 Poster: A snowHead
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Do you think a boot flex of 90 is a bit stiff for an intermediate male, average / slight build, about 4 to 5 weeks experience, basic parallel?
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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beanie1, Ooooooooooooooooooooh, my favorite subject!!!!! 
Ok, to save me time and endless paragraphs, you need to follow me and just answer the questions, there's no wrong answers.
Q1, What is a flex of 90?
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Fri 10-08-07 18:27; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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A1, It's stiffer than a flex of 80, and softer than a flex of 100
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veeeight, Top of the class, but your numbers 80,100, what scale of measurement are you using? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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salomon use it
Falcon Race - 120
Falcon 10 - 110
Impact Pro - 120
Impact 8 - 90 (one I'm talking about)
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beanie1, but what does it all mean? I'm a 100 in my own mind.
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beanie1,
No idea, i was hoping someone else might know!
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Newton took a meter stick.
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| Do you think a boot flex of 90 is a bit stiff for an intermediate male, average / slight build, about 4 to 5 weeks experience, basic parallel? |
If I may suggest the following algorithm:
1. Stick boots on feet.
2. Do them up as if you're going skiing.
3. Attempt to flex.
4. If you can't flex, they're too stiff.
5. If you can flex them really easily then they're too soft.
6. Repeat.
SMALLZOOKEEPER & veeeight - what do you think? (I'm sure this could be finessed - but I'm sure you see my point.)
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beanie1, the gist of it is that there is no accepted standard for 'flex' therefore different manufacturers are different and can not be compared.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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beanie1,
follow PhillipStanton's suggestion.... as a big person might flex them more and a lighter person..bla bla..
Other factors like speed/lack of etc might apply more or less leverage.
On the face of it, I'd say this is the type of flex that that person might target... but that person needs to try them on to get a better feel.
A decent fitting is the place to start in a shop with as wide a range of stock that you can find.
At 5 weeks that person might not have the best appreciation of what is good about a boot and the reason why that person might need forgivess and flex in a boot or ski, is because that person might not be able to put the skis in the best place accurately enough.
A boot that is too stiff at this stage will probably set their skiing progress back, IMV
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| JT wrote: |
| A boot that is too stiff at this stage will probably set their skiing progress back, IMV |
Good point JT.
beanie1 - it's worth considering that you'll be better off with a boot that's too soft than one that's too hard. (IMHO).
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You know it makes sense.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER,
What's more important flex or lateral stiffness?
P.S What's the difference 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, I've the Technica Alu Icon Carbon (04/05 I think) I wear them as they came out of the box, not been fitted or touched in any way but I can still clump around in them at the end of the day without much discomfort at all. But I've no idea how stiff these are in comparison to any other boot, but I'd be curious to know. They were on sale at 200Eu and didn't hurt when I put them on.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Masque, great boot - I used to have a pair - too good for me.
I've now got boots that go to 11.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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the gist of it is that there is no accepted standard for 'flex' therefore different manufacturers are different and can not be compared.
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SHello, The Industry standardised in 2005, however this winter (2007/2008) will be the first year all resistance readings are printed on every boot. Dalbello being the exception last year due to 3 piece design. (FOXY )
The test is as follows; take a ski boot in size 26.5 adjust all buckles to the halfway point (this is where a certain amout of margin lies). Close boot with liner and control temperature to 15 degrees (c). Now flex boot 10 degrees(angle), 30,000 times (percieved fatigue). Now measure the energy used to achieve this. Divide by 30,000 and voila, your flex index. I hand over to my Seppo mate here(comprex, ) As i understand it it's measured in Newtons, this is where i go to the coffee machine.
PhillipStanton,
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it's worth considering that you'll be better off with a boot that's too soft than one that's too hard. (IMHO).
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However it's alot more work and less dynamic to increase the flex of a boot, than reduce it. (Krypton accepted.)
stewart woodward, Lateral stiffness effects edge pressure(angle) and transission speed. Longitudial stiffness effects turn initiation and energy build up(acceleration).
Masque, That boot would have probably come out at around 140kn, the plastic was poor, offered no progression(consitancy through it's 10 degrees of resitance.) But awesome transmission, proving all this FLEX CHAT is subjective! 
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