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Les Deux Alpes winter 2006-2007

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Trying to be positive.....would snow/thaw/freeze not be ideal for setting a base up lower down?
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Also the Village chair, but you do have to walk a little bit to get back to the skiing.


The village chair is also great for a bird's eve view of the end of the day strugglers negotiating the Valentin. Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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simonmj66, I have a little time available that week, but it's filling up fast!
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bh1, Belle Etoile is even better! Did you see the pic looking down the face that I actually took from the Village chair yesterday?

Now then folks: it's been snowing like mad since late morning, according to the famous hand in snow test 14cms of snow have settled on Chicken Dhansak's balcony! It's wet and heavy which is perfect. I do think most of this snow at village level will melt, but hopefully it will help the ground to freeze a bit more which will be good for the season in the long term. As I've said before - if you can't ski the face it really isn't the end of the world. there's lots of good skiing higher up, and the doom merchants have now had their noses put properly out of joint. It was just a pity that we couldn't ski today, given that Paul S and his friend Louise had driven up for 2 days ... Sad

Tomorrow should be better weather, so everyone and his wife will be trying to get onto the lifts early. We've also got a huge influx of Spanish, but I haven't contacted metalhead 132 or Al-Tom yet.
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easiski, i went up the luateret in the end with liam, it was chucking it down, just a shame that it still isn't getting to the valley. hey ho maybe fridays\s storm!
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snowangel., I think it's got a bit stuck on our side of the mountain - often happens one way or the other. theremust be snow on your higher elevations though, and it must be possible to ski in SC without having to ski back down to the valley.

How is Liam's leg? I gather he's actually been on his snowboard from another post you made - do let us know.
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easiski, leg is good, bit sore at times but good! He rode on sunday for the first time and yesterday i found some balls and did the picnic table with him, and actualy managed to slide it Very Happy LOL

it looks lovely here this morning, very very good coverage on the top and coming down now to about 1600m (pic in serre che thread) there is lots of frost everywhere which is also good. lower level snow however is already starting to melt but its only a thin covering.

as to ride but not ride down, they dont generally do that here, but maybe this year they will hvae to! might be seeing you a lot in 2 alpes this year! Laughing
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snowangel., Looks good here this morning. sunny and snow everywhere. Of course it's purely cosmetic here in town, but they're saying 30cms at 2,100m! Very Happy I shall be going up shortly, but here's a pic to be going on with
Very Happy Very Happy
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easiski, nice! ski safe have a good one
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easiski,
thanks for the coffee yesterday, and the lesson today, much appreciated. As you know, we got slightly wet and depressed yesterday morning, but when the snow started falling.... and then kept falling.... Very Happy
Glad we stayed, as the conditions were great. Now, when the local slope here gets more snow, I'll practice the "monkey turn" (technical, eh?) and stop waving my arms about!
Cheers, Paul
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PaulS, Very Happy I think you got home sooner than I did!

So, as Paul said we had a great day. Fab snow (still the odd rock hiding under it, but nothing major), all runs between 2,600m and 3,200m were open. All glacier runs were open with the exception of the Lauze (top) and the Dome (red into Roche Mantel/Signal). At 2,600m all three main runs in the toura area were open and served by the Lac Noir chairlift. Below 2,600 the runs were "officially" closed - that is there were banners across the piste (but no fences) saying "closed". However it was a comfortable ski down to the Cretes, and when I went past they were running the Bellecombe chair in preparation. Both the Cretes chairlifts were running too, so regardless of how horrid it is tomorrow I think bits will be open. Also White and Red eggs running today in addition to the Jandri Express and the Village chair/telepherique. some idiots did ski/snowboard down, but they must have done a lot of damage, especially as they all seemed to use Sapins, which is the rockiest descent of the lot! That's not mentioning the Catalans we saw trying to get down the "L'Envers du Signal" (the red off the back of the top of the Signal chair), which was basically a lovely rock piste with some soft snow over the top ...... the noise was truly horrible to hear! Shocked Shocked
Here are some photos:
Rachas showing some small avalanches
Sustrugi on the top of the Grand Couloir shows how high the wind was yesterday
The glacier, showing fresh tracks on the right - we skied that
View looking up to the glacier from the top of the Grand Creux run at the Toura level.

Now I defy anyone to moan about this!!! rolling eyes rolling eyes
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I forgot to say that I had first a nice coffee with Davina Turner after skiing (from SC) and then a nice shandy with Metalhead132 and his brothers (one is AlTom and their many friends. Brilliant - lots of fun! I might go for a little ski with them on Saturday if the weather improves as promised. Very black clouds over behind La MUzelle suggesting that the forecasts for more snow tomorrow are right! Very Happy Felt very guilty for making them speak English though - sadly I have not one word of Catalan, but now know "salut". Very Happy
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what dreadful pics, truely it's too warm for skiing then Wink

Glad you had a good day Very Happy
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kitenski, too warm? Well unless the whole of Europe decends into one or two glacier resorts the answer is yes.
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lisach, don't get your knickers in a twist about a late start to the season; this time last year the season was off to a great start (almost too good a start) and it could well be the same next year. NehNeh NehNeh
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bh1, what are you basing that statement on?
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bh1, Exactly

lisach, Based on skiing down to 1600m at the end of November - lots of early snow. Our winters don't normally start until December. Not long ago (4 or 5 years) it didn't snow at all until 28th December. It's ABSOLUTELY FINE! kitenski, was joking - winkie smilie??!! wink wink wink wink

It seems to be raining lightly down here are the moment (I haven't been out), but it will be snowing where it really matters. The more we can open above the Cretes the better. They have pisted the Bellecombe run, and the Grand Nord bis so if the whole Grand Nord area is open after the next snowfall (today), we'll be laughing.

Just spoken to a friend in Val Despair, and he says it's very bad there. Le Fornet only, nothing else more than 5cms fresh whereas we had 30cms at 2,100 and 40 at the glacier. Very Happy Very Happy I keep saying, we get our weather from the SW and that's also the warm wind ..... brings us snow ... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Easiski,

Comforting words of wisdom, especially as my 14th Dec departure date lurks on the horizon. the Snow Gods have spoken to me in a dream and there will be snow!!!
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bh1, what are you basing that statement on?


On last year's snowfall. Laughing Laughing Laughing snowHead snowHead snowHead
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But last year buy the middle of January it was very thin again.
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easiski, looks and sounds good. This afternoon and evening's dump looks like another good 30cm+ above 2000m, although it will probably rain and then turn to snow in the village.

All set up for a fantastic weekend, Sunday should be an absolute cracker Very Happy

Should be 3-4 days at or below freezing from Saturday as well, so hopefully cannon weather ...
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Frosty the Snowman, Actually, the cover is better this year than last year in terms of skiability, but is less widespread. ie: last year more runs were open but this year, on the runs that are open the conditions are better.

brian, At the end of the day, if it's warm, we can work on the glacier - also the rope tow at 2,600 for beginners. There are options other than the nursery slopes - OK not as ideal, but not impossible.

It really was good yesterday, but looks vile today. The wind is now high in the town, and what was working before seems to have stopped. good day not to go out on! Very Happy
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Sunday is supposed to be the day to ski. Pity we have this awful high wind again. Still I think a 99 quid holiday in les Deux Alpes next week would be good value.
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davidof, I don't think anyone could be disappointed in this area at the moment unless they were a "traveller"! Looks really grim at the Cretes now and blowing a hooley (sp?) Shame about that, but it is blowing into a lot of the pistes. Very Happy Very Happy I'm just sorry for the guys who are here at the moment and aren't able to go up today - they making a bl**dy aweful noise upstairs! rolling eyes
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davidof, high wind on the lauteret too, hopefully blowing all the snow to serre che, but knowing our luck probalby not rolling eyes
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Meteo France (as translated by Bill Gates et al! Twisted Evil ).

Its also actually for Alpe Duez but hey....

N38071211
INFORMATION SNOWS AND AVALANCHE of ISERE
(valid out of the marked and opened tracks)
written on Thursday December 7
starting from reduced information
SNOW CONDITIONS:
IN THE COURSE OF IMPROVEMENT
Snowing up is always weak and overdrawn for the season but the situation will continue to improve with the disturbance which arrives in evening of this Friday.
While waiting, the limit of snowing up is in the neighbourhoods of 1400m this Thursday morning.
It is necessary to go up around 2400 m to have a snow cover with underlayer.
Height of total snow at these altitudes this Thursday: 30 to 50 cm in the sheltered sectors of the wind.
The many episodes of strong wind of southern sector made snowing up very irregular and even with 3000m continuous snowing up is not always continuous.

ESTIMATE OF THE RECENT FALLS OF SNOW:
The last falls go back to Wednesday. They gave between 10 and 15 cm of snow between 1500 and 1800m and 20 to 25 cm above 2200m. The wind blew of various directions during this fall.

STATE OF SNOW EC THURSDAY DECEMBER 7:
Snow fallen Wednesday quickly packs this Thursday because of the rise in temperature until worms 2500m. The wind of south will create transport as from this night of Thursday at Friday and all the day of Friday. New accumulations will thus be formed in the sheltered zones of the wind of south.
The underlayer, when it exists, is made up either of a little cold snow, or of snow without much cohesion at high altitude, like on the sheltered slopes north of the wind, or of snow hardened in lower part of 2400 with 2700m and until more 3000m in southern slopes.

TENDENCY FOR THE NEXT DAYS:
Beautiful improvement Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Fresh snow should not make forget the safety requirements.. Attention thus with the risk to start a plate or an unstable accumulation at very high altitude where the underlayer will not have undergone the wind of the south and can have a low cohesion...
Weather:
Friday, day of wind of strong south in front of the disturbance awaited for the end of afternoon. The small layer of snow of Wednesday should disappear until around 1800 m even a little higher.
In the course of night of Friday to Saturday, passage of a very active disturbance which will approximately give 30 to 40 centimetres of snow Razz above 2000m. The snow line , towards 1900m at the beginning of episode, will go down towards 1000m at the end of the night. Natural departures of avalanches are possible during the falls of snow because the quantity of awaited snow is important.
Saturday, cold time (isothermal 0 degree towards 1200m) with north wind. Some downpours of snow are envisaged on Préalpes and Belledonne whereas breaks develop in the south on Oisans and Large-Russet-red. Transport of snow by the wind and formation of accumulations and plates which could be dangerous at high altitude, above approximately 2400 m where the underlayer is locally fragile.
Sunday, continuation of the improvement. Cloudy sun and passages with less wind of north and temperatures which remain normally fresh.
Monday, still a little more sun.
This information will be renewed at the latest on Monday December 11
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simonmj66, Well - I had a good giggle reading that translation! I'm particularly struck by the "underlayer" and also by "Large-Russet-Red!" Wonderful stuff. Sad that we already knew most of it from my photos and observations. Shock

I can confirm that we had "strong south", and that the "disturbance" has indeed appeared! Shocked If we get another 30-40cms of snow it will really help enormously. It might even allow them to open Fee, Gours and Combe du Thuit. However all these depend on being able to ski to the bottom of the Combe du Thuit ski lifts which are at around 1800m, so quite low. OTOH it's a valley, and if the snow blows in ... Very Happy
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simonmj66, Well - I had a good giggle reading that translation! I'm particularly struck by the "underlayer" and also by "Large-Russet-Red!" Wonderful stuff. Sad that we already knew most of it from my photos and observations. Shock



If you are interested we do an automated translation that, while not perfect, is better than that from the online translation tools

http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Avalanches/Isere-Avalanche-Bulletin
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Hi all
Can anyone tell me if the reason that so few lifts are open is because of the wind or is it the lack of snow?
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easiski Great pics - looking forward to LDA on the 23rd Dec.
simonmj66 Stunning translation!! I hope my bank balance doesn't just resemble snowing up - "Snowing up is always weak and overdrawn for the season" - but also proves the forecast correct - "but the situation will continue to improve with the disturbance which arrives in evening of this Friday" - if I'd read this earlier I'd have bought a lottery ticket!!! Laughing Laughing
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Looks like I may not shred the bases of my new Missions in January, then Toofy Grin
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Blizt, easiski It tickled me too - couldn't deciphor Large-Russet-Red until davidof stepped in!! Sad Puzzled Toofy Grin
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Just to keep you all in the picture, these are early morning shots from the balcony:



ianshep, Yesterday no lifts were running because of very high winds and a major storm. Basically they're running all the lifts that serve pistes that are officially open. But as there isn't by any means a full resort, for instance where the Lac Noir serves Toura, Lac Noir and Grand Creux runs, whereas Toura only serves Toura and boarder cross. Therefore they're only running the Lac Noir lift. Not all the summer lifts are working, but most were - they usually only run Snowpark and Puy Salié + train. 8 man chair has been running one or the other half according to the wind and weather. No need to do whole for access, only about 5 mins at Jandri Express 2. Fee is not open and neither is Combe de Thuit, therefore none of those lifts are running (very low see yesterday's post). Super Diable was not open, but I should think there's a chance today. Bellecombe ditto. High wind may have scoured the path from the top of Super Diable to 2,600 though. No need (sadly) to run Belle Etoile chairlift yet. Pied Moutet area is not open. Nursery slopes not open. OK?

I don't know how much has fallen higher up, but as it was snowing all day, and it rained down here until dusk, it must be shedloads! Very Happy
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easiski,

This looks really encouraging. If I had any leave left I'd be on the first Easyjet flight to London to take advantage of one of those £99.00 deals!!
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It's snowing again now - very leisurly with big flakes just floating around. I won't go up today (looks nasty high up). It does look as though it hasn't stopped snowing at altitude though. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Chalence, Chalence, 'ere we come, 'ere we come --- well, if the weather keeps doing its thing unitl the back end of January Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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