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The All New 15/16 Weather Outlook Thread

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@langball, comes with a fairly strong health warning! Don't take it too seriously.
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Charliegolf wrote:
I used to fly in the Air Force- met briefings were each day, for that day. Statistically, they got it right about 40% of the time. Moral? If you ignore the forecast, you might get what you want! snowHead


Seem to remember hearing once that, statistically, you're better off assuming that the weather one day will be similar to the previous day.
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Charliegolf wrote:
I used to fly in the Air Force- met briefings were each day, for that day. Statistically, they got it right about 40% of the time. Moral? If you ignore the forecast, you might get what you want! snowHead


Seem to remember hearing once that, statistically, you're better off assuming that the weather one day will be similar to the previous day.


I'll wait for the first decent dump of snow before I start following that rule Very Happy
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@langball, the locals find the British obsession with the weather most amusing.

Apocryphally,

Brit walks into bar in January, "My word, it's perishingly cold out there".

Barman looks at him in surprise, "But M. what would you expect? it's January".

&c.
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18z has more precipitation for next week compared to 12z, still mild though
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Sprinkling of snow forecast today for some places but the Les Saisies webcam shows it raining at 1650m. Might get a few flakes later as it cools down. Best we can hope for afterwards, for some days, is nights cold enough to blow some cannons.


How did things pan out? Quite a few resorts complaining that today's warm temps and rain have hammered their lower slopes.
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Looks like snow forecast for next Tuesday has already changed from snow to snow showers and higher FL:(
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Snowmageddon Part Deux: The Christmas Day Edition??? NehNeh

PDS -


Salzburgerland -
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It definitely looks like something or nothing...

time will tell.
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I can definitively say that it will finally dump on the 2nd of January. I know this because that's the day I go home from Livigno and have to drive half way across the alps Laughing Thanks to the knowledgeable ones who contribute here, always makes interesting reading.
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This morning actually sees an increase in the possible snowfall next week for some areas, although I'm not completely convinced as some of it looks a bit spiky.



The op run for Christmas should obviously not be read as a forecast...


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@nozawaonsen, yet! Hence the NehNeh

Though if it continues to be repeated as it was in the 18z last night for perhaps a week maybe we can get a little excited.
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some of it looks a bit spiky.

doesn't some of it looks a bit warmy, too? Yesterday few cms of snow was a few mm of rain in Les Saisies at 1650, davidof. It was wet (not hammering down though) all day, judging by the front de neige webcam. According to the website they've lost no snow in the last 5 days but who'd believe that?
A continuation of a blocking high, with some sunshine, would be infinitely preferable to having it p!ssing down for days.
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looks like santa might have got my letter, cold temps and a sack load of snow Wink

hope he doesn't loose the letter between now and then
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Meanwhile back in the UK the torrential rain continues. Sad Sad Sad Towns in Cumbria have flooded for the second time in 5 days.

Last night Oscar had his end of term time trial at Hillend and the conditions were atrocious. I suspect if the time trials and trialist tests hadn't been on they would have shut the place. It was so windy that the rain had gone beyond horizontal and was starting to go back up again. Toofy Grin The rain was even too much for his Leki Gore-Tex Race gloves as they were soaked through and about three times their normal weight. They've been sitting on the warming plate of the AGA all night and while the outside are now dry the insides are still wet so they've gone on the boot/glove dryer. The crazy thing was that once they had completed their 2 times runs he and his friends all went off to ski more!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

By the looks of the forecast it would appear that we are going to enjoy blue skies and good conditions in Tignes this weekend. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Where have you found cold temps, @Little Martin? GFS looking distinctly warm, I thought?
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It's an emotional rollercoaster, i can't handle it any more. I'm flouncing..
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I've become more interestedin /excited about checking the latest here each morning than the contents of the day's window on the chocolate advent calendar. Virtually unprecedented situation...
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ECM has it colder than gfs next week. Europe v the USA.,,, like the Ryder cup
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around Christmas temps start to drop off below average still FI though, so anything can happen....
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What's FI?


Fantasy Island - an imaginary place where it always snows when you want, and get bluebird powder days when you want.
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@Charliegolf, fantasy island ......... "the plane .. the plane " Toofy Grin
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@hollando, Laughing Laughing
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Ah, the place where Swansea will beat Barcelona 5-0 in the Champions' League Final. That FI!
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@Charliegolf, sounds like you definitely do not want **bluebird** powder days.
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@dobby, very very good! Laughing
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@AthersT, I am a Forest fan living in Cardiff. When we lost to the ****** earlier this season I got jip from the world and his wife. Everyone.
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@pam w, 3v's



around Christmas temps start to drop off below average still FI though, so anything can happen....


This map is for Aple d'Huez region. Lat/Lon 46,7 tends to be used for 3 valleys although it sort of falls inbetween.
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3v's has several it can choose from, Couchevel is Latitude : 45.4167 Longitude : 6.65
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Well, in the hope that there's some snow about on 17th, when I drive down, I've topped up the windscreen wash, done my annual snowchain practice (5 minutes from a standing start, chains in boot) and laid in a stock of cheap and nasty chocolate (because then I'll only eat it in a proper emergency).

If I have to stop in the dark to put the chains on my winter tyres, I'll be ecstatic!
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and surprised.....
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Little Martin wrote:
3v's has several it can choose from, Couchevel is Latitude : 45.4167 Longitude : 6.65


Someone posted this a while back, it's the "surrounding" four ensembles on one page, which i quite liked.

http://www.talesfromthesavoy.com/ensembles.htm
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@pam w, and will you eat all the chocolate?
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@alj, Nope, that's for emergencies. Stopping for a few minutes to put snowchains on is not an emergency - in the circumstances it would be a pleasure. Though I'd be looking forward to treating myself to a glass of brandy on arrival after driving from home in the UK!
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@pam w, I'm not so hot on weather forecasts, but I could forecast the fate of any chocolate hanging around in my car with a high degree of certainty.
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@pam w, just checking what constitutes an emergency! We call the same cheap choc - "anti-grizzle".

Back to the weather I can remember being in Les Gets for new year a few years back (10 or so) and it rained all day solidly all day on new year's eve and day washing the lower pistes away and then it snowed for the next 12 hrs solid - Mont Chery went from completely green to thigh high snow. What a difference a day makes.
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alj wrote:
@pam w, just checking what constitutes an emergency! We call the same cheap choc - "anti-grizzle".

Back to the weather I can remember being in Les Gets for new year a few years back (10 or so) and it rained all day solidly all day on new year's eve and day washing the lower pistes away and then it snowed for the next 12 hrs solid - Mont Chery went from completely green to thigh high snow. What a difference a day makes.


this
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Might someone post a fabulous, snowlicious version of the graphic a few posts above this one; so I can see what to get excited about please. Ta.

As in, what does snowmaggedon look like one one.
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@Charliegolf, it needs lots of activity on the lower set of ensembles (precipitation) - all near enough lining up, which means pretty close certainty. Coupled with the ensembles on the top part agreeing that it will be cold (on or preferably below the red (average temperature) line.

When you get the bottom right with the top lines rather uncertain and on average above the red line (as above) it's really not good news unless you are staying at 3000m or are a duck. wink

Top lines looking cold (below the red line) and absolutely nothing happening on the bottom (as for the next few days in the graph above) it's reasonably good news as it's likely to be sunny and cold enough to blow snow.

When the ensembles are all over the place, with no sign of them sticking together, it's anybody's guess.
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