 Poster: A snowHead
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| Casa wrote: |
Cheers guys all very helpful.
It’s a fixed 4x4 so nothing to select there.
I’ve read the manual and know where my “snow” button is.
All very exciting. |
Being able to stop is just as important as being able to go. Once you take your foot off the gas and need to stop you’ll be governed by the same laws of physics as all other cars. Even if you do have snow tyres the car behind may not. Even if you have oodles of traction drive conservatively and defensively and you’ll be fine.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Je suis un Skieur wrote: |
| Weathercam wrote: |
| I'd love to know what the true % of people with a Haldex failed system is driving around with only 2wd when they think they have 4WD - it's only when you really need 4WD you find out! |
That's an excellent point! |
[Boyracer] If you give it some gas pulling away from a tight junction you can feel the clutch engage. [/Boyracer]
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Chris_n wrote: |
| Je suis un Skieur wrote: |
| Weathercam wrote: |
| I'd love to know what the true % of people with a Haldex failed system is driving around with only 2wd when they think they have 4WD - it's only when you really need 4WD you find out! |
That's an excellent point! |
[Boyracer] If you give it some gas pulling away from a tight junction you can feel the clutch engage. [/Boyracer] |
Did you miss the part where he said it was a VW Transporter? 
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Haldex fitted a a fair few brands VW group Ford Volvo Land Rovers.
We had it on a Tiguan and it worked well for what we needed but you had to be a bit thuggish to know it was operating most of the time. Oil needs changed at correct times.
Never had an issue with ours but mate had one fail.
Faults seem to vary depending on the brand of vehicle they are fitted to?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Zero bother getting to Val D my daughter has reported.
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Just arrived in Les Arcs. No problems at all with inbound traffic. Road clear until 1800m, then just a little bit of snow barely covering the tarmac above that. Not much traffic going up the Tarentaise but still plenty going down the valley, although all flowing smoothly.
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@mods
Delete thread, false alarm
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| red 27 wrote: |
@mods
Delete thread, false alarm |
I think it was a different story leaving the resort first thing.
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i came back from Les Menuires.
Except 1-2 km in the Resort the roads were clear
not a problem at all
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| red 27 wrote: |
@mods
Delete thread, false alarm |
I think it was a different story leaving the resort first thing. |
I thought the posts early today proudly announced no problems encountered?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Snow&skifan wrote: |
| rob@rar wrote: |
| red 27 wrote: |
@mods
Delete thread, false alarm |
I think it was a different story leaving the resort first thing. |
I thought the posts early today proudly announced no problems encountered? |
Only going on what a friend said leaving Arc 1800 at 5.30am this morning. Chains necessary, and too many cars without them. Complete chaos? No, but not an easy journey at the end of a busy New Year week.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Snowmageddons occur when the snowline goes all the way to Chambery and Albertville, at 250-350m elevation. Bourg is 800m, Moutiers 500m. I believe the currrent freezing level is about 1,200m so it was never going to be an issue once you're out of resort.
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Sat 6-01-24 22:43; edited 1 time in total
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| Je suis un Skieur wrote: |
| Snowmageddons occur when the snowline goes all the way to Chambery and Albertville, at 250-350m elevation. I believe the currrent freezing level is about 1,200m so it was never going to be an issue once you're out of resort. |
This. Marginal temperatures, it was just hype and interesting to us Alps enthusiasts.
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You know it makes sense.
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SlightlySnowyMostlyWetNotReallyChaoticButaBitDisruptiveEarlyDoorsAgeddon 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Je suis un Skieur wrote: |
| Snowmageddons occur when the snowline goes all the way to Chambery and Albertville, at 250-350m elevation. Bourg is 800m, Moutiers 500m. I believe the currrent freezing level is about 1,200m so it was never going to be an issue once you're out of resort. |
It can happen for late arrivals when Mr Plough has finished his shift. Still some late afternoon flights out of blighty mean nighttime arrival in resort.. freezing conditions, some snow & ice, can make it quite hazardous. Only need one person to clog up the road for everyone else.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Gored, that's at resort level. It won't tail back to Chambery! And Mr Plough works 24 hours when it matters.
Take it from an ex resort and airport transfer driver, Snowmageddons don't occur when one tw@t blocks the road in resort. It's when many tw@ts block the access roads every 200m or so from Moutiers onwards and there aren't enough tow trucks to pull them out of the way. On the main roads, it's because some idiot's gone into the barrier and plod can't get through. When the snowline's close to resort level, the problems are restricted to resort level.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Sunday Morning, Easy drive to and from Chambery falling snow and low viz down to Aime but then black Tarmac all the way. (Did need snow tyres to get out of resort)
Steady constant flow of traffic outbound on the N90 at Aime seen on the return
Chambery flights on time despite low ish cloud rain and a bit of wind.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Weathercam wrote: |
I've had so many problems with Haldex on my 4-Motion transporter.
I'd love to know what the true % of people with a Haldex failed system is driving around with only 2wd when they think they have 4WD - it's only when you really need 4WD you find out!
Cars still coming down from the Lautaret with chains etc on as conditions up there must be bad with strong winds blowing snow across the road.
And then feel for those I've seen taking their chains off having got on to the clear road residential side roads unaware that in 10 km they'll have to put them back on! |
There's a lot out there, 2 friends had failed haldex years ago... and my brothers car had it last week!
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Drive to Lyon yesterday was completely uneventful, not even raining. We left at 16h40 and arrived in Lyon city center where the boy has a flat at 18h30. Not too bad. Snowline was around 1100m when we left.
Seems like parts of the Pyrenees did get a snowmaggedon with motorists stranded for hours on the roads
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| the authorities are urging motorists to exercise caution in the face of the difficult weather conditions. Several cases of stranded drivers have been reported, notably on the Col du Pourtalet and in Sainte-Engrace. These drivers, often lacking mandatory equipment such as snow tires or chains, have suffered the consequences of their stupidity. |
Locals had a different viewpoint, accusing the authorities of not clearing cols into Spain to force skiers to stay in France.
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@davidof, How very French 
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A car went over the edge on the road up to Meribel-Mottaret this morning.
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Saturdays Edinburgh Jet2 Innsbruck flight ended up in Munich
Return flight was Sunday
Some would have had a bit of a late night getting to accommodation
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@Mike S, had the car which left the road been heading downhill, or uphill? Were the occupants Ok?
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@pam w, I don’t know which way it was going but understand that the passengers were ok.
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I suspect they were coming downhill and took that bend too fast. There was a spot like that on the road near our apartment - the local garage, which was very close by, made good money pulling people up out of the trees.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I suspect they were coming downhill and took that bend too fast. There was a spot like that on the road near our apartment - the local garage, which was very close by, made good money pulling people up out of the trees.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The old folk from the CAF Annecy had a fright when their bus skidded off the road ruining their ski tour
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LOL Mike S stealing my photo off Facebook.
Car was heading downhill, occupants were OK but pretty lucky, another half metre and they would have gone at least 20 metres down the bank.
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You know it makes sense.
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With my "transport manager's" hat and glasses on, I wonder if the (quite old) coach would have been better with winter tyres on it?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Nemisis wrote: |
| With my "transport manager's" hat and glasses on, I wonder if the (quite old) coach would have been better with winter tyres on it? |
Those tires don't look great, do they?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| pam w wrote: |
| I suspect they were coming downhill and took that bend too fast. There was a spot like that on the road near our apartment - the local garage, which was very close by, made good money pulling people up out of the trees. |
Road looks perfectly fine (assuming suitably prudent driver in suitably equipped car).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well yes, but those are heroic assumptions.....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@davidof, just out of interest, do the regulations on winter equipment apply to public service vehicles? Would there be a question of liability for the driver or owner of that coach as those tyres are pretty shocking?
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| pam w wrote: |
| Well yes, but those are heroic assumptions..... |
Hardly, what’s your assessment of the road surface from that photo?
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My assessment is that someone taking that bend too fast (and who is therefore NOT a prudent driver) could easily skid off it, especially without the right tyres. Perhaps went into a skid then failed to correct it in time.
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Complicated conditions in the Pyrenees and Massif Central today
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| @davidof, just out of interest, do the regulations on winter equipment apply to public service vehicles? Would there be a question of liability for the driver or owner of that coach as those tyres are pretty shocking? |
Same as for cars, they at least need to have a pair of chains in the boot. 
I remember the coaches on my son's school trips were always getting stuck in the mountains in the winter.
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That picture can't be in France, @davidof. Lots of people assure us on Snowheads that "they" always keep the roads clear.
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Is this the place to point out it is now officially SNOWING IN LONDON! YAAAAY! Surely a formal '-mageddon' classification cannot be far off.
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@Richard_Sideways, oh gawd - that means the news will be full of "blizzard" reports (aka 1cm) and people crashing into things
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