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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I was away in Canada one year when I met someone who was travelling on their own. They often travelled to Canada from the UK with a tour operator, but left it very late until booking. She said this way she got good deals.
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JP, not personally but I have friends who have gone/are going on their own. My advice would be to book it all independently. For Whistler I would use an owner direct website like Allura. If you go for a couple of weeks and/or off peak then it's good leverage when asking for a deal/discount. Find a bunch of properties that you like (and a studio would be perfect for one), send emails and negotiate.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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geetee, Cheers might just try that. 
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| uktrailmonster wrote: |
I disagree. East coast skiing is quite often icy hardpack. . |
Much less often in Feb/March.
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JP, book a flight via zoom and stay in a hostel last year I think I paid about £500 for 14 nights accomodation including a tri area lift pass every day for LL and sunshine etc etc
I am off to Jackson hole in less than 4 weeks and staying in a hotel 19 days in a nice hotel with a pool and my flights is coting me under £800 ! it can be done 
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JP, probably not the best to advise on value trips, but both times I've gone skiing in Canada (Whistler) I have booked it all myself. Okay, the final cost was around £1500 (flights, transfers and accom, inc one night in Vancouver), but it could be done cheaper if you stay somewhere else and used Zoom instead of BA (I use all my money for holidays, so I splash out - having eaten dog food all year to save up...). Still, that was a bargain compared to what I would have paid via a TO (the same worked out at about £2000+ without the extra night in Vancouver and without the flight day flexibility).
Alternatively, let me know your dates - I'm always up for a trip to Canada, and it would save everyone single supplements!
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| abc wrote: |
| uktrailmonster wrote: |
I disagree. East coast skiing is quite often icy hardpack. . |
Much less often in Feb/March. |
Maybe, you'd probably know better than I. But you're never going to sell me the idea that East Coast skiing is in the same class as West Coast or Europe.
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| uktrailmonster wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
| uktrailmonster wrote: |
I disagree. East coast skiing is quite often icy hardpack. . |
Much less often in Feb/March. |
Maybe, you'd probably know better than I. But you're never going to sell me the idea that East Coast skiing is in the same class as West Coast or Europe. |
nobody ever say it is. that's the point. the point is not everybody wants or even needs "world class" skiing.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Yeah sure, that's why I mentioned that people might want to ski the East Coast for reasons other than pure skiing - culture, different atmosphere, etc. But it's absurd to say that on-piste conditions are pretty much the same in any resort (I think that's what you were saying earlier in this thread?). They're far from the same in my experience.
If we stick to the pure skiing experience, there's not a lot of point in people living in the UK crossing the Atlantic to ski the East Coast when there are so many World class resorts only a couple of hours away in Europe. Only the West Coast resorts offer a (different) skiing experience arguably worth the trip for the skiing alone.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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there's not a lot of point in people living in the UK crossing the Atlantic to ski the East Coast when there are so many World class resorts only a couple of hours away in Europe.
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I didn't exactly say there is (any point). But it was pointed out due to different holiday schedules for the two continents, it's actually CHEAPER to ski east coast of US than Europe, despite Europe being closer.
I think that's the point many people fail to understand.
From New York I can get to Utah in less time than I can to Europe. However, it's actually cheaper to ski in Europe during US school holidays (most of March). Sure, the snow is generally more reliable in Utah. But that's not always the ONLY purpose of a ski holiday.
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| abc wrote: |
| Sure, the snow is generally more reliable in Utah. But that's not always the ONLY purpose of a ski holiday. |
Snow is the main reason for me and I would guess most others on a dedicated ski forum like this. But I take your point, there are other factors.
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You know it makes sense.
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Looking at the snow reports, Aspen definitely isn't worth it at the minute. They've only had 52" of snow in the last week.
...if only we were going there in 9 days time... 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| uktrailmonster wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
| Sure, the snow is generally more reliable in Utah. But that's not always the ONLY purpose of a ski holiday. |
Snow is the main reason for me and I would guess most others on a dedicated ski forum like this. But I take your point, there are other factors. |
It's natural to make the assumption that most snowheads are dedicated skiers whose go on ski holidays mainly to ski. But if you look at the questions asked, I'm sure you realize that assumption is not always valid. Right in the middle of this thread, one snowhead pointed out skiing the US east coast is cheaper than skiing Europe during half term time! Did you notice the frequency of people asking about skiing in Bulgaria and such?
When I said snow is GENERALLY more reliable in Utah, there're sometimes exceptions. When someone make a last minute booking in the east coast (or Bulgaria for that matter), they could wait till snow condition was well established before commiting.
If everyone is ONLY skiing the best snow, there wouldn't have been as many ski resorts as there're all over the world. It's clear many, even dedicated skiers occsionally, go on holidays when skiing is only PART of the purpose instead of the SOLE purpose.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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In Copper Mountain 2 years ago and Winter Park 10 years ago wonderful time however long flight and more expensive, we now go to France, good old VT does us fine sure snow, good slope side chalets etc. USA is a experience not to be missed, food very fatty and all burgers and chips so dont go if you hate that. However lots of supermarkets to buy fresh veg and fruit.
sking was the best, with 2 young children it was a great holiday and snow loads of it. Very cold but so is VT
good luck
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| KATHMCGREGOR wrote: |
| Very cold but so is VT |
Presumably VT is short for Vermont?
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| abc wrote: |
| uktrailmonster wrote: |
| abc wrote: |
| Sure, the snow is generally more reliable in Utah. But that's not always the ONLY purpose of a ski holiday. |
Snow is the main reason for me and I would guess most others on a dedicated ski forum like this. But I take your point, there are other factors. |
It's natural to make the assumption that most snowheads are dedicated skiers whose go on ski holidays mainly to ski. But if you look at the questions asked, I'm sure you realize that assumption is not always valid. Right in the middle of this thread, one snowhead pointed out skiing the US east coast is cheaper than skiing Europe during half term time! Did you notice the frequency of people asking about skiing in Bulgaria and such?
When I said snow is GENERALLY more reliable in Utah, there're sometimes exceptions. When someone make a last minute booking in the east coast (or Bulgaria for that matter), they could wait till snow condition was well established before commiting.
If everyone is ONLY skiing the best snow, there wouldn't have been as many ski resorts as there're all over the world. It's clear many, even dedicated skiers occsionally, go on holidays when skiing is only PART of the purpose instead of the SOLE purpose. |
I reckon you could get a job as tourist promoter for Glenshee
The ONLY reason you would ski somewhere like Bulgaria is to save some money, which is undoubtedly a valid reason but not worthy of much debate. If Bulgaria was a 9 hour flight away from the UK and more expensive than skiing in France, Austria etc, people wouldn't be asking about it. But the main point of this thread was to discuss whether or not NA is worth the long trip and usually higher cost over the major European resorts. Presumably we were also discussing skiing as the main focus of the trip 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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