 Poster: A snowHead
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Sorry, but monoskiing is nothing like snowboarding.
Most of the turns are steered rather than carved
You have poles so flats are not a problem.
You never take your feet out a the binding.
You look forward rather than sideways.
There are two similarities
You fall a lot when learning
You love slush
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@OuatteDePhoque, Yeeehaw. That's a bold look. (if you still have it you should rock it one day)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@JagerBull Everyone had a mullet in the 80s
@rogg, The years of time have been unkind on my waistline, and I gifted the outfit to a seasonaire about 15 years ago.
@johnE, The third similarity is that people give you a wide berth on chairlifts, which kinda brings us back full circle.
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Whilst on a chairlift a snowboarder can blow his nose and check the phone at the same time without dropping his poles 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| BoardieK wrote: |
| Whilst on a chairlift a snowboarder can blow his nose and check the phone at the same time without dropping his poles |
I routinely stow my poles under my left thigh on a chair, and am always surprised that so few others do the same.
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| jmr59 wrote: |
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| Whilst on a chairlift a snowboarder can blow his nose and check the phone at the same time without dropping his poles |
I routinely stow my poles under my left thigh on a chair, and am always surprised that so few others do the same. |
Are you ok with randomers shoving their poles under your leg, or do we need to ask your permission first?
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| OuatteDePhoque wrote: |
| Are you ok with randomers shoving their poles under your leg, or do we need to ask your permission first? |
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snowboard & Chairlift could be a pain in the Axxx...however as i said in another topic
always left or right. Not in the middle.
If the lift turns left, sit on the right and vice versa
If leaving the chairlift you have to go (skiing boarding) left, meaning that everybody will also do the same way, then sit on the right and head forward. Not left....Even if the chairlift turns right etc.
I admire some boarders who sit in the middle among skiers etc....big mistake. If there is a double chairlift avoid it. If it is not possible try to go alone. If it is not possible then choose the side that is better for you according what i said above. |
I'm not fussed either way, board or ski. Approach to landing, move to front of seat (not leaning against back) edges face forward  how many don't, one hand on seat edge to fire myself out in acceleration faster than others, just gets me out of the way of what anyone else wants to do, never get tangled.
When my kids were younger I'd shove them clear at that point (just to wiz them out of the way ) with them fine in managing steering to avoid anything. They really liked that bit of whooshing out of the way.
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| jmr59 wrote: |
| I routinely stow my poles under my left thigh on a chair, and am always surprised that so few others do the same. |
So, if you all do it, aren't you all laced together like the Monkees, or those street performers doing Jackson-5 routines with puppets? Wouldn't you all have to do it syncronised, like the ceremonial cocking-of-the-leg?
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| ukoldschool wrote: |
I dont think I know a single snowboarder (over my 30 years of boarding) who has ever ski'd or wanted to ski.
Most approach snowboarding as an extension to skateboarding, and you certainly don't get skateboarders that want to learn to fruit boot (roller skate) as lets face it , both skiing and fruit booting are just, well you know..... stupid looking |
Well, guilty as charged on the rollerskating front. Though I rollerblade thank you very much. I can't skate on quads. That brake at the front trips me up every time. Can't skateboard to save my life. I feel all off balance. I fear the same will be true for snowboarding.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Owlette, Presumably the brake on the back of your rollerblades doesn't trip you up (unless you have brakeless, hockey style skates). In that case just skate backwards on your quads and problem solved 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Sorry, just got back from work!
@crosbie,
Boarding is definitely easier on the knees once you suss out how to stop the dreaded toe side judder, how to get off chair lifts and assuming you don't go down heavily on the knees too often. (I wear knee pads from MTB-ing days to mitigate this a bit) The scooting along with one foot strapped in can be a pain though for me.
Being a beginner again was for me the bigger of the two hurdles yes but as you say, not a complete beginner. And a strong desire to keep sliding really helps too, kind of "well if I can't board then I stop having winter holidays and that's just not happening"...but then I discovered SkiMojo which is why I do both while I can still ski because I'm pretty sure I'll have to give up skiing sooner or later even with the mojo.
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Of course, a skier may sometimes forget they're on a single plank, rather than a pair...
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That was how I had an epiphany...chasing two skiers forgetting I was on the board!
@pam w,
My left knee is my worse one too, which is why I ride goofy so I'm surprised you ride normal. Don't you find forward weighting for a turn a problem? I totally agree with you though, why wouldn't anyone give it a go if faced with too knackered knees for skiing? Or even just to give it a go on a white-out day when most of the lifts were shut.
@Owlette,
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What do you reckon? 40 young enough?
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I did the board in a day course at Hemel, which I thoroughly recommend, when I was 52.
For those thinking of it, all the talk of boarding being easier is true to a certain extent (after the 3 days of pain). But once you get to a certain level you have to be rather dynamic on the board which does mean the thighs get a full workout.
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You can have a fall and pretend that was just you stopping.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Nickski, I'm not sure boarders are that hung up on whether they fall or not. So no need to pretend.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'm not sure boarders are that hung up on whether they fall or not. So no need to pretend.
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I suspect that's true - and so much easier to get up. Having fallen such a lot I got good at it - board straight over the head, up on the toe edge. When I fall on skis I feel like a stranded whale. I watched a French dad with 5 year old learner snowboarder one afternoon. Lad was in a sort of furry brown suit, and was like a little teddy bear, just over, laughing, up and down again, all afternoon down the nursery slope I was practising on. Sheer joy and lovely to watch.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@pam w, I've discovered yet another benefit of skiing in Italy. There, pretty much anybody who's passing will offer me a hand up if I'm in a heap. Never happens in France.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Benissimo! Looking forward to that.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Surprised - in a good way - to see so many snowboarder Snowheads.
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| wiigman wrote: |
| Surprised - in a good way - to see so many snowboarder Snowheads. |
Well, who else would have us? I tried SCGB but got asked to leave after using the wrong cake fork during the orgy.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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All about the spooning 
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Skier here (hope you don't mind me intruding from the native quarter).
It never occurred to me to try snowboards when they first appeared and now it feels too late. I can't afford the time off being a beginner rather than a (relative) expert on my 3 or 4 weeks per year off-piste steep and deep with guides. Not so many years left (just coming up to 75). I imagine I'll start slowing down soon.
What's this about needing 2 pairs of skis and not liking slush!! Never taken more than one pair and I love slush. Breakable crust, though, I can imagine might be easier on a board.
SCGB orgy? Damn, I must have gone on the wrong holidays.
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Not so many years left (just coming up to 75).
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I can relate to that, @snowball. I'm no expert on skis, but a lot better than on a board. And when I dabbled with boarding I had plenty of slope time to play with. But it is quite fun being a beginner - in anything - because the learning curve is so steep. Not just physical things like skiing. Learning anything. I made encouraging progress in Italian for a while...... and even in playing the piano - ma purtroppo era troppo tardi......
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Why aren't there more boarders on the Snowheads off-piste holiday? Or is it the thought of mixing with skiers in the evening?
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@pam w, if I were out for a season I'd certainly try, but as it is, every day on snow is so precious. (Already lost my January ski holiday with the flu.)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@snowball, oldest person I met learning to snowboard was a lady of 82. She'd seen one of her grandsons riding "and thought it looked so graceful".
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| @snowball, oldest person I met learning to snowboard was a lady of 82. She'd seen one of her grandsons riding "and thought it looked so graceful". |
This might be the best thing I've ever read on this forum.
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 An instructor at the Southampton dry ski slope told me he'd taught an 80 year old beginner snowboarder.
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You know it makes sense.
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I did do a half day of beginner boarding at Hemel a few years ago. But how many days riding would it take to be able to ride a 45º slope stylishly?
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Fri 24-02-23 17:22; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@snowball, wrong question - how many days would it take to have fun.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Richard_Sideways, I ski with a group of friends and a favourite guide (and have fun now). But I take your point. Do you take the reverse point about learning skiing?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I don't get this "powder day" thing. There is usually powder of some sort somewhere if you know where to find it (or have a good guide). Main reason for considering a second pair is when there are loads of hidden sharp rocks around to damage new skis. Is this any different with boards?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowball wrote: |
| ..how many days riding would it take to be able to ride a 45º slope stylishly? |
It's harder to ride Hemel Hempstead gracefully than technical steeps, in my opinion. Most skiers cant do either stylishly.
But I think snowboarding has a mindset difference - the "orthodoxy" is much weaker than in skiing. No one can tell me I'm not doing it right, no one can tell me I have to snowplough before I can jump a cliff. Snowboarding has old guys too now, but we still don't have skier type rules. Or snowploughing.
A hundred days of practice ought to get you most of the way there, if you're reasonably athletic.
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@snowball, absolutely, I *almost* bit the bullet and thought about trying to learn to ski when the wee'un were more wee and learning their Pizzas and Frites so I could be more helpful as they learned. But, I decided against doing it as how much use is a beginner helping a beginner - plus the picked up everything so quickly I doubt I'd have been able to do anything except slow them down. Both kids have done both disciplines although youngest has seen the light and is tending towards the One True Edge and the other will be written out of my will in due course.
I still might take a ski lesson or two sometime... Maybe one of those Learn To Ski Inna Day jobbers at Hemel... It'll give me a good reason to add a splitboard to the quiver and come do the ShOPBash 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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phil_w So if I did one week boarding per season I'd be about 90. That's if I were still "athletic". Not sure how athletic I am now. Technique still gets you a long way when the body is starting to fail.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Fri 24-02-23 18:35; edited 1 time in total
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
and the other will be written out of my will in due course.
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It is a shame boarders and skiers are segregated on Snowheads holidays (I am about to try the Spring Off-Piste Bash). I have never ridden with a boarder and when you have a good guide you seldom see others than your own group.
PS, sorry, I have crashed a topic off-topic. I'll shut up now.
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@snowball,  Harrison the Rabbit has boarded on that Bash several times.
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Yes, but they don't do mixed groups with the guides. Perhaps I'll get to ski with some boarders on the last Saturday if my energy lasts that long.
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It is a shame boarders and skiers are segregated on Snowheads holidays (I am about to try the Spring Off-Piste Bash).
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@Richard_Sideways, I and many others have taken our boards to bashes. No segregation. We just don't like to show up all those skiers who are wondering if they are having fun yet?
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