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Les Deux Alpes winter 2006-2007

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I have it on very good authority that it will defineltely snow very heavily during the first two weeks of December
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Carled; It's true; I was wrong. The GFS models were giving snowfall for today (10-20cm) all week, but they have failed.
I am sad for it.

My forecast isn't desperate. It's what the models were saying, even this morning they were giving it.
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I have it on very good authority

Glad to hear it - do you have a hotline to the Snow Gods?
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I can't understand, what happens with temperatures in western Alps.
According to analysis, temperature at 1500m level should be 2ºC now, and this is not what happens

Sad Sad Sad
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This meteogram shows the temperatures that should be for now.
According to 6am GFS launch there is a little posibility of precipitation in the weekend

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The only certainty is that I'll bet the GFS changes by this time tomorrow...

Check out the control line for the 15th Dec if you really want to get depressed (or ignore it as it's too far out to be meaningful )

regards,

Greg
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the Snow Gods have spoken to me in a dream !
Keep talking to them and saying nice things...
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Metalhead... the GFS models are notoriously bad at forecasts. By its very name it's intended to be a "Global" system and hence its unsuitability to a highly specialised area such as the alpine region. It's free, which is why snowforecast use it and charge for their forecasts derived from GFS data. Good trick, huh? As I have been saying for ages... just because GFS predicts a certain something does not mean it'll happen, I'm afraid. It does, however, give a good general overview, but it is only an overview and cannot be relied upon, there are many, many other factors affecting things.

The further away the prediction, the more useless it becomes. kitenski, I noticed the control run surge on the 15th too and I'm just now convinced that of all the wild innacurate things that are being predicted... this one will probably be true to confound us all.

By the way, the 06z version of the GFS readouts is the one that virtually everyone ignores as being the wildest piece of fiction around. The 00z and 12z are normally far more reliable indicators.

metalhead132, it's useful that you've posted a screen cap of the gfs chart. Just compare it tomorrow with the one that's out then!
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I know what happens with GFS. Meteorology is one of my biggests interests. I have been many years seeing models. And I think in the 3 days margin there are high probabilities of success in forecasting of atlantic fronts. This is not typicall unpredictable mediterranean isolated depressions that I see many times in my country
wink wink wink

I don't have enough knowledge of Alpine microclimates, and how the winds affect each valley, etc
The Pyrennes is the place that I know.

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the only bad news is that spike has been there for the past few days, I hope your wrong about it being right carled,
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metalhead132, don't take it to heart - Carled is on a crusade about this at the moment! Well, it would have been better if I could have seen something today. When I went shopping the top of the Pic Blanc was sunny, and it looked a lot snowier than yesterday. So I should think that we'll be fine down to 2,600 as Davidof says (although don't risk your best skis), and if it snow enough lower we may get some skiing on the Grand Nord as well. the main thing is for the temps to drop low enough for the cannons to work, and the good news is that it hasn't risen above 6 deg on my balcony all day. Very Happy Very Happy the thermometer on my balcony normally reads about 2 deg above the signs in the town centre, so if the temp drops tonight we may, finally, see some more snowmaking. Fingers crossed. snowHead snowHead snowHead
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easiski, mine are crossed tightly for you too. I think a certain person may be getting some new skis from Santa, and if Serre Che isn't snowy enough, we may have to come over to try them out . wink
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Lovely warm sunny day today. rolling eyes I'll post a pic later showing a slightly lower snowline than the other day. The local forecast says no snow now for 10 days - let's hope it's wrong. If at least it can stay cold (was cold last night, and still is out of the sun), we should be able to preserve what's there now to build on later. Very Happy
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easiski, My daughter is due out to LDA in 9 days time with a horde of university ski clubs. I guess the bars may be the main beneficiaries! Smile
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noggy, Yeah - for sure. Particularly smokey Joe's!

today's pic shows more white higher up and a slightly lower snowline:
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noggy, Yeah - for sure. Particularly smokey Joe's!

today's pic shows more white higher up and a slightly lower snowline:


Where do you think it snowed to? Looking from my window it is a bit hard to tell but I don't see any fresh snow below around 2300m, but we have the Grandes Rousses between us which can make quite a difference.
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davidof, Well the hump on the Diable is around 2,200m I think. It does look as though it's snowed above there. Top of the Tete Moute deffo looks whiter. Very Happy
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are they running the snow guns Charlotte?
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kitenski, No. I think the ground is too warm, and with water supply issues here they won't want to waste it. It was cold last night (frost on ground this morning), so they may have run a bit in the middle of the night, but I suspect not. I won't be able to go up straight away on Sat as I have a meeting in the morning, but will head up the mountain asap afterwards to let you all know what's what up there. If it's all open above 2,600m then that's not too bad at all. Very Happy
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Easiski: Finally, snow comes on Saturday night; and along all the next week.
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metalhead132, that would be toooooooooooooooooo Cool . I'l believe it when I see it.

So, I'll be up tomorrow afternoon folks - expect pix around T time. Little Angel
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easiski, Please tell me I need to put the snow tyres on the car for the visit next week snowHead
It's 8 deg C and raining here, so you must have snow there!
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I couldn't go up this morning, but went up early afternoon - just for you guys, to see how it was and what was open. I have to say that after a 3 hour meeting for the building I didn't feel remotely like it! Anyway I'll put up the thumbnails and you and see how it was: Click on any one to see a bigger image.
Firstly, looking out of the Jandri Experess I could see that the Cretes is almost skiable after that I spotted the Lac Du Plan was frozen, which is a very good sign and the feeder lake appeared to have crop circles on it Shocked .

At 2,600 I saw that the Toura still needs some more snow before it can run , but that the Jandri was pisted and being skied down to the 2,600m level .

Looking up the glacier, you can see that the wind has been blowing pretty hard however lower down on the Signal it was relatively shletered . The Echines des chevres needs a fair bit more

there are several options for skiing down I took the Serre palas which gives access to the 8-man chair which is running from 2,900 - 3,200m and thence to the Jandri. This bit was well dodgy as far as stones are concerned and is closed. The Breche is not currently skiable.

So I skied the whole way down to the Cretes, but the Grand Nord is definitely not advisable under instructor level skiing - very nasty crust indeed . finally, I arrived at Les Cretes at 2,100m Very Happy

the snow is much more packed than last year, and although there is less of it visually, I thought the skiing was actually better. I didn't do much damage to my skis for instance, whereas last year I wrecked them! Sad

My friend the "M.Meteo" the pisteur says it will snow a little tonight, more tomorrow night and then lots next week. Keeping all fingers crossed Very Happy
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Good news,...I want this snow for next week too Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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easiski, Much appreciated - we will all also keep all fingers crossed as well as continuing with snow dances (well I think Annie & I will) Madeye-Smiley Very Happy
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easiski, a morale booster, thank you. Very Happy
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Snow Forecast are predicting heavy snow for next weekend.
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easiski,

Hopefully the storm I have just sat through will make it over to you....can't recall rain like it...
It's only normal rain now...
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Snowed lightly down to about 1800m last night. Will take pix - off up now for first winter lesson! Very Happy
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Snow Forecast are predicting heavy snow for next weekend.
, and we all know how accurate they are rolling eyes
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metalhead132 wrote:
Nice weather prediction image.


Hi metalhead132

Where did the image come from? I like to see the key.

Ken
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Well there was fresh snow, but most of it had been blown off the glacier by the 50+kph winds! there were nice little stashes of blown powder and some bits of sustrugi though. Aztec and I had a pretty good time until I got the video out and nearly lost the fingers on my right hand altogether! Shock It was so cold that a pair of brand new Duracell batteries yesterday were US today. rolling eyes Anyway I took a couple of images on the video camera so this is what it looked like from the restaurant: and on the way down to 2,600 I went off piste a bit to avoid the rocks and found this: snowHead snowHead Well chuffed. I did have to climb a bit afterwards to get out, and might have made it up the hill if I'd gone straight, but it was worth it. Very Happy

there's some dead serious looking weather off to the SSW just behind La Muzelle and L'Aiguille de Venosc, so I'm hopeful for more snow fairly imminently; however we do need the wind to drop to maximise the base up top. I reckon they could piste the Grand Nord if they really wanted to - the path to the Cretes is fine, but the crust I skied yesterday didn't make me want to do it again today! Shocked
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easiski, some serious looking clouds over Serre Che way too, on the webcam .
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Helen Beaumont, Very Happy Very Happy
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easiski, nice pics, good to see the season underway !

metalhead132, I particularly like where that nice yellow bit is positioned, that's a metre plus of guesstimated snow Shocked
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brian, they may have changed their scales since last season, and it isn't as much as that Sad (unfortunately) here is the appropriate measure for that graph.



There is a lot of red on the forecast now snowHead snowHead

but... if only it were to be true.
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