 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi
Basically won a raffle last night at the launch night for our Uni ski trip, for a pair of skis.
I have to specify what I want and they'll get me them, or a similar equivalent.
I'm a pretty decent skiier, have done a season as a technician, but really don't know a huge amount about skis. I'm looking for an all-mountain ski, probably with a 60-40 bias towards hard piste over powder, but want something that can do it all basically.
Last year I used a pair of what I thought were Rossignol B63, but I dont think they were called that now I've had a look on the web and cant find them. They were black with some white and yellow on them and I really liked them.
I have previously been a fan of K2s. Once tried some Salomon X-Wings and the set I tried I found too light.
Just done a quick look on the web, on Salomon, K2 and Rossignol's sites...
Found the following, as potential targets.
K2 - Raider 170
K2 - Sidewinder 170
Sal - XW Fury / XW Fury Z14 170
Ross - Zenith Z6 170
Any ideas on those skis, and indeed any other options hugely appreciated.
Cheers.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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charliew, nice one! Get a pair of these..... US$19,000 Carradan Mamba's! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Bit more info...
My favourite things about skiing include...
- Bombing down freshly groomed pistes at the first lift of the day, so like straight line speed and ability to do quick short turns
- Daisy chaining
- The odd jump
- Cruising through powder.
Just done some more research, becoming tempted by the XW Tornado above the Fury.
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charliew, awesome! Welcome to Snowheads.
What's your height / weight?
Actually I don't know that much about these sorts of skis, but someone will... As a young guy wanting 60/40 balance I would suggest a Volkl Mantra or a Bridge, k2 Extreme, Salomon Lord or Rossi S3 BC
All of these skis are much more versatile, more fun and will get you laid a much more than some of your suggestions...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Im 6ft and something like 75-80kg. Have always preferred a slightly shorter ski, so something 165-170 as opposed to 170-180.
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charliew, I'm 6'1" and around 85kg at the moment, normally 80kg - hey I'm athletic OK? FWIW most of my skis are 190+
With twin tips they just sound long, makes for much better bar bragging rights. A super stiff piste ski sounds right for you around 170, but in a twin that would give you an effective edge of around a ski more like 160-163cm. If you go for something with a little more street cred and end up with a twin then you need to be something like 175-183cm.
What fun for you. I'd like to win some skis. 
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Where is your uni trip to?
And you can choose any pair of skis?
I can 100% recommend the suggestion nbt made, movement make fantastic skis.
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nbt, not that unusual. Movement are among the top of freeride skis, but since their "narrow" (~80mm) waisted skis are still very good on hardpack, something in their lineup may very well please charliew.
Now if I wanted to do what he writes (And i happen to be pretty much exactly his dimensions)... And needed 1 ski to do it all... a 183 Spark will work for me... (And I also like my skis 'short' and agile). Despite its lenght is definetly easy to move that ski.
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Ronald, I saw 4 other pairs of movement skis last season, a lot rarer than Salomon or the like 
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I've spent quite a bit of time on twin tips and I've really gone off them. I've never found a pair that I can have that much fun on piste with relative to a good carving ski. I tried the whole salomon range (thruster, foil,gun etc) and had fun, but the next few days after that went on some dynastar legend 8000 then some rossy bandits and just had a much better time of it.
ill have a look at these movements....
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ah nice. Thought you might be off to Val Thorens like it seems every other uni in the country is doing!
If you really like your speed on piste then I'd suggest getting something with a semi large radius, around 15-20+. I'd also suggest going longer as you'll have so much more stability, but I guess that's up to you. I have some Salomon Equipe SC that are 'built for speed', but I find that at any kind of real speed all they want to do is turn too sharply. Hence my Movements (Gladiators) I prefer to ski on piste, and when it comes to off piste they obviously are much more suitable than the Sallies. I do tend to recommend my Gladiators to everyone though as I believe they are a pretty damn good all round ski.
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Spikyhedgehog, good to know as my flames have been complemented by 183 Gladiators for this season
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You know it makes sense.
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| Spikyhedgehog wrote: |
| Ah nice. Thought you might be off to Val Thorens like it seems every other uni in the country is doing! |
Mine included 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Salomon Tornados look very appealing. All the reviews im reading on the net emphasise the on piste abilities of the ski, with also an ability to go off piste, yet on the salomon website it seems to stress the opposite. hmmmmmmm
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Charliew, I can 100% guarantee u would love the Fischer Fuse 76. The revamped AMC 76 from last season, they get amazing write ups, ski like race skis on piste (i had a pair) but r capable of doing off piste (around 70/30 or 60/40 I can't remember). I know exactly what u want from a ski as I am the same. I kind of wanted twin tips for hitting park and powder, but NOTHING is as satisfying as tearing up a perfect piste throwing ur skis into turns and coming out like a slingshot faster on the other side. Check them out, I was surprised how many staff in the specialist ski shops own them themselves, and that is always a good sign. Hope this helps.
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I've just reread what I've written and it seems like I work for Fischer! Just a cracking ski, I'm a seasonnaire too, and although most of my mates had twin tips, my skis shat all over them when it came to slalom courses or just generally mashing up the piste
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'Twin tips' is such a crap label for skis. Yes they have tips at both ends, but the difference between models is huge. Some twins are shite, just as some slalom skis are equally shite.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Anyone else got views on the Fischers, they do look pretty good.
Pretty annoyed that I cant demo before buying but thats the way this works.
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Charliew - go for the movement kama sutra. the best all round ski (in, not just my opinion), these ski's will be everything you need.
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Really? Quick web search tells me the Kama Sutras are Park Skis
MOVEMENT
KAMASUTRA £399
This is movement's top park ski. They are responsive, smooth and like to be skied aggressively.
Advanced and expert freestylers, or heavier learners will get a lot of use out of these. Let's talk graphics.
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Got a shortlist in front of me
Fischer Fuse 76 170
K2 Outlaw 170
K2 Xplorer 170
Movement Spark 173
Sal XW Tornado (Ti) 170
any thoughts?
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i think you'll find it's billed as a park ski, but is one of the best all mountain ski's.
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better all mountain ski than the Sparks?
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K2 Coomba?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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yep.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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X-Wing Torndado is a nice ski. I ended up buying the X-Wing Blast a couple of years back (which, I believe, is exactly the same except without the wood-core + it was cheaper).
I tested quite a few skis, and for me, the Tornado/Blast was by far the most fun and easiest to use.
It's also made my forays off-piste a whole lot easier and more enjoyable. However, if you think you're going to end-up doing loads and loads of off-piste, I guess a fatter ski might be better.
For your info, I'm about 5'11" and 85kg and have the 170cm - which seems to work fine for me.
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charliew,
Rossi, Salomon, K2 all do good skis look on the snow& Rock and Ellis Brigham websites and pick a ski that gives you the 60/40% piste/off piste performance you want. They are all good nowadays. Only a real expert will notice the subtle difference between skis. There's just too much hype and ***** about.
Length wise should be between shoulder and head height.
If you haven't got a good pair boots ask them if you have boots they are more important when it comes to how well you ski and how enjoyable it is.
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You know it makes sense.
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Gave them my shortlist, just got to wait and see what is awaiting me in Tignes when I get there!
Cheers for all the feedback.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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get the ones with the coolest grafix 
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