 Poster: A snowHead
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^ I think we can agree to disagree about pressure being a steering element.
Although you cant make an entire turn using just pressure you can clearly change turn radius (so long as there is Edge and Rotation present)
Apart from that we are almost on the same page.
Good debate jimmer, mike pow et al., it got me thinking which is good.
Enjoy the snow 
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 21-09-13 8:30; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think obe thing that would be common at all levels..... A lot less talking about Pressure, Edge and Rotation.......
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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scooby_simon, 
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| Haggis_Trap wrote: |
Good debate jimmer, mike pow et al., it got me thinking which is good.
Enjoy the snow |
Indeed. Very illuminating to read other instructors' views and interpretations.
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^ I think we can agree to disagree about pressure being a steering element.
Although you cant make an entire turn using just pressure you can clearly change turn radius (so long as there is Edge and Rotation present)
Apart from that we are almost on the same page. |
Based on the interpretations in this thread and the 'pole planting' thread I'd say that you and I are in the same section of the library.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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^ on both occasions we were furiously disagreeing.
however..... much of the argument wasn't about the basic points.
rather the disagreement was about the more subtle details and interpretation of the definitions & jargon's used.
i.e
is pressure a "steering element" or is it "a resultant effect which must be managed"?
actually it doesn't matter how you describe it.....
people get hung up on national associations having different techniques.
i.e BASI vs France vs NZ vs Austria.
in reality the outcomes and styles of skiing are almost identical.
it is the model, and terms used, to describe the turn that differs (not the actual way of skiing).
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Haggis_Trap, Is your d*ck bigger than Jimmer's................... or your carved/edged/pressured turns that much tighter????????????????? 
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| skimastaaah wrote: |
| Haggis_Trap, Is your d*ck bigger than Jimmer's................... or your carved/edged/pressured turns that much tighter????????????????? |
^ seriously : is that really the best you can contribute ?
try harder wee baw's....
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So, kitenski is your question answered now? 
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Ha ha
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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^ clearly still here having a peek though
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Really?
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You know it makes sense.
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Surely use of pressure to the front or tail will create a turn too. (This out of my Level 1 course)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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rob@rar, You wrote : "For me the difference between a good instructor and great instructor is the quality of what they "see"." I agree and that's the main problem. A "normal" ski instructor is looking at the style, how in general the skier is moving, how is the balance, ... but if you are not looking at the skis, how the skis are working on the snow you wouldn't be a good or a great ski instructor. First look at the skis how they are going on the snow and you'll have all the information you need. Then have a look at the rest of the body just to confirm why the skis are not going well ; that's my opinion!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| snow area wrote: |
| ... that's my opinion! |
I agree Claude, start looking from the skis upwards.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Very interested to read through this topic and especially rob@rar's comment about the quality of what instructors see. I'll now throw another comment into the pot...
I was a Ski Leader (Snowsport Scotland basic qualification) for over 20 years and also did ASSI so taught my pupils on dry slope and lead them on snow on school trips. Now retired from teaching so not kept up the ski qualification. However I judge world cup mogul skiing so I can look at skiing and comment about body position/movements, ski edging, carving etc. We all spend several days each autumn at a seminar analysing skiing to make sure we are judging to the same standards. We have to write down a summary of what we are seeing to justify the scores we give at competitions. So I can see what is happening but I'm not an instructor or coach so can't say how to correct faults and I certainly don't ski at world cup level!
Discuss...
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