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London's Telegraph Ski Show ... re-branded

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... as 'The Telegraph Ski and Snowboard Festival'

https://www.snowindustrynews.com/articles/45th-london-ski-show-becomes-telegraph-s-alpine-festival

Dates: 25-28 October, Battersea Evolution, Battersea Park
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A good move.

'Festival' is the buzzword of the moment and more accurately describes the offering.
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Comes with a bit of pressure to actually have a line up of music that people would pay to see in its own right though shirley?

I'm obviously highly cynical about the Ski show as it's worth has declined. Wouldn't be surprised if the end game is a "alpine street food festival" where you pay a ridiculous amount to get in and eat overpriced tartiflette and currywurst in the rain.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Comes with a bit of pressure to actually have a line up of music that people would pay to see in its own right though shirley?

I'm obviously highly cynical about the Ski show as it's worth has declined. Wouldn't be surprised if the end game is a "alpine street food festival" where you pay a ridiculous amount to get in and eat overpriced tartiflette and currywurst in the rain.


I fear it's not for you or many like you who get plenty of the real thing.

But for Londoners looking for a different day/night out it certainly fits the bill.

And for out-of-towners you can easily recoup the cost of admission in freebies, sign ups and savings. Easily.

It's on an upward trajectory which can only be a good thing IMHO.

And if I was a Neilsen, Inghams, Crystal or the like I would definitely be holding interviews for seasonal workers at the same venue over the course of the festival.

There's plenty wrong with the format - Press Day being my biggest bugbear - but they're trying to make it relevant, contemporary and value for money.

It would be a real shame if it finished and customers didn't have the opportunity to speak with real people working in the industry.

And no I don't work for the Telegraph but have reperesented companies and destinations at the show over the years.

And have also been a customer and received invaluable information on out of the way destinations which has resulted in great holidays e.g. Gudauri, Georgia
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Used to go most years when it was accessible. Battersea is a PITA for tube and decent overground connections unlike Olympia and Earls Court. I see that re positioning as an "experience" is the only way it ultimately survives but I'd far rather have a couple of hours in a snowdome or on a dry slope if I wanted an experience like going skiing.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Used to go most years when it was accessible. Battersea is a PITA for tube and decent overground connections unlike Olympia and Earls Court. I see that re positioning as an "experience" is the only way it ultimately survives but I'd far rather have a couple of hours in a snowdome or on a dry slope if I wanted an experience like going skiing.


As I suspected above, it's not for you.

And for most a ski holiday should be written holiday ski.


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@Dave of the Marmottes, the past few years Hemel have offered a free hours ski if you go and collect a voucher from them. Two birds, one stone.
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I thought the early bird pricing was quite reasonable, and unlike previous years I'll probably put my hand in my pocket instead of trying to blag free entry.
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Sounds OK...I would like to see Marcus Brigstocke but it doesn't say which day he is on so not likely to buy a ticket in case its the wrong day.

edit: moot point -I am away
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Mike Pow wrote:
And for most a ski holiday should be written holiday ski.


Neither actually, since ski and holiday are both nouns. But I don't know what you are getting at.
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He's suggesting for most punters a ski holiday is first and foremost a holiday where skiing is just one of the things they do e.g. besides eating out, nice lunches on the terrace, banging apres, banging after apres (while the kids are still in creche), chill in the pool, let the kids sledge or build snowmen etc. These are "people who ski". We of course as "skiers" are different.
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Bizarre! I was part way thru reading this thread when I stopped to watch my dog eating my dinner scraps. I looked back down at my IPad to see that I had accidentally clicked on @dogwatch and was about to send them a blank message!

Cannot make it up! Laughing
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
He's suggesting for most punters a ski holiday is first and foremost a holiday where skiing is just one of the things they do e.g. besides eating out, nice lunches on the terrace, banging apres, banging after apres (while the kids are still in creche), chill in the pool, let the kids sledge or build snowmen etc. These are "people who ski". We of course as "skiers" are different.


Spot on
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Oh dear, I'm a person who skis then. That's put me in my place.
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dogwatch wrote:
Oh dear, I'm a person who skis then. That's put me in my place.


Not at all.

When I go on holiday to the snow the skiing is part of my overall holiday.

And the majority of people attending the Telegraph show /festival are the same.
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dogwatch wrote:
Oh dear, I'm a person who skis then. That's put me in my place.


Nothing to be ashamed of. Even the most committed skiers become people who ski at times of the day or week
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Oh dear, I'm a person who skis then. That's put me in my place.


Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Oh dear, I'm a person who skis then. That's put me in my place.

As opposed to a skier who's a person Laughing
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Not quite Jeremy Paxman, but there is an interview with the show organiser on the latest episode of The Ski Podcast:
http://theskipodcast.com/podcast/e19-new-lifts-in-val-disere-london-ski-show-hiring-ski-clothing/

Apparently there is a famous duo coming but name still under wraps...
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Let's hope it wasn't the Chuckle Brothers. Fingers crossed for Jedward.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Laughing
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I too had become deeply cynical about the ski show as the last time I went-in 2014- it was a shadow of it's former self. However, that year we both entered the Telegraph prize draw and Mr P won a week's chalet holiday for 6 (albeit in April) in Verbs. Sod's law meant I had to work so couldn't go.
At the same show Mr P Junior, then a spotty 18 year old, got his first instructor job in Japan and hasn't looked back since! (currently in Treble Cone NZ, coaching free ride and also doing some filming-lucky sod!).
By October, I am gagging for anything snow related, so who knows, we may go for a laugh.
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It does look fun, it's just a bit of a pain to get to (and get home from). I guess we could make a weekend of it and stay up in London, but my OH isn't really into skiing so would be bored!!
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@HoneyBunny, If you did stay there's the Pestana Chelsea Hotel practically opposite who do good weekend deals. There are 137, 452 and 44 bus routes by the park and Sloane Square tube only an 8 minute walk, plus a new riverboat service. Great places to eat in the Power Station development.
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Stil, not overly expensive for a family ticket for a day (if you are not traveling far) with its activities etc.

We are going on the Saturday, anyone else?
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Swissie wrote:
@HoneyBunny, If you did stay there's the Pestana Chelsea Hotel practically opposite who do good weekend deals. There are 137, 452 and 44 bus routes by the park and Sloane Square tube only an 8 minute walk, plus a new riverboat service. Great places to eat in the Power Station development.


I'd be up for a bit of that!. I went last year for the 1st time. Left early to get the train down from the Midlands, to find that the train was a bus to Luton Parkway. So decided to drive down. Stuck on the motorway. So undeterred. I got off the motorway, got a slow train to London. Cab across the city. I arrived with an hour and a half to the end of the show on a Sunday,. Quite disappointed by what remained of the event. Yes it was raining Yes I had dodgy Alpine fare for my tea.
So determined to give it my full attention this year and go the night before with Mrs LW, who true to form isn't interested in Skiing at all but does enjoy a cultural trip to the Capital. Sarchi Gallery near by and a night out in the West end. Fingers crossed for 2nd time lucky
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@LeglesWonder, And a wonderful food market at Duke of York Yard (where the Saatchi Gallery is) on Saturdays for Mrs LW, plus great shops......sorry Very Happy ,
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@LeglesWonder, And a wonderful market at Duke of York Square (where te Saatchi Gallery is) on Saturdays for Mrs LW.


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We went on Sunday last year and found things were winding down before the official end time, food stopped, retailers closing and leaving to get out of London. Probably natural after 4 days.

Thats part of the reason we are going on Saturday this year.
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Agreed. But highly annoying and should not be allowed. Mrs LW is a Potter and has been at many events and isn't allowed to pack up until it's Finnished.
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Well I am somewhat sympathetic to both views. A pain when you are paying to go but I understand that a lot come from outside London and have been there for four days over school holidays when I imagine some have kids that they might want to see. Maybe they should change the Sunday finish time to better manage expectations. The slope show went on until the end though and I think you could still get a drink.
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@ster, maybe people who have booked stands should honour their contractual commitments to the paying public. If wanting to see their kids takes precedence over that they are in the wrong business. They know their travelling time when they book the stand
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Massive bugbear of mine. Bad management. Pure and simple.

When I had my own stand / represented other companies I purposely stayed to the end.

Why wouldn't you? I was there to sell / promote. Can't do that if I'm not there.

Anyone who leaves early has money to burn IMHO.

And the 'press day'.

If there was an interested member of the public at the stand the same time as a journalist I would respectfully ask the journalist to wait a moment.

If they didn't that spoke volumes about the journalist and reinforced whether I would advertise with / recommend their publication.

They are not gods.


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Not just last day. I remember going after work on a Thursday a couple of times and you really needed to get round the stands you were interested in in the first hour before the staff buggered off to other stands or the pub to drink with their mates (despite there being 2 hours opening left)
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
before the staff buggered off to other stands or the pub to drink with their mates


At least a better reason that seeing the kids!

Not defending the practice but understand why it happens on the Sunday. Also can't say I know what the contractual arrangements are and what they entail. I would have thought the organisers would do something about it (if they were still on-site themselves) as not great for their customers.
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Not defending the practice but understand why it happens on the Sunday. Also can't say I know what the contractual arrangements are and what they entail. I would have thought the organisers would do something about it (if they were still on-site themselves) as not great for their customers.


I think you have to realise what the "public show" racket entails. Organisers book a venue and incur overhead - they then try to maximise revenues from exhibitors and the public. Too few public and exhibitors will be hacked off, too few exhibitors and the public will be hacked off. And as always brinksmanship rules so the "early bird ticket sales" are key to persuading exhibitors that punters will show and stopping the public waiting until the day to see what the weather's like. No-one really cares about whether the punters really get what was advertised once they are there.
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Well the vagaries of life and the best laid plans ........a demanded half term trip out of London and only back late on Saturday has required a change of day for us to Sunday so definitely getting there early.

Anyone else there on Sunday?
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