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michaelminhatkinson, They are called Staff, dear boy, Staff. Not 'hands, or indeed 'helpers'.....did you by any chance find that your fine, hand rolled oprganic porridge was a little bit salty one morning?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hahahaha, best exchange of deleted posts ever
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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paulio wrote: |
Joanne Mountainsun wrote: |
Stay well away and holiday alone |
Also, why would anyone holiday alone? That sounds grim. I always holiday with my extremely large numbers of friends, or my loving family.
Although I suppose if I wasn't fortunate enough to have such wonderful people around me, I would probably choose to pay thousands of pounds to bunk up with total strangers, and then complain about the experience on the internet! |
It wasn't irrelevant I was referring to your quote above, about you suggesting that people choose to pay (thousands a bit of an exaggeration) for a rubbish holiday and then complain about it on the internet. It seemed to me you do more than your fair share of complaining about holidays.
Look, some people like chalet holidays, some people don't ... is there any need to be offensive?
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paulio, I deleted it by mistake - not spending half my life on forums I haven't a clue what I'm doing ... sorry! Glad it made you happy though.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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What would you consider a 'fair share' of complaining about holidays, expressed as words per month? I'll limit myself to that in future.
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I'm just making an assumption based on the amount of time you spend on here ... I don't care how much you complain - I just don't think you need to be offensive that's all.
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Hahahaha.
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Back in the past I've generally had quite good experience of chalets (usually a cheaper alternative to half-board hotels because the staff are so happy to be in a ski area they are paid peanuts - except it is more communal and the staff don't make your bed).
However a holiday cooped up with a group who were all very vocally racist was a bit of a trial. I was considered to have no sense of humour because I didn't laugh at jokes such as "why do Pakis smell" - answer "So even the blind can hate them" (I heard that one twice).
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It's just the privacy aspect of chalets that I'm not keen on. Feels more like sharing a house with a load of strangers and I wasn't keen on that in my student days. Hotel rooms just feel a bit more private, my own space and bathroom and the ability to lock all the rabble out, lol!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Dr John wrote: |
Upon meeting fellow guests for the first time, my heart sinks when I see a stupid jesters hat (or similar) or *shudder* an acoustic guitar
Any more? |
Chalets are for losers.
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People who "double dip".
People who eat more than their fair share of the afternoon cake.
People who do diddly squat to help at breakfast on the chalet-hosts' day off.
Fundamentalist Mumsnetters.
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You know it makes sense.
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Nadenoodlee wrote: |
...we had everything and anything we wanted |
Are you sure you didn't gatecrash a Roman Orgy?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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There are some upsides though..
Last year on the Warren Smith I rucked up on my own to find I had been billeted with 3 single birds in their 30's.
Great fun, liked a bevvy or ten and the host was a boarder who looked about 18 but cooked like a Michelin chef.
Only downside was as we were leaving and saying goodbye and telling each other how great we all were one of the girls piped up with - 'I wish MY dad was more like you' Ouch!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Its clear the chalets I have been to are nothing like you guys. They have felt like small hotels rather than big houses, I have always had an ensuite and have never had to sort my own food out. If the cake ever ran out, more was provided.
Strange.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Don't want to spoil the thread with undue positivity but have never, yet, had a bad time in a chalet and have met a whole bunch of interesting/funny/unusual people which distinctly enhanced the holiday ... surgeons, teachers, currency traders, students, professional rugby players ... met them all and enjoyed it.
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The Flying Snowplough, I must admit to being suspicious of people who prefer tea and cake instead of beer and/or wine for their apres. I don't hate them, you understand, just slightly suspicious. And not sure what you mean by "double dip", I can't help thinking it's something filthy involving lube and a loofer, but perhaps you'd like correct me?
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Whitegold, many thanks for you insightful and erudite response. Just think, in the time you took to write the post you could have learned a new word, something long and complicated like "corrugated", or perhaps gazed up at the sky matching cloud shapes to common farmyard animals, such as you might have seen at the local petting zoo.
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I have been on a few chalet holidays and touch wood (off on one on Sunday) have never had a bad one. Some have been better than others, the best with small operators and paying a bit more.
Maybe I am the nutter!
Can't say I have ever seen anyone with a guitar, can you take them as hand luggage?
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Dr John, there's a time and place for everything, and with a little planning, one can integrate tea, cakes and beer into ones "apres" routine. It's not a case of preferring, it's more to do with not getting lashed in front of the kids straight after a hard day on the slopes.
"Double-dipping" is an offence I committed in my first family skiing holiday in a chalet. I'd dunked my carrot into some pre-dinner flavoursome goo and munched contentedly. I then returned the bitten end of my carrot into the goo for a top-up. You'd have thought I'd suggested we all cavort naked whilst the kids ate their tea whilst worshipping pictured of Tony Blair for the strength of the reaction I got. Apparently, my saliva could contain lethal bacteria, and by "double dipping", I'd exposed my chalet-mates to almost certain death.
So that's double-dipping, and why you shouldn't do it. The correct ettiquette is to reverse the carrot before re-dipping.
Can't say I'm too bothered myself. On a skiing holiday, there would appear to be much bigger risks than a bit of stray saliva, IMHO.
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Ah, thanks for those words of wisdom. I, too, was wondering what on earth "double dipping" entailed since it sounded extraordinarily risque !
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Blackblade, that list would put the fear of god through me
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Well, I can see how that might be the case ... and, yes, with the teachers in particular (group of six from same school) I did find myself succumbing to an inherent urge to put my hand up before speaking at dinner But, overall, some good experiences with people who I otherwise would not have met.
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Last year on the Warren Smith I rucked up on my own to find I had been billeted with 3 single birds in their 30's.
Great fun, liked a bevvy or ten and the host was a boarder who looked about 18 but cooked like a Michelin chef.
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Admit it, this is a fantasy isn't it ?????
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The Flying Snowplough, I assumed you had banged someone elses wife/husband
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Blackblade wrote: |
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Last year on the Warren Smith I rucked up on my own to find I had been billeted with 3 single birds in their 30's.
Great fun, liked a bevvy or ten and the host was a boarder who looked about 18 but cooked like a Michelin chef.
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Admit it, this is a fantasy isn't it ?????
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Honestly its true!
Peaksk accommodation is not 5 star - I was referred to all week as Harry Potter as I was living in a cupboard under the the stairs, but my chalet mates and the chalet boy made up for it.
If Carlsberg did chalet holidays......
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Blackblade wrote: |
Don't want to spoil the thread with undue positivity but have never, yet, had a bad time in a chalet and have met a whole bunch of interesting/funny/unusual people which distinctly enhanced the holiday ... surgeons, teachers, currency traders, students, professional rugby players ... met them all and enjoyed it. |
In any chalet, there is always at least one person who singles themselves out as the chalet knobhead for the week. If after the first day you haven't worked out who it is, everybody else has...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Genuine question from a non chalet user (apart from Chalethotel Morris in Val D but that's really a hotel):
Are mixed groups in Chalets a Brit thing, or do other nationalities go in for it too? And are chalets normally single nationality or all mixed up?
My feeling so far is that most of the comments on here may be at least partly in jest, but they do point to the underlying risks of staying in close proximity to a bunch of folk you've never met. The anonymity of a larger hotel seems much less prone to disaster to me.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Axsman, don't know if it's a Brit-thing, but from my experience, the "random" gatherings in chalets with Ski Esprit and Ski Famille have been great. (The double-dipping saga is somewhat overembelished for dramatic effect, it must be said!)
As these have all been family hols, they have been eye-wateringly expensive, and I guess that means that the families concerned will be at the very least middle-class professionals with all that entails. (The seriously rich folk own their own chalets or resorts, I understand.) We've stayed with 10 other families in total, and there has been the odd individual I've not really got on with, but that's just because you can't get on with everyone. There was certainly no animosity or inappropriate habits involved, beyond a bit of excessive cake-eating, which is pretty trivial really.
Many years ago, we went as a couple on a cheapo chalet holiday to La Plagne with Thompsons and it was horrible. There were indeed jesters-hat wearing fools billeted with us and on the first night they had a genuine p*ssing competition off the balancy at 3am. They were nice enough individually, but put them together and add alcohol and you had a bad experience. The food was great, though, as we got lucky with a proper chef who was doing a "season".
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Over my many chalet holidays the majority of other guests have been UK based. Have had a few guests from Australia, Hong Kong and South Africa; all seemed to be ex-pat UK or their descendants. Chalet staff have been much the same profile.
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Axsman wrote: |
The anonymity of a larger hotel seems much less prone to disaster to me. |
So, in a larger hotel, you get your own table at dinner. OK, it might only be 2 feet away from the next diners, and may be in a room with 50/60/70/'00s of other diners, but it is still your own table.
So where do you go to escape these other guests and ensure your anonymity? The bar? And sit there with 50/60/70/'00s of other drinkers. The pool? And swim with 50/60/70/'00s of other swimmers? Your room? And listen to the other guests arguing through the wall? Your bathroom? And listen to the melody of the drunk German guy next door taking a slash before singing in the shower. And let's not forget the banging of doors in the corridor all night long. Ooh, and the chaos at the breakfast buffet when the chefs bring a fresh batch of eggs out from the kitchen, and you are fighting to get a couple of boiled eggs back to your private dining table for 2 against the tide of the 50/60/70/'00s of diners going the other way.
Still, I guess it does guarantee your anonymity, as you don't have to speak to anyone. I suppose you could interact, maybe strike up a little light conversation with a stranger. Who knows? You might find you get along handsomely with other guests. But then that defeats the object, surely? And, of course, you could not really join in the conversations back home when you pontificate about how rude the Germans/Italians/French are.....
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stoatsbrother,
Barney makes me want to vomit. Barney at breakfast is even worse. I would have punched the parents , and I've never done that before.
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WE've stayed in lots of chalets, many last minute deals chasing thye prices and the snow (well before we had kids, after that we tended to book)
Mainly been great. SUre there have been some annoying people but that has always given us someone to moan about!
The worst was a SKi world chalet. Everyone in it was last minute, including a gang of early twenties uni students. They were fun in themselves. But after supper, every chalet girl within a 4 miles radius dropped into our chalet and took up all the sofas etc while they batted their eyelashes at these guys. One of them then scored with our chalet girl, which would have been fine, except she was supposedly a long term item with her co-chalet host and it made things fairly frosty .................
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The Voice of Reason, well taking your points at face value, yes you get your own table, and you chose which one and when to sit at it. You don't have to eat breakfast when the early risers want it (point mentioned in this thread), or endure Barney on the TV. If there is an obnoxiously loud group in the hotel you can go some way to avoiding them either geographically or chronologically. Of course this cannot be guaranteed anywhere, but it's easier to achieve in larger groups.
On the other hand if you strike up a friendship while chatting in the bar (something else that Hotels tend to have that I believe Chalets lack), you can chose to eat dinner with your new friends and share a table if you chose. The point is you get to chose.
In a hotel, anonymity is on offer, how anonymous you wish to be is your call.
IMHO all the stuff about noisy boiled eggs etc isn't a function of hotel size, it relates to hotel quality, and I would hazard a guess that chalet cooks aren't completely silent.
Finally the reason I asked about other nationalities and in particular mixed nationalities in Chalets is that meeting and chatting to them in the hotel bar is for me one of the plus points that hotel bars offer which single nationality chalets may lack?
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Being the only English speaker.... I stayed in a chalet in Courchevel traveling by myself once during the russian new years and when i got collected by the rep at the train station in Moutier he was astonished that i spoke perfect English and hurridly rang the chalet to say "dont worry one of em speaks english" turns out the whole party of 20 odd russians didnt have a single word of English between them and the staff assumed i was one of them... once i arrived and they worked out i had less of a clue than they did much Googling of russian phrases ensued over the week and it worked out a bit awkward but ok..
as it happens quite a nice group and they shared in some pleasant traditions like candle lighting and vodka drinking
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