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Looks like they are optimistic about the lifts - this is from today's pdf:
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Due to the landslides on August 16, 2024, the buildings of two cable car facilities
(Rendlbahn valley station and Zammermoosbahn valley station) were slightly damaged.
Thanks to the very dedicated efforts of the employees, volunteers, and specialist
companies, these damages have already been partially repaired or will be repaired in the
coming weeks, ensuring safe cable car operation for the upcoming winter season.
The Rendlbahn will resume summer operations after the cleanup work at the bus terminal is
completed, probably from next Wednesday, August 28, 2024.
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So much for the forum-drama…. 
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Hey Folks,,, a contributor over on the German Forum has hiked up the Hoher Riffler and taken some spectacular zoom fotos .
Steißbachtal (Happy/Crappy Valley) has been really transformed by the 100000's of cubic metres and quite a few metres in depth...
of fallen debris
https://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5445589&sid=3fecc96357ac97d45c8c82b68c0d34a0#p5445589
Zammermoosbahn has been on the list of renewal/replacements (for some seasons as the ground is moving and the lift is now over 30 years old ..Anyone remember the 2 man lift before ??  .. It was rumoured to be moved to the old site of the Feldherrenhügel (T Bar) ..
However, I think the Lift Company is going to something a bit clever when they renew..
Removing the Mattunbahn (Slow fixed 4 man Chair) on Gampen.
Then maybe a Gondola from Gampen over the Steißsbachtal ravine with a middle Station somewhere (either where Zammermoosbahn base is now or the old Feldherrenhügel base and then continue upto Galzig and move people both ways between Galzig & Gampen.
This will really help to distribute the client capacity over the hills ...
Mattunbahn is largely a redundant lift as it not utilised at all in comparison with other lifts (its slow).
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The lift Company is Very Late this Year with Releasing Lift Ticket Prices.. Other areas have already released some weeks/months ago.
I do not blame tourists for making travel arrangements to go to alternative destinations as nowadays tourist folks need to know well in advance (months) what to budget for (flights,Hotels, Lift passes) and not wait for nasty surprises (from the lift company)
The Arlberg Prices should be released next week..
If you want an approximation (comparison) indication look at the Ischgl Silvretta Ski Pass Prices for next Season
https://www.ischgl.com/en/winter/operating-times-prices/skipass-prices-silvretta
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Pettneu
Major damage after debris flow near Pettneu, alpine pasture is cut off
After more Heavy Rain.
The mudslide, which occurred in Malfon on Thursday evening at around 7.30 p.m., has caused considerable damage. At least two bridges were completely destroyed. The alpine pasture is currently not accessible on the road.
Around 60 people were stranded in the Malfontal at the Edmund-Graf-Hütte
https://www.meinbezirk.at/landeck/c-lokales/neuerlicher-murenabgang-nach-unwetter_a6869587
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000234498/erneut-murenabgang-nahe-arlberg-in-tirol-schutzbauten-hielten
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Replacing Zamermoosbahn & Mattunbahn with a gondola having a middle station about where the current Zamermoosbahn valley station is would make sense. It would solve the Steissbachtal "issue" and the runs down from Gampen are probably easier than the lower part of Zamermoos which can be a struggle for some especially in soft snow. I would assume few issues getting planning permission as replacing lifts rather than building new ones and less issues than the suggested piste down from St Christoph. Only minor negative is that chairs are generally preferable to gondolas though the Mattunbahn is old fashioned enough that you have to be careful not to get bruised calves!
Looks like Steisbachtal might be a bit wider next season though whether the snow canons will work properly must be doubtful
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Dumb question, in Meribel last year Saturday was the best day to ski as it is changeover day so nice and empty, I assumed it'd still be the case in St.Anton/Arlberg. My assumption may be wrong though as there is a train station in resort I imagine there may be plenty who live in local areas who will come on over? Is there particular days of the week quietest in St Anton? (for life admin purposes)
My Visa meeting at the embassy is in 10 days - Wish me luck!
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In my years of experience in St. Anton, including Saturday skiing, which I try to include in travel plans, Saturday slopes are much quieter than other days.
However, most accommodation in b and bs is usually based on Saturday to Saturday, so can be difficult to get Saturday ski day. No doubt the top end hotels would be better at that.
You could arrive early Saturday morning and depart a week later Saturday evening.
But Saturday skiing is worth trying to arrange in St. Anton.
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I do weekends, arrive Friday evening leave Sunday afternoon, Saturday is almost always quieter than Sunday. Most of the time (a few public holidays excluded) day trip skiers have little impact on how busy it feels.
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Saturday skiing is easier if you drive to resort. You can be organised to "ski from the car" on the arrival Saturday and leave after lifts close the following Saturday, getting a good number of miles towards home before bed time. That can mean you encounter less busy roads on the way up and down, too. I have no idea how practicable that is in St Anton but it can give you two nice quiet extra ski days in a week's holiday.
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Winter is coming
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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A YouTuber did a review of the price of ski passes around Europe.... Is the Arlberg one of the latest announced season pass price places in Europe?! Any prediction when the new price will be out?
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Also my visa is approved! So it seems like Brits can get a tourist visa to ski after all, they just make it as difficult/confusing as possible
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You know it makes sense.
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@Thew2002, Well done, hope you enjoy your ski season
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Thew2002, Congrats,
I imagine the price delay relates to the whole kerfuffle about local prices not being allowed anymore (see the othe thread), but last year was 1100 or so.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Thew2002, nice! How long does that give you and how difficult did it turn out to be, how many hoops did you need to jump through?
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They have given me the exact dates for which my accommodation covers (last year France gave me a blanket 6 months) which is just shy of 5 months. However I assume I will have the normal Schengen allowance of 90 days on top of this allowance? As such I am already considering doing a week earlier in Ischgl and the final two weeks in Ischgl for when St Anton is closed.... Does this make logical sense? I feel while I'm already in that part of the world it's a fun thing to do, and my friend will have the car so it's just the challenge of finding cheap accommodation then, and considering buying an extra season pass which seems a bit mad - but basically 2 weeks skiing covers it...
No major hoops besides bringing lots of documents to the embassy, bank statements, rental agreements, flights in and out (out is particularly dumb as no way I'd be buying it this far away!), medical insurance for the whole period.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Thew2002, Not certain but think the 90 day thing will only apply to countries outside of Austria. I believe if you have a visa you need to enter using that, so there will be a record (especially if the EES thing is running then) even if you fly into Zürich or Munich. Same will apply on departure. Of course there is no record of where you go post entry so you could be in Germany say. However there will be a record at the Gemeinde in St Anton and maybe it will get picked up after registering in Ischgl. I cant see anyone spotting this at the time but it might jeopardise your chances of getting another visa.
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Hmmm how odd. In France I tried to get my visa 'activated' last year but the staff in the airport were baffled and were insistent I didn't actually have to do anything. It all felt a bit amateur tbh.
The 90 days Schengen rule should apply in my opinion, I'm not sure why it wouldn't? It's not like a seperate rule would exist for Austria despite have a visa D for it. Chatgpt agrees with my logic at least... So in effect I can basically stay in Austria 11 months (90 days Schengen before visa D, then 5 months visa D, then 90 days schengen after visa D).
I'm happy to hear other opinions in case I am completely misunderstanding!
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@Thew2002,
You must be wealthy ...or at least you will need to be to stay the whole season in St Anton without work..
The working skibums and local will pickup on this quite quickly ..
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@Thew2002, Not sure I would use chatgpt as a reliable source of information here. I believe that having an Austrian visa means that the visa waiver 90 days thing no longer applies for Austria but would for the rest of Schengen. The same applies in other countries if for example you are a UK citizen resident in Germany the 90 day thing still applies outside of Germany. I would be a bit careful if you want another visa next year if the Austrian believe you "overstayed" they wont give you another one
From the Austrian Interior Ministry site
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Visa D, national visa, are subject to national legislation and which entitles the holder to stay in Austria for a period of 91 days up to six months. They can be issued for single or multiple entries.
A Visa D also entitles the holder to move about in the territory of the other Schengen member states for up to 90 days per period of 180 days, given that the holder has a valid travel document and fulfils the entry requirements according to the Schengen Border Code. |
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I'm pretty sure it is a seperate UK visa which allows the 90 days in the shengen zone though? It isn't via the visa D that I'm using that... It's so annoying this stuff confuses me so stuff, and clearly the embassy are useless as they originally rejected me lol... My mate is a lawyer and he's reading it the same way as me, I'll see if I can consult other people...
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| stanton wrote: |
@Thew2002,
You must be wealthy ...or at least you will need to be to stay the whole season in St Anton without work..
The working skibums and local will pickup on this quite quickly .. |
Why is this relevant? I was in 3 valleys last year and no one treated me differently to anyone else.
If they pick up on this what will they do? Rob me?!
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@Thew2002, I would say that the Austrian text is clear, they have given you permission to be in Austria for 5 months no more. The reason for the minimum validity is 91 days is that less than that is covered by the Visa waiver scheme. I agree a complete pain but not worth revisiting that subject again. If you show you are not going to be a burden on the Austrian state (which you have) I cant see why they dont let you stay as long as you wish, Austria benefits from you spending your money there! But that's not the way the bureaucracy sees it.
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Hmmm darn it that's a shame. I should have booked flights a couple weeks before and a couple weeks after for them to grant me more time in Austria 
I'm glad I checked this forum as I was 100% sure it was fine!
This has all been a painful visa learning curve for me!
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This is one major other issue which I completely forgot about. My friend is doing is stag do for 2 nights in Vienna in May 2025...
I think there is literally no way I can go now? As obviously my visa runs out in April, and I assume I'd have to wait for 90 days before I can re-enter Austria?
I genuinely can't think of a way for me to make it, he's going to be pretty pissed off by this news...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Thew2002, i'm not sure your flights will have mattered if it's anything like my visa to work here, which was based on the length of my rental agreement.
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| @Thew2002, i'm not sure your flights will have mattered if it's anything like my visa to work here, which was based on the length of my rental agreement. |
Hmm I don't feel that is right because I booked an extra night is Salzburg before my flight back (and was included in my visa), and hence if I booked an extra couple weeks accomodation I'm sure they would have allowed more.
It seems last year France specified we could stay the extra 90 days after the visa expired (and I know people who did with no issues)... Sadly it isn't as obvious for Austria, however some EU q&a sort of implies they should have the same rules... I am going around in circles.
One final bit of confusion is we're likely driving into Austria so I have no idea how to 'activate' the visa anyway lol. I have got another 5 people's take on this and 4 say I'm allowed the extra days, and 1 is taking it to mean I am not allowed in Austria for 90 days post visa.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Thew2002, Not sure you have to "activate" the visa, it is valid for a set of dates either for a single entry or multiple entries. Maybe someone in the Austrian Interior Ministry will check you have registered at your apartment on the appropriate date. I doubt your stag thing is an issue as I would assume you will leave Austria at the end of your visa and coming back would be on the 90 day thing. The issue is how long you have to leave the county for, can you simply leave for a short while or is there a "rule" somewhere on the minimum time. I would have thought best thing would be to ask your friends in the Austrian Embassy
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes thank you for your help. I have sent them an email so we will see what they say! I appreciate what I am doing is very unusual on the whole, and sorry for hogging the forum for stupid technical visa questions.... in the good old pre-brexit days I wouldn't even need to ask any of this at all!
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Poster: A snowHead
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If they pick up on this what will they do? Rob me?! |
No.. but as you mention it.. (all Big Austrian Regions)
Thefts do happen during te season... They pick up at the beginning when people are unable to find work and run out of money.. and peak time at the end of the season when they know they are not coming back..
During the season we sometime get the organised criminal gangs (skis , helmets , poles, ) but the Police have been pretty successful at catching them in recent seasons.
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"Pick up on " Getting Mates Rates in Bars, cheap food etc .. although there are very few places left (1 or 2) that do this now..that may even change this season i have heard ..
Another thing to expect is your mates Car if it has Non Austrian Plates.? Polizei and the St Anton am Arlberg Ordnungsdienst pay particular attention to long stay vehicles. They spot these instantly. Even if all legal be aware Police will IMO check you over at some point during your stay.
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Winter is coming ... The various Almabtriebe (Cattle drives festival ) have taken place in the Valley during September although St Anton was cancelled because of the extreme weather.... The Cattle is down from the High Alpine..
Currently snowing on the Hill above 2200Metres
On Sunday, there will be a significant improvement in the weather. Initial residual clouds and fog banks will temporarily give way to bright sunshine.
The new high will be quickly go away at the beginning of next week and a new low-pressure area will blow in from from the west (west is best).
On Monday and Tuesday it will be mostly dry, but the sun will certainly shine at times and in some areas.
The temperatures show a slight upward trend.
If the weather maps are correct, a new surge of damp and cool autumn air will reach us around the middle of the week. The influence of low pressure is gaining the upper hand.
Basically : There is no stable autumn weather in sight!
Snow accumulations looking good for 50cms up higher..
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Thew2002, The ladies, men or them will rob you for free drinks at the bar  - It's easy to make pals of the long term workers and locals if one is a decent human being.
The foreign plate thing only applies to those who claim austria as a main residence - it means if they bring a foreign car they should apply to have the plates switched - which can be expensive depending on value. Non residents are fine. But there are quite a few long term residents running on foreign plates, i know of one that eventually got fined, but uk plates do tend to stand out.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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"Pick up on " Getting Mates Rates in Bars, cheap food etc .. although there are very few places left (1 or 2) that do this now..that may even change this season i have heard ..
Another thing to expect is your mates Car if it has Non Austrian Plates.? Polizei and the St Anton am Arlberg Ordnungsdienst pay particular attention to long stay vehicles. They spot these instantly. Even if all legal be aware Police will IMO check you over at some point during your stay.
I wasn't expecting mate's rates but it'd be great if I get them 
I am fine with the police checking our car, I don't see why this would be an issue. Obviously if they do this multiple times a day it'll be quite annoying, but hopefully this won't be the case.
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@Thew2002, If you park up a UK car for a period of time it is likely to get noticed and potentially it will be checked. Should not be an issue if you (or your mate) has the correct documents and winter tyres (endless posts around here on the subject). Unlike in the UK you need to keep the car registration and insurance documents in the car at all times copies are unlikely to be accepted. Once folk have worked out you are there perfectly legally I doubt you will get any hassle.
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@Thew2002, to put the car thing in to perspective, we brought our UK van over to Austria in July last year, and took it back to the UK in November, when we left it to be sold. The police didn't stop us once, that even including pulling up on our driveway to see our landlord.
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Price list has been released. see ski arlberg. season pass 1170 (a 5% increase), 6 days 423 (how can anyone afford ski holidays anymore?)
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Nice one. I assume the points system is a bit of a con if you're staying in resort? Like I assume I'd regularly go over 30 points even if only skiing a few hours a day? What happens after exceeding this?
I assume there's still no discounts floating around like there was for three valleys?
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@Thew2002, I have never known there to be early season discounts or similar floating around for tourists or non residential or non working seasonal staff.
Points pass is aimed at someone who will very rarely ski, or it is good for beginners who may want to learn on the draglift, then you can use it for a few rounds over a couple of days instead of buying two day passes. Occasionally, i had friends who would use the hourly pass.... ski hard two hours hand it back and get a partial refund.
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@Thew2002, 30 points card is only for small lifts. It's not a con.
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Just noticed week pass is more than the three valleys, despite the season pass being less....
Hopefully the week pass isn't an indicator of beer prices being greater than 3V!
I didn't mean a con as a bad thing, just meant in terms of pros and cons; overall I'd say not worth it for people living in resort
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