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France: Avoriaz / Morzine / Les Gets / Chatel - 2011/12 snowreport

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Good news in that MrsFS passed her mountain safety course and is now fully qualified to have an argument, off-piste with an ESF instructor. (It's what I've done with my qualification!)

We (me and a friend - MrsFS stayed in bed to recover from the week) were up on the 9:15 lift from Ardent for half a day's training and got back to Ardent at 16:20. God only knows what time we would have been out until had we stayed out "for the day" Toofy Grin

It was remarkably quiet in the Linderats bowl as we passed through on the way to Champoussin to do some "piste performance" (i.e. carving). The snow on the Swiss side is in remarkably good nick given the conditions - by far the best conditions I've seen. A (very) few runs are showing signs of wear and have proper patches showing through, but generally only on pistes where the pisteurs have decided to let the piste go in favour of keeping others going.

From there we headed back to the bumps under Cubore and the Swiss Wall for bumps training. The bumps under Cubore were strangely disappointing and the Swiss Wall was absolutely horrid mush when we hit it. Really. I'm not a bad skier and struggled down - as did the other person I was skiing with.

We had lunch in the first hut on the way down the Grand Paradis run at 14:30. A very nice Croute in a nice spot and served by someone who obviously enjoyed her job. Recommended. They offer the option of being taken back up to the drag behind a skidoo, but we opted to ski all the way down to the bottom of the Grand Paradis - only to have a panic to find that it was 15:45 and the "last lift to Avoriaz was 15:00 Shocked

Anyway, I can confirm that you can do the bottom of the Grand Paradis to the bottom of Ardent in 35 minutes. But you've got to shift. snowHead snowHead snowHead

(Actually once we'd hit the top of the Grand Conche lift we were "safe". But we just wanted to find out...)
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Well done MrsFS. Now the Stantonis can give it to the ESF in stereo!

I'm officially jealous and spending more time on here than ever. No skiing on the horizon until December though we'll be out in the summer.

That run down to Grand Paradis is one of my favourites though it's not much of a challenge (apart from dodging the prostrate bodies on that funny right hand turn) - just stand on your skis and follow the road down the valley - but it's a beautiful spot with my favourite view up to the Dents du Midi. We've never stopped at either of the restaurants but we'll have them on the list for next year. And then you get to ride on the two most comfortable chairlifts in the PDS.

Hope you have a great finale to the season.
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Thanks DJL.

We were discussing how very Swiss those two chairs are - fast, efficient and comfortable.
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FlyingStantoni, Well done that Mrs FS.

I am often disappointed with the Cubore bumps. i think it's a slightly funny gradient much of the way down and also suspect too many people think it's an easy route to wherever.

We got up to Cham after discovering a truly excellent Indian and Iranian restaurant last night (and thus not arising too early) to slope up to La Tour for lunch, irritated to discover that the Alpage du Balme had said at 12 of the clock, "no worries, come back at one, we don't take reservations but you'll be fine", upon arriving at 13h to hear, " no, we don't take reservations for the 2nd sitting unless you're a guide or instructor and crikey, look how many of them we have!"

Yeah, well, guess how many of our guests won't be sent in their directioninext season.

(sorry, that was way off topic. Oh well, it's late March)
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FlyingStantoni, congrats to MrsFS Very Happy

Les Arcs on Friday and then Les Gets on 6th, save some white stuff for us Very Happy Is it pretty likely that Ranfolly is out for the remainder?
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Lou, white stuff very good today. Lovely to be back in Les Gets after two weeks and we were up on Mt Chery before 9 - skied over there till we had lunch at GO after 1 - scheduled to close on the 9th by the way. What I have been told is that the Ranfolly is out for the rest of the season.
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Pamski, that was going to be my next question Very Happy We will make it Madeye-Smiley
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Mr NN went to "the mountain we shall now speak of" this afternoon and said it was still quite lovely. We then went for a coffee down in Les Gets - whats it called, Rond something or other - forgot my glasses so couldnt really enjoy it as I was dazzled! Had a good look up close at all the jumps from the Ebouelle including the road jump - WOOOZAH!
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Looks like another, sorry another... beautiful day in Les Gets this morning - just hit 0.00 and was minus overnight. Very, very quiet here. OH was at Ardent, Les Crosets, Chatel etc on Monday with friends and no queues to speak of and really good snow, I had Mt Chery to myself that day and we were in Les Gets and Morzine yesterday and at 1.30 yesterday the runs back down into the bowl at Les Gets from the top of Charniaz Express were still firm and not chopped up.
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Pamski, leave some for me. I plan to be all over Mt Chery on Saturday afternoon. Toofy Grin
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andyph, all in excellent shape still - we were up from Ardent before 9 this morning, and then went over to Super Morzine and down Zore and Tetras a few times; thought we would then go down the Crot to Prodains and found a big hole there at the top by the telecabine and that part of the Crot now closed. Lots of digging etc going on there. Went up and down a bit (sorry hopeless on names) and then took the red that joins up with the Crot - it was the one that I never fancy as it has a bit of a corner... corner still not very nice but managed to avoid two people standing looking at it and the most enormous snowball. The run down at the bottom to Prodains was still very hard and in huge lumps and not easy to see as I had the sunglasses for bright sun on. Also a huge hole of digging going on at the bottom of Prodains

Blue de Lac, Arare all good, coffee at Flo's very welcome, and the glass of wine at the Ferme at Lindarets also enjoyed.

Going up in the gondola from Ardent first thing there was a piste basher going up the right hand side, and further up there was one going down the left hand side just below the goat village, luckily no-one skiing there at the time and they were going incredibly slowly. The one on the way down was well loaded up with, presumably, empty beer barrels.

Now got a bit of duck going on the grill outside - another afternoon to be wasted on the terrace in the sun.
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Pamski, actually I've never bothered with Super Morzine even once, as the runs down that side are reputed to be rather dull. I know you shouldn't beleive everything you hear but with so much else to choose from... Plus I usually drive to Ardent or Prodain - no point driving to Morzine to then have a load of up and down before getting to the action. Anyway, I'll be very happy if the runs are open to Prodains as it's more fun than a downlift.

Soooooo... anyone around next week for a pootle around one day? Little Angel
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andyph, those runs were lovely first thing this morning - we rarely drive that way as Ardent much easier. Just very occasionally go all the way down B from Les Gets and across Morzine to go up Super Morzine, but probably not done it for 5 or 6 years. Usually when we have people staying and they like to try everything!!
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andyph, Zore and Tetras are fantastic on the right day wink
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Soooooo... anyone around next week for a pootle around one day? Little Angel

You beat me to it. I was just going to suggest a Snowheadian meet up on Friday or Saturday next week.

Anyone up for it and any preference for day?
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And forgot that Coupe du Monde was also very nice today - I was happy so it must have been.
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I'm not happy seeing all these comments!

Whilst not wanting to wish poor snow or skiing on any of the Snowheads out there it does makes me think my decision not to come out for Easter was a bad one. Bit of a worry hearing about "holes" in Crot. Presume its a stream running down there and it would not be good to fall into.

Some of those runs which are mainly used to access the higher areas (I guess Zore falls into that category) are often really good value first thing. Everyone is heading up the chair so the piste is empty and because it's low it has great snow (groomed, just softening, not cut up). We had a run down through the goat village to the Ardent bubble first thing one day on our lads trip. Brilliant! Usually we give it a go at the end of a long day in Avoriaz - slushy, busy full of chopped up snow and a real knee twister. As with most things timing is everything.
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DJL, I hesitate here - but we did just wonder whether it was all something to do with that rumoured new lift from the middle of Morzine up to the top of Prodains. Probably wrong, and maybe just lots of drainage, but really quite a lot of excavation going on. Wait to be corrected now.

And Zore and Tetras were really good - still nice and hard, only a few people around just after 9 and really very few coming up to get on the chair from the Super Morzine bubble, hence we were able to go round and round a few times.
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I saw zzz on the flight home on Monday and he said that Prodains is closing a couple of weeks early so that they can get the replacement lift in by the summer. On that basis it's probably something to do with that.

The new lift is planned in two stages - the first phase to replace the cable car and the second phase from Rue de Bourg (above the telephone exchange). The second phase hasn't been confirmed yet.

There are some details on the Marie website for anyone who is keen.
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FlyingStantoni, Do you have a date of when Prodains is closing? Was just about to book my transfer from GVA and staying at bottom of Avoriaz so was just going to go to Prodains and get the bubble up... Might have to re-assess my plans?
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andyph, have a blast (and please be mindful that there are people coming on the 7th so MC will need to be nurtured) Very Happy
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FlyingStantoni, following the trail we had on FB and the post you made here - sadly next week Fri/Sat look set to be a dash off to do some offpiste in Chamonix with friends. Sunday?
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I don't sorry Sunshine81.

One of the (proper) locals might know.
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carolh, Sunday works. I was just trying to avoid too many choices!

Six is quorate (we have 2 guests and I'm hoping that Mrcarolh can come).

Sean is around and I'll mention to him.

Could you mention to DallyPaul if you see him / speak to him?


Come on fellow snowHeads - Roll Up! Roll Up! - Snowhead ski (and probably long lunch given conditions) on Sunday 8th April.

8:30 at Bruno's (l'Escaparde) at Ardent.


Lou, Pamski and andyph can you make it?

DJL, get that flight booked. Go on. You know you want to...


Please post here if you can make it and I'll PM you my mobile.
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FlyingStantoni, can I come along virtually? Toofy Grin
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FlyingStantoni, can I come along virtually? Toofy Grin

Get your back bottom out there actually wink
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FlyingStantoni, I am heading to Les Gets tommorrow and will be out until Thursday evening, so once again it looks like I will miss out Evil or Very Mad
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FlyingStantoni, we will go for it - sounds like our sort of timing as we like being out early. Can't guarantee that I will keep up!
Better have a drink for Pedantica, at lunchtime.
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FlyingStantoni, yup we are up for it too Very Happy Heading to PdS Saturday from Les Arcs so all being well........
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FlyingStantoni, oh no! We arrive this saturday and go home on 7th. Could manage a pootle on friday if you're free.

If not (or anyway), Chattonmill, fancy catching up somewhere?
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DJL, get that flight booked. Go on. You know you want to...


You're right I do want to but we've got visitors over Easter and I've got meetings I can't duck the week after.

I could try the virtual option, go for a run on Sunday morning and weave about a bit on the downhills. Virtual long lunch is easier - there's some cheese I brought back from the lad's trip in March and Cotes du Rhone in the garage.
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FlyingStantoni,Pamski, where is Bruno's exactly, and will we be able to get up from Ardent car park in time?
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Lou, Bruno's is the restaurant just over the little bridge next to the bottom of the Ardent lift base. Its proper name is l'Escapade, but everyone I know calls it Bruno's.

andyph, possibly. Need to check with MrsFS (I only have certain delegated arrangement authority!).
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FlyingStantoni,
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I wish. No can do, until I've been under the surgeon's knife. Sad

DJL, now there's an idea, I've got plenty of Cotes du Rhone in my cellar. Toofy Grin
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FlyingStantoni,
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quite right too!

Re - the snow - we had our last morning at La Grande Turche yesterday - pistes all beautifully groomed up there as usual, just us and a bunch of kids nearly all morning, the circuit closed on Sunday as Bellevaux has now closed its lifts, so we did many runs up to the top and down to the village. The run back down to the gondola base was fine all the time we were there - left about 12.30. Then went to Mt Chery from the Chery Nord side and only skied that north side which was all still in good shape, bit of lunch at the bottom by the lift and left about 3. Probably the hottest afternoon so far.
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Dear Snowheads,
So FlyingStantoni, has set up a mini-bash on Sunday 8th but cries of 'oh no I won't be there then' are heard far and wide. Me too, so how about another date next week in addition? I am skiing Sunday 1st - Friday 6th inclusive and will have Mrs and 2x minis with me so it won't be hair-raising off-piste do-or-die stuff and we don't tend to be up early and out late. How about kicking off with Monday 2nd 0900 at the top of the steps of the Ardent bottom lift station for anybody who wants to meet up. I am in black clothes head to foot with a couple of Snowheads stickers on my helmet. We can then see who turns up and sort out if we want to go as a herd, split into smaller groups, select a lunch stop or whatever...
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FlyingStantoni, totally understand, frankly my suggestion was an act of defiant optimism . wink

I'll be on wifi every day so just let me know.

MontriondSkier, sounds enticing but having not been on snow for 2 years I might need more than a day to work out which way is forward Toofy Grin If we see you, we see you. Very Happy
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andyph, Would be good to meet up this week, are you Les Gets or Morzine based?
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What an excellent day. 3 aging ex saisonnaires and one wife managed to actually coordinate themselves into a days skiing.

Hopes we high for some good chairlift chat, and maybe some nice spring skiing. First run back into Lindarets from Avoriaz initially un promising (too early) but then someone had a rare idea, a quick look at the "Couloir of the Rock" - from Mossettes down into Morgin and then "Short Circuit".

Splendid couloir, skiers right at top, cutting across to left about 1/3 down. Lovely spring snow, just turned.

Quick run up to Morgins top, then a lovely sunny lunch at the Buvette Sporting.

Quick scootback to Ardent, Across Linga with much fine slushiness and a few nice bumps. Essential Turns Only.

Marvellous.
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What an excellent day. 3 aging ex saisonnaires and one wife managed to actually coordinate themselves into a days skiing.

Hopes we high for some good chairlift chat, and maybe some nice spring skiing. First run back into Lindarets from Avoriaz initially un promising (too early) but then someone had a rare idea, a quick look at the "Couloir of the Rock" - from Mossettes down into Morgin and then "Short Circuit".

Splendid couloir, skiers right at top, cutting across to left about 1/3 down. Lovely spring snow, just turned.

Quick run up to Morgins top, then a lovely sunny lunch at the Buvette Sporting.

Quick scootback to Ardent, Across Linga with much fine slushiness and a few nice bumps. Essential Turns Only.

Marvellous.
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