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 no, it starts just before you get to the road and deposits you way up the hill but on the other side.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The Hidden Valley has on little steep bit but other than that is an easy run. There is a llot of poling at the ither end to get back to lifts.- not udeal fornthe unfit and boarders.
The SR is not a great ski route.
Ski Panorama and the Grest Wsr Ring are.....
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I come to this debate late but I thought I would stick my twopeneth in....I have been to the Dolomites every year for the past 7 years bar one and generally stay in the Val du Fassa but have been to San Vigilio a couple of times (two week trips) I agree with most in saying that the area is not suited to major trips by car ..getting from Campitello to Arrabba is definitely quicker on skis but a car is a great help with local travel ,,there are lots of adjunct areas that are only half an hour down the road that you would not normally visit without a car like Alpe Lusia up from Moena which is worth a day or two and rather than just go round the Sella Ronda you can ski to many different resorts and ski fo the day ...as for food much better value than the rip off 3 Valleys and you can stop in two resorts and have a 13 day lift pass which makes it much better value ..I am in TOTAL agreement with Saikee....
and as to getting there it is one overnight stop from the UK just the same as France
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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and as to getting there it is one overnight stop from the UK just the same as France
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Really! I've only stopped once overnight on a trip to Les Arcs when we broke down and I've done the drive dozens of times. I've only done it once without stopping from the Dolomites and decided not to try that again. We now always have an overnight stop to the Dolomites, but never to France.
Having spent a long time driving and walking around the Dolomites it was a bit of a shock to discover that some journeys that are a real pain by car, are in fact fairly straight forward by ski.
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It is far easier to ski place to place in the Dolomites and get the little ski buses that go everywhere.
The possible exception is Cortina which is slightly out on a limb. There is a bus that runs up to Cinque Torri but it's then along trek back to the main SR resorts. Cortina and San Pellegrino day trips are best done with a car. Otherwise, it's all very easy.
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@DaveD, that map is wonderful!
I just got completely engrossed skulking around the Selva, Sasslong, S.Christina area for a bout 10 minutes.
I sooooooooo want to go there, NOW! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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There is (was?) a book in English and Italian "Freeride in Dolomiti" by Francesco Tremolada, with 100 routes described and with photos.
Above is the famous Val Mesdi, the most skied off-piste route which cuts across the ring of the Sella Ronda, starting at the Pordoi cable car: ski straight ahead, crossing a gully (with other routes going off right and left - and you can see a steep, narrow gully you can walk up to above the left hand route) walk up ahead for a while, then skin up left, heading for the left-hand end of the mountain cliffs ahead, (or instead skin straight on up and ski left along the foot of the cliffs) and Val Mesdi is just over the top, (or the gully I mentioned back down to the left). But really you need someone to show you (and obviously don't do it alone). If you cross the first gully and climb up further to the top of the mountain ahead you can ski briefly over the back to the left left, then climb up a bit left and there are a couple of wonderful gullies which rejoin the Val Mesdi a short way down (see below, you can see some skiers in the valley bottom and the skier is Horizon). And there are a number of other amazing routes you can walk to from the Pordoi cable car.
But I hope it is obvious you really need a guide. You could try booking the guide who wrote the book!
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Thanks for that! Those couloirs do look very atmospheric and who doesn’t enjoy a trip to Italy!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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That looks epic. Bumped it!
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Poster: A snowHead
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That's a cracking map. I wonder how old the photography is? Black 1B into Pozza di Fassa is marked, albeit shown going uphill over a ridge but the run itself doesn't seem to be there. Is that a relatively new one?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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1B Vulcano is about 5 years old
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My only gripe about the Sella Ronda is too much piste bashing, if only they would allow some moguls to build here & there. Most of the times that I have been there, the offpiste snow has been very poor and the piste skiing is not very challenging. Having said this, the relatively uncrowded pistes allow some full on carving to be done.
The three valleys has some challenging skiing, notably the Grand Couloir but this is quite a short run and for it's size, the 3V does not have that much challenging piste skiing, I generally prefer neighbouring Paradiski, better skiing, cheaper prices.
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@tangowaggon,
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the 3V does not have that much challenging piste skiing, I generally prefer neighbouring Paradiski, better skiing,
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I beg to differ on that. I'll grant you slightly lower prices for most things in Paradiski vs 3V.T
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Spectacular scenery (and a high quality nostril clear-out at 1:03!).
Must get to the Dolomites one day.
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One of the big differences is the weather. Located in the sheltered south east of the mountains the Dolomites has more settled weather and more sunshine than other parts of the alps.
The 3v are more exposed to the prevailing weather and therefore get more snow. The Dolomites are reliant on artificial snow but the dry sheltered climate and smooth slopes are very suited to snow making.
With nearly 100% snow making the runs and lifts reliably open early in December with the SR usually open by Christmas.
This makes it a reliable early season skiing destination for a six day holiday with low risk of closed lifts, lost days or poor visibility.
On the other hand parts of the 3v are a much better bet for late season skiing thanks to their higher altitude and bigger annual snow falls.
Once you’ve had a 6 day holiday in the Dolomites it’s difficult to go back to the 3v 
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Sun 21-02-21 9:17; edited 1 time in total
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One of the big differences is the weather. Located in the sheltered south east of the mountains the Dolomites has more settled weather and more sunshine than other parts of the alps.
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Not all parts of the Dolomites. The Pala for example is notorious for bad weather, fog and rain. Few British skiers go there, even though it was described in the first guide book to the Dolomites The Dolomite Mountains: Excursions Through Tyrol, Carinthia, Carniola & Friuli (London, 1864). Unlike many of the areas we ski in the Dolomites it is in an Italian speaking region.
The main town San Martino di Castrozza, has perhaps the highest concentration of 5* hotels I have ever seen in one place. Cortina is it's slightly more down market competitor
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@cameronphillips2000, nice video, probably the only time you will get a table inside at Scotoni's 
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I love the 3V for its professionalism, sophistication and efficiency.
I love the Dolomites for the chilledness, friendliness and lunchiness. |
This, and everything I snipped away: all true.
And yet: If I had to choose between the 2 and never visit the other again: Dolomites without a doubt.
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