 Poster: A snowHead
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Arrived home late Saturday night from an awsome week skiing in Mayrhofen and so yesterday waxed my skis ready for dpearture again in 2 weeks (oh its a hard life)
Edged skis as per usual
waxed as per usual, (dripped on wax, then melted into base as always done)
left over night in garage
Went to scrape wax off this morning, some is comming off as per mornal, but some is comming off is larger pices, as if there are air bubbles underneath.
Is it too cold to scrape wax off?
Should I put skis in house to warm up a bit before scraping?
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is there something else going on?
all help appriciated.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Did you clean the old wax off first before applying the new wax?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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wiped the skis down with Meths
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Not sure what's going on but I'd clean with cleaning wax rather than meths. I'm no expert but I'm sure I've read NOT to use solvents to clean the base unless repairs are needed.
Would also recommend keeping the skis at room temp overnight if poss. I put mine in the airing cupboard - with permission!
Give Jon a call and ask him for advice? http://skituning.co.uk/
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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k1orange, How warm were the skis when you waxed them ?
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I did mine outside yesterday and no problems despite it being really chilly. Left the wax on for only about 30 minutes though, plenty long enough to cool yesterday.
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I'd not suggest using meths on the base.....
I'm GUESSING that you did not get the base/wax hot enough if it is coming off in "flakes" as the wax was not absorbed into the base and just melted and spread over the base.
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I also try and keep my skis warm when waxing- take them from the house and have a fan heater blowing over them to help the wax penetrate.
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I did use a fan heater, the wax looked as if it had penetrated the base, it warmed up and moved around very nicely, maybe it just warmed up but the beases were't warm enough to start.
Before scrapping it looks a good job, just bit off when I start scraping. Could the wax be too thick (i.e I'm putting too much wax on)
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k1orange, When you scrape - is there any wax left on the base.. if not, then the base was too cold when you waxed them. You can just reuse the iron to melt it again. But make sure that the skis are warm (i.e. left indoors overnight - not in the garage).
You need to be careful not to overheat the base, but I like to have the ski bend into reverse camber before I stop ironing... then I know the base is good and hot.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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What wax did you use?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Also make sure your scraper has not gone too blunt..It is uprising how getting the wax off is so much easier with a sharp scraper.
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how long since the bases were ground? belt or stone grinds in ski shops open the pores on the base and allow the wax to penetrate properly - or so i've been told lol i do a couple of home waxes then a shop service and never get problems but they always get done in a fairly warm worrkshop as well.
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You know it makes sense.
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Skis in the hall getting warm. How can you sharpen a plastic scraper.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| k1orange wrote: |
| How can you sharpen a plastic scraper. |
with a knife or with a credit card.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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hedley, You can just use a flat file....the edge needs to be sharp... but doesn't have to be 90 degrees .
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Lads I'm a bit confused here, when i wax my board i don't preheat it. Strip old wax (I use wax remover), then drip on wax, iron in etc.etc. When i start the board is at room temp - we run a cool enough house at approx 15deg and Ive never had a problem. I usually iron wax in once, allow to solidify but not fully cool and then run over again remelting and applying a little more pressure. So a question those of you saying 'skis too cold when you wax them', at what temp do you wax them and why? My biggest fear is overheating, so preheating doesn't seem right, but then I'm not trained at all.
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I screwed some sandpaper to my waxing table and simply run the scraper over that every now and again, seems to work fine!
rogg, I've never reheated my bases!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Surely the base heats up quite a bit when you're melting the wax in? I never pre-heat but my snowboard base gets pretty warm from the ironing of the wax. Sometimes i get the odd clump of wax after it cools as k1orange, described but i usually just assume that's excess wax. I don't get too excited about scraping, i just do a rough job off it then go over it with a steel pan scrubber which is much more efficient at taking off the remaining excess wax.
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I'm no expert, but I think there's a difference between cool wax and cold wax. Cool wax will scrape off nicely. Cold wax i.e. way below room temperature is too solid and just chips off, probably pulling wax from the base pores with it.
When waxing you can feel the heat coming through the top sheet, so you know the base is warm enough. I go over the whole base 2-3 times for added penetration (not sure if this helps tbh)
I wouldn't use a base cleaner unless doing a repair when you want as much wax out of the area as possible. IMHO a hot scrape will clean the base better than any cleaner. Residue from the cleaner will stay on the base and repel the wax.
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| Surely the base heats up quite a bit when you're melting the wax in? |
That's what i thought.
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| When waxing you can feel the heat coming through the top sheet, so you know the base is warm enough. I go over the whole base 2-3 times for added penetration (not sure if this helps tbh) |
That's what I do - by saying I let the wax solidify I usually find that by the time i've finished at one end, she's solidified at the other so I start again on the 'cool' end.
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Thanks for your help. I warmed skis up on radiator then re ironed skis, whilst fan heater going, left to cool and scraped. Look good now.
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II, On reflection about a minute after i posted a reply i did get it
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