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Me too it was really good 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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yes prob the best one so far this season 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The piece on climbing the Hannenkahm (?sp) was very interesting, interspersed with shots of crashes. Also summer in the Alps generally - good for the region, so few people are aware of the different world that exists the rest of the year. I wish Ed had won the race too. It's those cameramen who have the hardest time - especially if Graham Bell is going to be rude about their skiing abilities!! And some super impressive downhill runs. Good entertainment.
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ickabodblue, at least it wasnt a Top Gear set up race, where they organise to make a tight finish and therfore it becomes un-informative.
Forgot how bad Scott McCartney's fall in Kitzbuhel was.
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| Christopher wrote: |
| ickabodblue, at least it wasnt a Top Gear set up race, where they organise... |
...a minibus full of chalet girls to turn up and give you a lift just when you need one 
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they'll have just been on there way to pick up the groceries from Bourg st. Maurice! merely a coincidence!
Im sure the race wasnt fixed to such an extent the top gear ones are and how obvious they make it in top gear.
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I enjoyed tonight's much more than the rest of the season.
At least the celebrity could actually ski this time, and Tara-Palmer next week should be good.
I also never thought the multi-purpose snowboard/ski things would be up to much before seeing it tonight.
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| Christopher wrote: |
| they'll have just been on there way to pick up the groceries from Bourg st. Maurice! merely a coincidence! |
Hmmm - maybe they were on the way to BSM, since it's *past* Villaroger from Tignes
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Very good programme. Was intrigued to see the split board used for touring.
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Certainly the best one so far. Colin Jackson impressed. Only four years skiing - if he's only skiied once a year I'll be seriously impressed. Nice to have seen the start hut of the Hahnenkam, I had my picture taken outside it last Easter (we can all dream). If anyone is going to Kitzbuhel and is interested in the race there is a really good museum relating its history on the first floor of the Hahnenkam restaurant at the top of the mountain.
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Fergus, As long as Tara doesn't stop for a sneaky one on the way down 
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You know it makes sense.
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Watched it with keen interest as usual.
I think the tag of it being part of 'BBC sport' polarizes opinion:
One the one hand, skiing and boarding are based around a competetive element, as proven by C4's coverage (which shouldn't be, in the main, dedicated to late-night programming) and it's fair to say that the 'sporting' side of it (racing) has been neglected by the beeb.
But on the other, as someone's already pointed out, the general masses who go skiing and boarding aren't going to compete, just to enjoy a holiday in the same way we love sitting on beaches, and that's what Ski Sunday is trying to capitalise on.
Personally, as I've said before, the program could well be exteded to 90 mins and cover more of the racing element, but the sad fact is there's only so much airtime and they have an hour, that's it.
When the new format took hold I was unsure of GB's trek through the Alps. However, with tonight's instalment seeing the end of his trip, I was sad to see that bit finish - I could watch much, much more about the culture and the history of alpine sports.
As a program it fits in beautifully in the BBC2 Sunday evening programming: SS first, then Capricorn and then Monty Don garden thing (not to mention the highly entertaining 'Hidalgo' beforehand) - I've never been so interested in such a varied set of programs before. The BBC has hit it spot-on for the majority and unfortuanetly for the race lovers out there, that means travel-based TV. The on-piste Vs off-piste challenge in tonight's show was a prime example of making great TV out of something you wouldn't nesseccarily find that interesting. I bet non-skiers/boarders watched that and though 'wow!' and let's face it, the vast majority of license fees come from non-skiers and boarders.
I'd love to see the race side of things get back to a mid-day slot like we used to have; loads of racing coverage through the day when David Vine was the voice of SS. Why not do that and have a 'travel' programme int he evening to appeal to the masses. It's the slot thing again – there are only so many.
I'll be sad to see SS go but at least there is still some winterpsorts coverage on TV - we'd be cheesed off if there was sweet FA woudn't we? Let's enjoy what we have...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| achilles wrote: |
| Very good programme. Was intrigued to see the split board used for touring. |
I bought one this year and they are pretty good (but expensive). Used a couple of times on the cairngorms now.
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Poster: A snowHead
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prog99, how does it compare for touring with an 'ordinary' snowboard that would otherwise be used? It looks an attractive option to snowboard + snow shoes. Does it perform well as a snowboard?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've found this style of Ski Sunday fascinating. There doesn't seem to be a lot of racing, but if you wait to the end of the program, assuming you have freeview or Sky, hit the red button and you get a full hour long coverage of the racing. That seems to offer the best of both worlds.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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As others have commented, I felt last nights programme was the best of the series so far.
Seeing the Hannenkan (?sp) in it's summer state, and not rushing by when tracking a racer was fascinating. Some parts of it are seriously steep, even on the traverses. One thing struck me - GB had to cross several wire fences as he went up the route, and these looked to be well established (weather worn wooden posts etc.). Do these fences get removed for the winter, say after the cows are brought off the mountain, or do they stay and the snow base need to be enough to cover them?
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| achilles wrote: |
| prog99, how does it compare for touring with an 'ordinary' snowboard that would otherwise be used? It looks an attractive option to snowboard + snow shoes. Does it perform well as a snowboard? |
I was a bit unsure at first and the first few turns I did felt a bit "weird". I'm putting that down to your bindings being raised up by around a cm. But once I got into the groove I fairly blasted down from the top of cairngorm yesterday (well almost the top).
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been away for a couple of days and have just watched this weeks ski sunday, definatley the best one yet, real respect to the guy on the uphill tour.
only point not made is that colin jackson may have only skied for four years, but he skis up to 30 days a year in gstadd and other places 
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| jmdohanlon wrote: |
As others have commented, I felt last nights programme was the best of the series so far.
Seeing the Hannenkan (?sp) in it's summer state, and not rushing by when tracking a racer was fascinating. Some parts of it are seriously steep, even on the traverses. One thing struck me - GB had to cross several wire fences as he went up the route, and these looked to be well established (weather worn wooden posts etc.). Do these fences get removed for the winter, say after the cows are brought off the mountain, or do they stay and the snow base need to be enough to cover them? |
Hi,
Yes the fences get put up at the end of the winter season and taken down before the winter starts. The ski piste are totally unrecognised in the summer. They all have cattle on or are used for hay making. Also there are usually loads of streams running over the runs and up where they filmed ( which is just behind us) they move snow to fill in the gaps to make a smooth piste.
We live in Mühlbach and often ski up where GB was and the hotel does excellent food.
Nigel
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prog99, interesting, thanks.
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As the average recreational skier I like it for the variety as opposed to endless racing. Most of all my kids look forward to it ( including the one who does race ) and we all watch it together ( a rare feat only otherwise achieved by " Dr Who " ) .
With the racing on C4 I am glad it is not just the same but without the adverts.
The race from Tignes ( piste v off piste ) . the walk across the Alps , ski/boarding in Morocco etc etc are diverse and I think interesting aspects of ski/boarding.
No doubt it can and will be refined but it makes a good change from racing.
John
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djfletcher, thanks for the explanation.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Fergus wrote: |
I enjoyed tonight's much more than the rest of the season.
At least the celebrity could actually ski this time, and Tara-Palmer next week should be good.
I also never thought the multi-purpose snowboard/ski things would be up to much before seeing it tonight. |
It'll be interesting to see TP on the white stuff!!!!
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thefatcontroller,
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think you will find Mr J only skis once a year...............................but for 3 months at a time.
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Exactly. He was featured on Ski Sunday last year in a piece on skiing in Japan and he looked quite tidy through the powder
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Me smells a rat how did htey not know the Vaoisoine express was closed when every other skier in the world did 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ordhan, agree. The Beeb wouldn't embark on such a venture without the assistance of the local tourist boards... who will have told them. The "race" was clearly very staged - Bell started off with a pair of skier cross skis that magically turned into a pair of GS... the so-called "wager" was struck in the presence of the very guides that they used and Bell's camera men we're not too slick on their boards so he would have had to go at their pace.
Still quite an entertaining hour though. Just wish Mr Bell would stop constantly reminding us that he was once a DH racer. Thought the ending of his "trek" was all a bit corny.
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| Ordhan wrote: |
| Me smells a rat how did htey not know the Vaoisoine express was closed when every other skier in the world did |
There are probably more skiers who are not aware of that fact than who are.
Most skiers don't read sites such as this one, or even the ski magazines - and the news was only in the last copies of those that I saw.
And that was probably filmed quite a few weeks ago - possibly only just after it was decided to close it.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Alex totally agree that not everyone spends all day on But here you have two guys drinking with two GUIDES in a bar I AM PRETTY SURE THE GUIDES WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE LIFT WAS CLOSED? Made for good tv all the same but a little silly
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Ordhan, Very true.
But then I imagine all of these "challneges" are very staged.
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Yes have to say I actually enjoyed last nights show especially Austria during the summer really shows the countrys character.
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thefatcontroller, The guide was almost as cute as Ed. It really is becoming compulsive viewing!
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