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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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4 people are feared taken by a large avalanche in Northern Norway. Tracks have been observed into a large 300 wide and 600 m long avalanche from a helicopter. Conditions have been too difficult for searching through the night. The area is popular for backcountry activities but avalanche prone and the terrain is steep.
https://www.nrk.no/troms/_-faren-er-stor-for-at-noen-er-tatt-av-skred-1.14363922
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Im Raum Wildalpen im Bezirk Liezen wollte das eine zwölfköpfige Touristengruppe allerdings offenbar nicht akzeptieren: Sie schoben das Sperrgitter zu einem lawinengefährdeten Bereich zur Seite und versuchten, abzureisen – eine Lawine verschüttete prompt die drei Autos. Rettungskräfte bargen die Urlauber unter hohem Risiko. Katastrophenreferent Schickhofer warnte daher eindringlich davor, die Sperren zu ignorieren – auch bei den Skipisten. „Die sind nicht zum Spaß da.“ |
Rough Translation = In Liezen a group of 12 tourists didn't want to accept that the road was closed due to avalanche risk and moved the roadblock to the side. They then tried to depart along the closed road and an avalanche quickly buried the 3 cars. The emergency services then dug the tourists out which put the emergency services under serious risk.
https://diepresse.com/home/panorama/oesterreich/5556118/Lawinentote-und-Vermisste_Situation-weiter-kritisch
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Skiing over at Lenk this morning I was struck by the significant surface hoare. Northwest Switzerland is due snow on Tues / Wednes. The snowpack will have a weak layer at this point so lets all heed avy advice.
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@stanton, WOW !
Some areas in Austria reached level 5 today. Today will again see lots of new snow before some less intense days. Another strong precipitation episode on Sunday/Monday. After that episode, we might finally see some stabilization of the weather which might improve the avalanche situation although it probably will take some time for good stabilization of the snowpack. Even if the prognosis for next week is uncertain, things might improve after the episode in the beginning of next week.
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Sad news from St Anton this evening. There has been a deadly accident in this afternoon. A 16 year old skied with his father, mother and brother and was taken by the avalanche. He unfortunatly died. The others remained unhurt.
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So, we've had no snow here for the last 3 weeks, avalanche risk 1, but what bothers me is when (if!) the snow arrives, it's going to be falling on a cold, hard, wind-polished base and I don't see any way a bond can form? We and others will be desperate to get out and shred, but surely this will mean a permanent, very weak bond in the snow pack for the rest of the season.........
Any thoughts?
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You know it makes sense.
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I am no expert but maybe and sadly, the safest bond may be a period of warming and or rain closely followed by snow?
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@KenX, Hope that the first snow that falls is warm and wet and gets gradually colder.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@RetroBod, @leggyblonde, thought of that, but unlikely in January...........
Unless the first snow comes in April
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@KenX, a warm front isn't that uncommon but agreed that up high it would be unlikely to be wet
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KenX wrote: |
So, we've had no snow here for the last 3 weeks, avalanche risk 1, but what bothers me is when (if!) the snow arrives, it's going to be falling on a cold, hard, wind-polished base and I don't see any way a bond can form? We and others will be desperate to get out and shred, but surely this will mean a permanent, very weak bond in the snow pack for the rest of the season.........
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All depends on what sort of temperature it is when the snow falls and how warm or cold the base is when it falls. You could have blizzards with high winds or snow falling around freezing point and anything in between. The wind will also be a factor in itself.
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KenX wrote: |
So, we've had no snow here for the last 3 weeks, avalanche risk 1, but what bothers me is when (if!) the snow arrives, it's going to be falling on a cold, hard, wind-polished base and I don't see any way a bond can form? We and others will be desperate to get out and shred, but surely this will mean a permanent, very weak bond in the snow pack for the rest of the season.........
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Try putting your tongue on the cold, hard, wind polished base and get back to me about how well it has bonded.
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@davidof, I'll get back to you....................
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An avalanche in Lech in Vorarlberg claimed three lives on Saturday. A fourth skier is missing. They all had avalanche equipment and abs backpacks. The avalanche happened north of the Rufikopf cable car. The avalanche danger was 3 on Saturday.
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Two friends died in an avalanche in Bansko on Friday gone. A group of 4 very experienced off-piste snowboard riders were going through a forest, when the avalanche was triggered. The area wasn't known as an avalanche black spot. As a matter of fact we did multiple descents in the very place in April 2018 and is normally considered safe due to the presence of pine trees, some of which are hundreds of years old.
The two riders were both equipped with the latest ABS backpacks, which were deployed. Sadly, such was the force of the avalanche and the multiple impacts in trees that when recovered, the ABSs were found ripped off their bodies, higher up the slope...
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@cheburator, sorry to hear that. Very sad news.
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@cheburator, again tragic news, and must have been brutal for them.
As someone who was caught in a slide a few years ago skiing what I thought was a safe line in the forest I sympathise.
Though in hindsight maybe at the time I should have thought why are these glades / open spaces between the trees there?
Just that in the trees maybe you switch off and think you are safe?
I know I did and will try not to make the same mistake again.
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@cheburator, sorry to hear that. Very sad news.
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yes, that's awful, commiserations
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cheburator wrote: |
The two riders were both equipped with the latest ABS backpacks, which were deployed. Sadly, such was the force of the avalanche and the multiple impacts in trees that when recovered, the ABSs were found ripped off their bodies, higher up the slope... |
US guides, who do a lot of treeline skiing, don't tend to use ABS in wooded areas as you tend to travel further and faster with the slide leading to a higher risk of trauma... something to consider for tree skiers.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@orange,
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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A piste controller has been killed by an avalanche in Champoussin in Valais, which is part of the Portes du Soleil area. The victim was 24 years old. Another piste controller was also swept but dug himself out. Thoughts to his family and respect to the avalanche controlers who are working in sometimes dangerous conditions.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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They forgot to close the hotel window.
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@DB, a few times in various threads, yes. Superb flying nevertheless.
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Wow
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@Ibexman2, that must feel rather satisfying, setting something like that off!
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