 Poster: A snowHead
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What are the thoughts on longer skiboards (blades if you insist on being wrong!)? There are some which are very close to the length of skis.... I just bought myself a spanky new pair of 99cm boards.... roll on January!
Adam
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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My blades are short (80cm), fat (14cm), built for tricks, although the only time they get 'air' is when I hang them on the garage wall! My wife's Head Big Easy's are 94cms and the difference is huge between the two types. The Big Easy's are much better for higher speeds but not as responsive for turns. I can go faster through bumpy moguls but she is quicker on the groomed pistes. Without seeing the shape of your new 'boards' I would guess thay are for fast carving.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Chris,
I got Line Mike Nick Pro's.... almost universally acclaimed as the best board about. It's supposedly great for the park but some of the top guys are fairly convinced it rocks for carving too.... hence why I bought it as opposed to the Line Bullet. My old boards are Big Easy's.... funny board they are too! They are way heavy and I found a wee tad unstable. My major complaint was that at speed (admittedly they arent designed for that), they did their best to 'get away'. At least 2 others on various US forums have said the same thing so it isnt just me..... I found it rather disconcerting that (when I was lucky enough to find a nice wide empty slope), I had to battle to keep the boards under me, even in a straight line!
Adam
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Chris,
I got Line Mike Nick Pro's.... almost universally acclaimed as the best board about. It's supposedly great for the park but some of the top guys are fairly convinced it rocks for carving too.... hence why I bought it as opposed to the Line Bullet. My old boards are Big Easy's.... funny board they are too! They are way heavy and I found a wee tad unstable. My major complaint was that at speed (admittedly they arent designed for that), they did their best to 'get away'. At least 2 others on various US forums have said the same thing so it isnt just me..... I found it rather disconcerting that (when I was lucky enough to find a nice wide empty slope), I had to battle to keep the boards under me, even in a straight line!
Adam
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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And there I am on a pair of the original Salomon Snowblades - blue and white - no idea how long - pretty short though. They're fine! 
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buns, At 53 I'm too old for park stuff! I just teach people how to ski on them (properly)!!! 
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Easiski,
On the skiboards forums, I have been warned against lessons from a ski instructor mainly because they will teach me ski technique, which is not right for boards blades (i say only what ive been told!).
WTHF,
That isnt right... while it is true that salomons and other cheap boards are like that, there are plenty of choices for skiboard bindings....
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buns, I was thinking of Salomon, Head, and Fischer. Line have their own bindings. Who else?
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WTFH,
The head binding is of course very different to the run of the mill salomon/Fischer!
Others would be Spruce with their releasible range; Snowjam; Canon and Bomber Elite.... Line have multiple bindings although their releasible apparently leaves much to be desired (it is ridiculously heavy im told).
Adam
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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buns, it's been a while since I examined them, but in the early days, Head were using the same binding as Salomon, etc.
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WTFH, as far as im aware, all current salomons (save next season where i know there will be changes) have used cheap plastic non-release bindings. The head boards have used releasibles for the last few years.
Adam
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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easiski, that's my experience as well. To really enjoy an afternoon on blades I'm sure I have to be technically better than I normally am on skis, otherwise the blades just slither around underneath me. I've never done the teapot exercise, not least because my singing would result in confiscation of my liftpass
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Poster: A snowHead
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rob@rar.org.uk, NB: I don't sing myself for a very good reason .......................
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Easiski,
Enlighten me to this teapot thing! Ive only been on the snow a couple of years so am not very up on all of this!
The trouble that would be noted about skiers teaching people to skiboard is that the skier pays scant regard for the location of the binding (perhaps not all, but that is the generalisation).
Adam
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So if you are turning to your left, you push your right hip?
Adam
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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buns,
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The trouble that would be noted about skiers teaching people to skiboard is that the skier pays scant regard for the location of the binding (perhaps not all, but that is the generalisation).
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Can you explain further ? Comparing my skis to blades the bindings look to be in about the same position ?
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buns, Teapot, the way I do it is to push the hip in as you say (that's the handle) and with the other hand/arm reach forward as per a spout. All to be completed whilst singing "I'm a little teapot, short and stout" etc.
ski, I would agree - with the bindings set central (with old style, you should always, of course move them equally), I cannot see a huge difference in relation to the centre ski.
Of course, "skiboard" is an American term, so maybe we're coming back to HH here? If the forums are american then the criticisms will be of US instructors, and should not be generalised over here in Europe.  
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easiski, what's the European term?
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easiski, it was a semi-trick question on my part - waiting for you to say "snowblade" then I'd jump in with the hoover/sellotape argument. I haven't used Salomon blades in years - but I might bring my Fischers to the bash...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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If yours are blue, they are the 2nd or 3rd gen Salomon ones. First gen ones were black, with a grey/silver edge to them.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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easiski, you could be right - I know that after the black ones came blue ones, then they went multi-coloured.
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You know it makes sense.
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Wear The Fox Hat, Mine are silver/white with blue edges and orange writing. I think I've had them for about 8-10 years (can't remember), but can distinctly remember thinking how smart I thought the black and silver were by comparison!  To be perfectly honest I couldn't really care less - they work fine when I need them, I occasionally wax them and do the edges (about once every 2 years) - on y va!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Wear The Fox Hat, you are such a trainspotter when it comes to gear!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Kramer, I had a pair of the black ones - got them before I first went to Breckenridge, which was 97, I think...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I just went to check in case I was going mad....
My boards (blades) are set up such that the middle of the boot is right over the middle of the board. Any skis which I can find kicking about the house, the binding is set somewhat back of centre so that the tip is much longer than the tail.....
Perhaps 'blades' has stuck in Europe due to lack of alternatives (as is the case in the US). However there are new companies (Loken for example) making skiboards..... any literature you find from such a company will not call their products blades because they would be infringing on the trademark of salomon!
Adam
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buns, mine are assymetric, so the boot centre point is lined up with the binding centre. The actual centre of my skiboards is forward of that, just like on skis. But I agree with you - many people just move the binding adjusters to be able to get their boots in, and don't centre them properly.
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Obviously im not anymore than an occasional skier..... but the skis in our house were bought as an intermediate binding/ski package.... the tip length is probably twice that of the tail! You simply couldnt be centred short of removing the binding and redrilling the skis..... is this not the case in most skis?
Adam
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