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You all deseverve a pat on the back for the cow jokes, but perhaps someone should angus a sign up saying the temeprature isn't friesian yet.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Pull the udder one |
...It's got bells on 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| davidof wrote: |
| These ski runs will be visible until the next ice age. |
Excellent! Think of the conditions!
The post apocalyptic mad max like search for a functioning lift system will only make it more exciting
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@8611 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| FIRSTOFTHEGIANTS wrote: |
| Pull the udder one. |
Isn't it pasture bed time?? 
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The weather gods are smirking, not quite smiling at me yet, 3 different local forecasts show a good amount of snow in Passo Tonale, with the favoured site form their webpage showing snow on 7 of the next 14 days. Few more days until the first is forecast on Saturday, but nearly some light at the end of the tunnel. Just under 3 weeks til departure. Will all this stress and worry have been for nothing??????
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we need an update from Noza - he knows whats going on
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we need an update from Noza - he knows what's going on
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Met office 30 day forecast continues the same theme as the last 2 months. It's not suggesting any significant pattern change out to 25th Jan with wetter and generally milder than average conditions for the UK and the Atlantic firmly in control.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast
Hope its wrong !
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I'm snow dancing away here.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Keep 'em coming Noza boy - from what I can see from various sites I look at, it tallies with King Noza, in that its getting cold with snow of varying amounts - all the sites have been consistant on this for days - just the amount of precipitation varies and will continue to vary until about 1 day before it comes, when the weather centres are pretty spot on - lets hope it goes large
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You know it makes sense.
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Hoping it hits the Skiwelt region as well. East Austria doesnt seem to be getting as much as the western alps....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Point sur l'enneigement from Meteo France...
http://www.meteofrance.fr/actualites/31741867-point-sur-l-enneigement-naturel-dans-les-massifs-francais-au-23-decembre-2015
- Very sunny and mild November and December. The last 10 days of November representing the only real winter over the last two months.
- On sunny slopes the snowline is frequently up to 2000m, between 2800-3000m in the southern Alps.
- Northern Alps are between 40%-70% below where you would anticpate for mid December.
- Southern Alps are between 70%-90% below average. A one in ten year event.
- Pyrenees are below average at either end of the chain, but close to normal in the Centre and l'Ariège.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@nozawaonsen, thanks for the updates. Will wax up the skis in anticipation 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@nozawaonsen. Could you please post the graph which gives squiggly lines for snowfall for les contermines. Many thanks. 
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@jbob, @harrymac, you can see the extent of the "spike" in precipitation on the op run in that chart from 04-06 January and also the rise in temperatures. This would be stormy weather being driven into the western Alps. A lot of snow at altitude (above 1800m) in the western Alps if it played out that way, but heavy rain lower down. Stormy weather does look likely on that date, but a week away the detail is still shaping up. ECM sees next week very unsettled (snowy at times) in the Alps, but less mild.
The chart below shows accumulated rain/snow across Europe based on WRF between now and early Saturday morning (ie well before the period above).
A few things worth noting (though of course this can still change).
- Most of the northern Alps get 5-20cms of snow. The French Alps profit most and some areas may get over 20cms locally.
- Southern Alps are looking like getting more like 5cms though a few places may get up to 10cms.
[EDIT] - Pyrenees could get up to 40cms in some places thanks to snowfall mainly on Friday/Saturday, though being further out this is less certain [EDIT].
- This looks like arriving in the French Alps around lunchtime on Thursday and should reach the Tirol later on Thursday evening/night and clear Salzburgerland on Friday afternoon.
- Another band of snow is reaching into the southern French Alps on Saturday breakfast time.
Looking at the UK on the map above you can see some particularly lurid colours to the north and west (some places look like they could receive another 100mm of rain). The major source of this is heavy rain arriving late tomorrow evening and intensifying through Wednesday morning and afternoon. There look like being strong winds as well. None of this any good for those places hoping to recover from recent flooding.
Worth adding that GFS, ECM and UKMO all hint at colder outcomes for the UK next week which would make a change (although at this stage just hints).
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Mon 28-12-15 22:32; edited 2 times in total
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| Gaza wrote: |
@Whitegold, given that at this time last year there was much less in EK open I find that surprising.
The next week or so will be interesting. If there is no significant snowfall then the "but it's early season" arguments will start to ring hollow. We will then move on to those due to go in February half term as this will start to get anxious; especially given the hugely inflated prices that are commanded at that time. |
Gaza -- It's already 20-40% of the way through the Alps' ski season (by days / revenue / profit), and bookings are down across the Alps, so it seems certain the season is not going to be a vintage one for most businesses in the region.
Looks like the jetstream is going to come to the rescue next week and provide some relief for January. What the French and others need to do is permanently change Christmas to January 25th, lol.
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I am enjoying my almost non-skiing ski holiday. Did a few hikes, Christmas market, swimming pool, thermal baths, skinned couple mornings and skied maybe 12 runs in 9 days. It's actually less stressful this way too, I would be tired now if conditions were good from constant rushing, queuing and non-stop skiing. As it is now, the flat gets cleaned and shopping gets done without any rush whatsoever. If next week is snowy, it would be a dream holiday.
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Businesses are doing OK round my bit of the Alps. The resort is rammed this week, the restaurants and shops full. The skiing was limited but OK Christmas week but far too busy on the limited pistes to even consider joining them now. doesn't look like an economic disaster to me and this is the second week of a 16 week season.
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Definitely doesn't look like an economic disaster, resort is busy, can't tell how exactly full, but buzzing as usually at this time of the year and car parks are full. I picked up a mate from GVA airport yesterday, Geneva was dreadful, grey and foggy, actually everywhere from Lausanne was grey and foggy. Skiing aside it's amazing to be in the mountains at this time.
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| Whitegold wrote: |
| What the French and others need to do is permanently change Christmas to January 25th, lol. |
It is all the fault of the southern Europeans for when they adopted the Gregorian calendar. Now they are reaping the whirlwind of having Christmas in early December.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just create a new holiday! Christmas was created by the Rothschild bank to further plunge the average working person further into debt and the clutches of the banks!!
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@danmar94 lol is u for real?
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You know it makes sense.
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And now the weather sites are saying the whole lot misses passo tonale. I'm sick of this #@$#. I have to try to accept I will be skiing on some crappy man made strip of sugary frozen nonsense. 25cm forecast for Saturday an hour ago just vanished.
Glencoe isn't even open to soften the blow. Feck you weather god. Feck you.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@drvosjecha, yes
@scotspikey, start a snow dance, you might get lucky!
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Poster: A snowHead
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@danmar I'm past dancing. I'm actually getting fecking angry. I'm, ironically, having a meltdown.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Don't take it as being a concrete forecast just yet, @nozawaonsen might pull one out the hat for you yet!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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As I've mentioned a few times as the pattern shifts the initial snowfall looks like it will benefit the northern side of the Alps and the west in particular.
But some snow early next week looks more likely to push across into the south (including Passo Tonale). That's still evolving mind you.
18z GFS drops the mild storm next Tuesday. Less snow in the western Alps than the 12z suggested, but much lower snow line.
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Don't take these numbers too seriously (this will change), but this is how 18z GFS sees out till next Tuesday.
Heavier snow to the western end of the Alps, reaching down towards Serre Chevalier, and largely the northern side of the Alps.
But as I said at the top don't invest too much in the numbers one way or another.
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It seems like all the major storms are missing the east of pyrenees (Andorra) and according to GFS there is also some rain for next week. At least temperatures will drop a little and the canons can work.
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@nozawaonsen, Noza is without doubt the greatest person I have ever not met.
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In @nozawaonsen we TRUST 
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Hi I've got a quick possibly stupid question!
The long range forecasts, around 7-10 days out always seem to forecast more snow than actually arrives... Is this due to over zealous predictions or can the numbers go up as well as down?
I've seen snow forecasts for my resort change from 10cm to 2cm but I've never seen 2cm change into 10cm if that makes sense!
Thanks
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| Jones82 wrote: |
Hi I've got a quick possibly stupid question!
The long range forecasts, around 7-10 days out always seem to forecast more snow than actually arrives... Is this due to over zealous predictions or can the numbers go up as well as down?
I've seen snow forecasts for my resort change from 10cm to 2cm but I've never seen 2cm change into 10cm if that makes sense!
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This question gets asked regularly but I'm still not 100% as to the answer. I'm pretty sure that the forecast does in fact equally go in either direction but as humans we only remember the negative shifts and therefore perceive these as more common. I do know for sure that many times whilst in resort no snow has been forecast and I've woken up to a solid 6".
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@Snow Hound,
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I do know for sure that many times whilst in resort no snow has been forecast and I've woken up to a solid 6".
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Can't help what you dream about.
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