous years?
I see you omitted 'Vole visits', but you're a compassionate person - we know that.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Comedy Goldsmith, yes, that's right, I've got all day to help the embiggening of this thread. And I think you have vole issues.
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
Further statistical extrapolation can only make this thread more cromulent... To flank speed with this silliness!
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Richard_Sideways, I like that... whatever it means.
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
It doesn't mean anything if you can't understand it. Join the club (sic).
Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Comedy Goldsmith, embiggen and cromulent are both neologisms. You need to chillax.
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Bode Swiller wrote:
... I think you have vole issues.
You're quite right, and thanks to seeing this movie in 1972 I have other zoological issues ...
Alastair Pink, if you don't know there are cliques in sH... it is because you aren't in one of them, or have taken that special oath... you know the one...
Here's some video from one of the recent Bashes (sic) where new boy snowHeads are initiated into the fold.
CG is said to have 'left and rejoined' several times just so he could get a free rucksa...I mean, undergo the initiation ceremony again.
Anyway, looking forward to the time when CG decides that snowHeads isn't perfect and starts posting in the suggestions forum.
Hints for CG's attention:
snowHeads calls itself 'Ski Club 2.0' but isn't owned by the membership. You need to deal with this issue. I note snowHeads offer flights for some Bashes but don't appear to be bonded. Is that legal? You should find out. Also, they have no green policy. You could help them with setting one up.
Of course you're far too chicken to start critiquing snowHeads at the moment, but you're sure to revert to type before too long. I'll be sure to chip in when you begin your inevitable onslaught.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
PJSki wrote:
Also I note snowHeads offer flights for some Bashes but don't appear to be bonded. Is that legal? You should find out.
Short answer is yes. Saves DG engaging on something he would need to investigate, and your terminology is wrong in relation to what is covered by the Acts. Hey Ho.
Also I note snowHeads offer flights for some Bashes but don't appear to be bonded. Is that legal? You should find out.
Short answer is yes. Saves DG engaging on something he would need to investigate, and your terminology is wrong in relation to what is covered by the Acts. Hey Ho.
What terminology? What acts? Anyway, CG will need to check for himself. Is snowheads a limited company? If so, what's the name of the company?
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
PJSki, Well if you don't know the terminology and law around travel providers and agency then how can you suggest its illegal, as that is what you infer?
After all it is free
After all it is free
Agenterre wrote:
PJSki, Well if you don't know the terminology and law around travel providers and agency then how can you suggest its illegal, as that is what you infer?
Simply asking a question, no need to get all defensive.
Is snowHeads a tour operator or a travel agent?
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
Could the OP please rename this thread "Mass Shooting in Wimbledon… SCGB shoots self in foot" ? Oh, I forgot, probably been fired.
PJSki, He (DG) would have given this thread up eventually .. but if you keep feeding him then you are digging the hole yourself. Trying to turn the thread against just means you are digging the SCGB grave faster.
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Agenterre wrote:
Could the OP please rename this thread "Mass Shooting in Wimbledon… SCGB shoots self in foot" ? Oh, I forgot, probably been fired.
PJSki, He (DG) would have given this thread up eventually .. but if you keep feeding him then you are digging the hole yourself. Trying to turn the thread against just means you are digging the SCGB grave faster.
Oh, yeah, I forgot, this is the 'just right' ski club. Anyway, CG will turn on snowHeads in the end.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
No -- of course isn't perfect. Even I notice that Admin and his elves keep trying to improve it. You're hole-digging because nobody respects anybody (individual or corporate) who sets out to knock the competition which is what you are doing. Hence the grave analogy.
Oh and I call a community not a 'club' … A club implies costs loadsadosh to join but can't remember why.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Agenterre wrote:
No -- of course isn't perfect. Even I notice that Admin and his elves keep trying to improve it. You're hole-digging because nobody respects anybody (individual or corporate) who sets out to knock the competition which is what you are doing. Hence the grave analogy.
Oh and I call a community not a 'club' … A club implies costs loadsadosh to join but can't remember why.
Not knocking it, just giving CG food for thought. He's too gutless to doing any critiquing right now though.
Also, I don't think the ski club and snowheads are in direct competition, as their packages are very different. Your biggest problem is the that at the core you seem to be bonded by a common hatred rather than ATOL.
Also, snowheads definitely claims to be a Ski Club.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
PJSki,
Quote:
CG will turn on snowHeads in the end.
Hmmm.. well CG might be flattered that he could turn Snowheads on, whether in the end or elsewhere. He certainly seems to have roused the the SCGB to a stand once or twice.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
sH gave up the SCGB hatred years ago. If there's any hatred (still), it comes from somewhere near where the wombles live.
It's not sH that are here poking at the fire.
It's not sH that are here with the express intention of provoking a response from one or more users.
Any what that's enough from me. Here's some food to take back under that bridge...
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
thirty06 wrote:
PJSki,
Quote:
CG will turn on snowHeads in the end.
Hmmm.. well CG might be flattered that he could turn Snowheads on, whether in the end or elsewhere. He certainly seems to have roused the the SCGB to a stand once or twice.
Have a read of this from admin:
Quote:
Really though - the closest to a positive comment that this topic has garnered is, "It's David's right to say it, just ignore him".
Yet, David's response appears to suggest that he thinks he has a balanced discussion going on here.
Perhaps David's skin really is too thick for reality to penetrate.
David, at best people are ignoring you, at worst they are infuriated by you.
I'm sorry, but whilst anyone is welcome to bring up any relevant topic on snowHeads, your 'sustained campaign' has gone beyond reasonable and beyond tiresome.
You and I have had a great many lengthy conversations, in person and by phone, about the internet, advertising, forums and snowHeads itself. IMO your view of these things when we first met lay somewhere between the crazy notions of the Nineties net-boom and a fantasy purely of your own design. We disagreed on many points some of which have since been proven. In every case, you have been proved wrong. However, instead of modifying your opinion to a 'more informed perspective', you have become entrenched in trying to prove, via what amounts to little more than bullying of the forum, a hypothesis which looks more and more ridiculous as time goes on.
As a result, you appear to have lost much of and are rapidly losing what remains of the great respect that this community once had for you.
You cling to the (oxymoronic?) principal of 'journalistic integrity' as if it were some form of idealistic panacea. You tell yourself that the flack you get is just the price you have to pay for having the courage to tell 'difficult truths' but I think it's time for you to try to stop kidding yourself: what you are doing at snowHeads is not journalism and is largely unwelcome, this is not the fall out that results from 'tough journalism' but the reaction of a community of people that just want you to 'lay off' and you are not 'courageously representing the minority interest' but simply your own.
To put it mildy, you have become the forum bore - which is very sad indeed when considering what you could be.
For (at least) the 20th time, snowHeads is not for sale. Not to the highest bidder, not to you, not to a 'consortium lead by you'. Furthermore, your consistent lack of understanding about the mechanisms at work within the forum and your dogged refusal to accept even the most obvious messages conveyed to you by its members would place you a very long way down the list indeed if I were looking for safe hands into which to place the forum.
I once recieved a polite offer from someone who wanted to buy snowHeads, he even gave me a figure. I politely declined and he politely accepted my decision with a typical "Get in touch if you change your mind" kind of message. He has not since pestered me or tried to sway public opinion against my wishes (because that wouldn't be very nice would it?).
Barring that occassion, you are the only one to ask for a share snowHeads' ownership; you are also the only person to have asked to be paid for posting on snowHeads; you are the only person to obsessively keep re-referancing the same 2 subjects of ownership and T+C's. I have been forced to the conclusion that these things must basically boil down to one subject, which is your desire to assert control over snowHeads and, failing the opportunity to dictate policy, you are instead attempting to dictate mood via sabotage.
I don't expect you to agree with my conclusion - after all, I don't think for a minute that you would do such a thing consciously but nevertheless this is perhaps the inevitable result of your determination not to face up to your own uncomfortable truths.
In Jan'05, David declared that he could not justify spending so much time on snowHeads without some remuneration and declared that he would stop posting items to the news column on Feb 5th (snowHeads' first anniversary) unless we had made some agreement to that effect by then.
His intitial request was that I pay him £20 per news item with an expectation of 10 items per week (£200 see, was I being mis-leading? ) Apparently this was far below the market rate for his work.
I told him snowHeads wasn't even bringing in that much and negotiations began, became a bit surreal and ended with David's declaration that if it were the case that snowHeads could not afford to pay him, snowHeads would be better off as a community owned thing.... well, u know the rest.
Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
PJSki, are you related to DG in some way?
Perhaps separated at birth?
Both of you show remarkably similar traits in this thread
Andy et al above are spot on, you have simply fed DG, if you hadn't participated in this thread it would have died last year, but thanks to your efforts it's not far off it's first birthday.
I feel sure you have been advised to rise above it but I guess you and DG are really inseparable
Anyway I guess you will be off Leading soon and so this thread will simply fade away.......
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
PJSki wrote:
Have a read of this from admin:
Written in 2006. Seven years ago. Things have probably moved on?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
- yes DG or CG , as the case may be, seems to spend all of his time posting here or on F ace book - must have won the lottery , come into an inheritance or robbed bank - certainly utterly unemployable and of very little value to anyone - 7 years ago or now !
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
- and before you mention it again, Scrumpy is a "given name" which adorns some of my clothing, jewellry and e-mail addresses - it is not made up for this website.
After all it is free
After all it is free
Scrumpy, he has time between bringing the ice cream out during intermission.
I know he was a bit off with you, but if you go and listen to his avalanche talk in Lewes you will see him in a different way.
I needed about 10 pints of Harvey's myself, and nearly fell in the river.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
Filthyphil30k,
Quote:
but if you go and listen to his avalanche talk in Lewes you will see him in a different way
ah yes - "lest we forget"
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Ski the Net with snowHeads
Quote:
.....certainly utterly unemployable and of very little value....
He appears to be writing a "substantial" book on weather leading up to the Lewes avalanche in 1836
FAQ
Poster: A snowHead
just means you are digging the SCGB grave faster.
, as the case may be, seems to spend all of his time posting here or on F ace book 
- must have won the lottery 
or robbed bank 
- certainly utterly unemployable and of very little value to anyone - 7 years ago or now !
