 Poster: A snowHead
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snowboarding for 7 years but thinking of turning to skiing becacuse i enjoy wearing tight pants and skiing looks more sexy :P
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I would say a better bet would be to sit down with your board and tell him/her how you're feeling. Maybe suggest that it would be nice if it had a better way of dealing with long flats and cat-tracks. Ask him/her if it's ok to wear tight pants while riding. You never know what the response will be until you ask.
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ant x, I too have become a x-dresser. I've (just) managed to avoid ridicule by having two VERY different jackets and two hats.
Has to be said though, there are circumstances where ski’s rule and others where their only use is as firelighters.
WHEN are we going to get those muppets off the powder.
Also, on skis it’s a bit more rewarding when following a nice pert bottom (no blindside)
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Hee Hee! Love it! Ant x. Can you handle the apres ski Pimms though? 
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Hey Ant! Following a pert bottom- there's a thought. Don't reckon you would have too much trouble whether on ski's or a board!
I'd say stick to boarding, men look far sexier and i'd rather be taken out by a boarder than a skier any day!
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Helena,
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i'd rather be taken out by a boarder than a skier any day
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When a boarder takes you out, it's the full sideways moving mass of rider and board combined slamming into you anywhere from nipples to knees. When a skier takes you out, arms, legs, skis, poles, boots everywhere - no better really. When a skier-snowboarder (like me) takes you out, it's getting picked up, flowers, gentle flirtatious conversation, an exquisite meal in an exclusive setting, low-light, fine wine, discovering things in common, then a stroll in a magical setting, and a light-hearted but cosy escort home (+ optional extras as requested). The choice is yours. 
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oh er!! I can feel myself blushing at the thought 
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Well its better for us to have nice snow under the board & leave the rocks for the skiers who always have to follow! 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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When are skiiers gonna stop turning nice pistes into cut up moguls? 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I board and ski or do i ski and board im not sure which way round it should be...
But they are both better than Blades... 
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You know it makes sense.
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ant
just like to say me and my snowboard are getting on much better now ,its got a lot stiffer since holiday and were now talking more .Thanks but with the help of snowboarding counselling we will make it. p.s. now got to make up to my pants.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Sometimes i wonder whether i'd be better off with skis me and my board have some tremendous arguments, my board gets hysterical and its always the same thing..!
Board: "You only see me when you want a ride"
Me: "That's out of order i've taken you all round the world with me, i don't do that for just any old board"
Board: "Only so you can show-off to your friends, i don't want to be a trophy board and i'm sick of being a part-time arrangement, its the same every year, its starts off great then you ignore me for six months, i mean what is it..? What's...what's wrong with me?" (Starts crying)
Me: "There's nothing wrong with you, its just....."
Board: "Just what? Am i not good enough for you now, is that it? I suppose you want to trade me in for a newer model...? Don't think i have'nt noticed your wandering eye...! You're always eyeing up other boards, checking out their curves, do you think i'm blind..? I might be bit rough round the edges but, but i love you....sob!"
And on and on and on and on....!
Boards, you can't live with em you can't live without em...!
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Poster: A snowHead
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bullet,
You are right. You dont get that cr@p from a pair of skis!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Philip Prior, I'm with you. Skiers shouldn't be allowed to graduate to something longer than a snowblade until they've proved they can carve it. Maybe edge detuning should be banned. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Alan Craggs, Sorry, the only way is to shoot the egotistical little fwits. It’s nearly always juvenile testosterone fuelled peer pressure that gets them into those situations (that’s why you won’t find my crumbling cadaver bulldozing them). But it has to be said that there are skiers like that too but they have a greater propensity to take lessons and or practice.
But sincerely folks (oooo ugly flashback to Huey Green . . . It’s the flu and pain killers), it’s cos a board is dead easy to sideslip and will get you down pretty much anything and of course they’ll claim another ‘notch’ on the bedpost of their achievements. sad but true.
DB, sorry? you want to repeat that? I don’t recall you being ‘that’ far ahead and I’m nowhere near up to speed yet.
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| Masque wrote: |
| DB, sorry? you want to repeat that? I don’t recall you being ‘that’ far ahead and I’m nowhere near up to speed yet. |
I'm just reeling 'em in, didn't expect to get you on the hook though 
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DB, It's the Codine . . . I can either type or dribble with bouts of lucid pain every 6 hours . . .
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snowboarders are generally pricks because they sit on the pist and decide to sit in a line with all their friends and so anyone who skis behind at a fast speed has to break suddenly and ends up falling on top of them they really need to sort it out. ive seen so many accidents because of this,they should be more considerate and choose where to sit if they need to, instead of all over the piste, especially on narrow areas of a piste or round a corner.At least skiers have the descency to pull over at the side of the piste where it wont be a problem who agrees? so it definatly skiing for me 
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muttley, agreed that it is very annoying when boarders sit in the middle of runs. However, snowboarding is significantly more tiring than skiing (especially on long flats), so you often are forced to have little rests while boarding. But these rests should be taken at the edge of the piste, and with the boarders one in front of the other, not spread horizontally across the hill.
As for the side-slipping thing, even if you are a decent boarder on runs at your level, you still need to do it sometimes. I am mostly thinking about times when I hit massive ice sheets and lose my edge every time I try to turn. I lose my edge while side-slipping on this stuff as well, but at least it's less painfull than losing your edge while carving 
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ponder, If you're losing your edge you're just not dropping down into your bindings far enough. We boarders can carve a much lower angle and tighter turn than skis, just get lower, keep loose, get that rail in at a better angle and keep your weight forward. Normal reaction to ice is stiffen up and pull back . . . for that @rse/faceplant moment.
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Snowboard or ski?
Bottom line, it's your choice. Whatever floats your boat, as long as you have fun that's the main thing.
Never tried snowboarding but understand from some snowboarders (they can also ski) that a snowboard is the superior tool in soft snow, it's easier and much more fun.
IMHO skis are faster than a snowboard on piste. I sometimes ski with amateur ski racers but also ski with a few snowboaders/surfers in the powder who are good enough to be sponsored. The people in both groups have been on the snow since a very early age. Seen both groups go flat out on empty pistes, the skiers were far quicker. Just for the record Masque I didn't get out of 2nd gear when we skied together, I couldn't as there were far too many people around it would of been too dangerous (as I said at the time). I spent the two days waiting for clear sections and giving it a bit of a blast here and there but being careful not to get too far ahead so that I lost the group. Even when conditions permit for me to go full out the racers I ski with leave me standing so please don't use my recent performance as an indicator for who/what is quick or not.
There are a lot of good snowboarders around who made the switch a long time ago before recent developments in fat skis (we can thank snowboards for that). I have the feeling that if these snowboarders were to try a pair of fat skis they would realize that skiing powder is a lot more fun than it used to be on those long straight sticks.
On the piste, in the bumps and for backcountry touring I believe the ski is the better tool. Not sure if a board can carve a shorter radius but am sure the board is much slower edge to edge. The ironic thing is some boarders who have been trying to convert me to the darkside have started to take up skiing because they want to do backcountry touring. They have also realized that having a skier who will put in the first traverse in soft snow for them is a big plus too.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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muttley, ok, I'll bite....it's nice that you started with a pointless generalisation to completely invalidate your point of view. Someone as blinkered as you obviously does not deserve to appreciate the experience of boarding and so you are welcome to your narrow world. And of course skiers never stop in inconsiderate places do they? Oh no, they are, without exception, perfection personified. Yeah, right. Most skiers and boarders i know are considerate and are not "generally" pricks. Perhaps you need to open your eyes - that way you might spot people stopped in the middle of the piste before you crash into them.
If someone cannot stop suddenly without crashing, they are out of control. That is a far greater crime than being inconsiderate about a stopping point. I suggest you take a few more lessons if this is happening to you.
ponder, Masque is right, getting lower down, but keeping the weight over the edge, will improve grip on ice. I used to press down on the board more when i hit ise in order to try to bite more, but then you just push the board further from your centre of gravity - hence the bum plant that usually follows.
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| Dave J wrote: |
bullet,
You are right. You dont get that cr@p from a pair of skis! |
too true - skis are the whores of the snowsports world!
Most boards are monogomous and will be ridden exclusively by one person, who will in turn spend hours carefully tending to their errogenous zones of extruded p-tex in order to coax the best and most satisfying performance.
In contrast, most skis are pimped out to any passing punter willing to part with their money.
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ski's? snowboards? who gives a flyin feck! This debate is like... so last century, time to move on me thinks
Bottom line is as long as it gets you out the office, i personally would be quite willing to go down the piste on a dustbin lid!
Just chill people.
p.s. muttley - comments like that give skiiers as bad name so get over it. You could always olley over them of course..... oh, but you can only do that on a board.
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DB, good post
I ski and board and agree that having fun is what it's all about, that's why I do both. I love snowboarding because it makes easy runs fun again and because of the low speed tight radius carving. Skis are certainly MUCH faster on-piste, I don't think I've ever been overtaken by a snowboarder on-piste in the last 10yrs and I'm a good skier but nothing special. And you're right that modern skis make powder much easier than it used to be, but for me skiing in powder is more fun than snowboarding precisely because it's slightly more difficult. Masque is right that snowboarders can carve tighter turns, but this is just due to the gear, and is changing all the time. My board has a sidecut radius of only 8m, whereas my skis are 18m. But this years ultra-shaped skis eg Metron B5 are getting down to about 10-11m and in a few years time who knows?
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Poster: A snowHead
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muttley,
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Welcome to snowheads you t*sspot.!!
Tony Lane, you're quite right skiers are just as guilty of this, particularly the one piece clad radio touting sloanes and Frenchies. Snowboarders unlike skiers (who were, lest we forget...there first...!) are not as a rule following the misconceived conception that they own the slope. Also, unlike with skiing beginners at snowboarding are less visible on the slopes because they are invariably on their back, and muttley they can't always control where they fall. Skiers on the other hand are standing from day one and are therefore far more visible. True some snowboarders are inconsiderate and do sit across the middle of the piste but some skiers stand in equally inconvenient spots, so based on your logic muttley "skiers are generally pricks" We have piste etiquette for a reason, we avoid people beneath us and it is each individual's responsibility to do this.
I go away regularly with skiers, this year we swapped equipment for the day, it was my first time on skis and it was the easiest day i've had on the piste for ages. By easy i don't mean i was good, i picked it up reasonably well and the skiers said i did good, but by easy i mean physically. You should have heard the skiers moaning that evening about all their aches and pains, they had no idea how physically demanding snowboarding is on the whole body, unlike skiing where your legs do most of the work. Suddenly the skiers understood why snowboarders are always on their ar*e having a rest. Maybe you should think about trying this yourself muttley rather than making bigoted comments...!
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Well, looks like my problems with ice have alot more to do with lacking skills than the board itself I can cope fine with most ice, but every so often I run into those big sheets of totally exposed, super-hard ice, and lose my edge. I'll try to get lower and push harder on these in the future. Should probably sharpen my edges as well - they haven't had a sharpening in quite some time.
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Cool, will try this out. Should have no trouble finding ice at Whistler
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mate you need to chill mate i dont think skiers are the best im making a point for people to discuss and if your going to get so uptite maybe you shouldn't be on a website like this.its just the fact that ive had a lot of bad experiances with snowboarders my mum even broke her ankle once because there was a row of snowboarders and no way to pass, and so she couldn't brake in time and went right into them and went up the side of the piste, so maybe you can understand my point as well, in chairlift stations some of them have been really rood when all ive been doing is waiting to get on the chairlift.hope you dont get so pissed off with peoples comments any more.
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Here's my personal assessment of where each tool shines, taking both fun and practicality into consideration:
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Powder
Piste (both are equally capable here, but if I want a relaxing run down a wide piste I just have way more fun on a board)
Rails
Pipe
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Bumps
Chutes
Flats/traverses
Racing
Either:
Jumps
Glades
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Muttley, if you post "generally snowboarders are pricks......" in the snowboard forum on a snowsport website are you really suprised that some have taken offence?????? 
Don't have to be a rocket scientist......
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Muttley,you could always go back & edit your original post (If thats still possible) & then the damage is undone.
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