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rob@rar wrote:
@Arctic Roll, I’m looking at the Electroverse app now, and it’s quoting 78p for Ionity and for InstaVolt which was the other high speed charger nearby.

I’ve learned to take the 8% discount via Electroverse with a pinch of salt. The Shell ReCharge charger near me in Arc 1800 is cheaper via my Shell account than it is via my Electroverse account, despite Electroverse claiming they offer the discount on Shell charging. Just one of the pitfalls when you step outside the Tesla ecosystem.


Interesting - it certainly seemed to pay off when using Ionity in France when looking at prices on the stands, and charge on the account- but absolutely agree even with that, it ain't close to Tesla prices. And so, the Tesla network is always our first choice.

Albeit witching from a Sterling account to a Euro account card in Electroverse is straightforward - both cards stored in the app, you just switch "default" when sitting on the Eurotunnel. But for the Tesla app, it only allows me to have one card listed, So I need to re-enter all the details each time - maybe its because I'm not a Tesla owner, just a user of the app?

I mean yes, #1stWorldProblem, but surely something they would be a benefit for all: if not for currency changes, certainly business / private card use?


re: A/C charging - 7kW at home is surely enough - and they installed ours with a 60A feed (although we did get it changed to 100A - FoC - in case we get a second EV and need to charge them simultaneously from 2 points)

Although that 'may' not be necessary:

We've been taking part in trials with Ohme whereby you effectively charge every day. You drop from say 70% to 55% on your daily commute, and they charge back up, every night. Plug in 3 - 5 timeS a week, and they give you cash back for "balancing the grid" . It was a two month trial, and we got quite a few Amazon vouchers!

BUT

The original advice, I thought. was not to stress your battery through excessive 'cycles', which would be a count of 1 whether charging from 55 - 70 or 20 - 90.
So we behaved in the same way as an ICE owner - filling the car to 90% (as now recommended by Volvo) and then not re-doing until it reached 20%.
But am reading articles now that say this is no longer the way to do it - keeping your EV 'fully' charged at all times is the way to go - and a clear differentiator to the ICE method. Certainly Ohme weren't bothered by advising you to cycle the battery 3, 4 5 times a week.

So my question to the long term owners on here: are you seeing a drop off in battery performance that could be attributable to multiple cycles - one that would impact the re-sale value? Or are we still in the learning phase?
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@Arctic Roll, A cycle is 0-100%, so 40-90% is half a cycle.

All the anecdotal evidence - of which there is an increasing amount - is that the batteries are much more resilient that expected, and the only thing they don't like is being left with 100% charge for long. Rapid charging or charging to 100% doesn't appear to affect the SOH much.
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Ideal battery charging behaviour also depends upon the battery chemistry AIUI. So my Model Y (LR) will be different from my friends Model Y (not).
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I have on rare occassions to maximise cross continent stints or to stretch to get home without another stop, rapid charged to 90% (ioniq 5 keeps decent rate of charge up) and don't anticipate any major issues as you say.
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