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Hi All.

I thought I'd give you all a wee tip. I hope this is the correct place because it is related to trips (MODs feel free to move). Now many of you know @admin had a lovely trip in Japan two years ago and he was amazed that it was cheaper to fly from Milan via Heathrow (LHR) that from LHR direct.

Also some of you know that I fly a lot lung haul so here is a top tip for finding either cheap flights (economy is about the same) or a way to get at least one leg in Premium economy for economy price.

Or just a neat way to avoid the BA multi city tool (which is terrible). You can use it for other airlines but I use BA because of baggage restrictions on others.

(Edited due to link not populating)
Say you wanted to go to Tokyo in October but the premium economy was expensive. Well try this

Go to
https://matrix.itasoftware.com/

In the from do LHR to Tokyo and check the price.

Now check the price for Premium economy. Hmm quite a jump


Note this is the good bit for folk that can get a cheap flight to the continent or live in mainland europe.

In the from copy and paste this

AMS;ARN;ATH;BRU;BUD;CAI;CPH;DUB;FCO;FRA;HEL;IST;LCA;LIN;LIS;MAD;MLA;OSL;OTP;PAR;PRG;PSA;SOF;VIE;WAW :: BA+

and type in to Tokyo on the same dates you can get some really cheap deals. Obviously this is an extreme case but you can simply use your local airport codes or airports near you or easy to get to. I use GLA, EDI, DUB (Dublin is especially good for USA flights)

If on mainland europe and you live between Milan and Rome so can go to either.

EG Rome FCO to Tokyo 1650 euros premium economy

type in FCO, MIL and you get an out leg from Milan in business class to Rome then the same premium economy tickets for 1276 euros a saving of 374 euros/person. Train from Rome to Milan is cheap and if a family is going it can save over 1000 euros

Also by sticking in an extra leg you can sometimes get the Premium cabin at Economy price.

Have a play and see what you can save.


Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 1-07-17 13:44; edited 1 time in total
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EG GLA to Tokyo in premium. £2k Ouch.

Using AMS I get

AMS-FCO Economy
FCO to Tokyo Premium
Back Premium and Business
1400 euros

On Cathay I get Business out and Premium back for less than BA premium.
1700 euros
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@GlasgowCyclops, Thanks for that. My daughter is currently living in New Zealand so this could be really useful for me. Very Happy
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Do you have to complete the whole trip? Think I've read before that you do, but I can save a lot by flying to San Diego from Oslo to LHR, same return. Getting off at LHR and not completing makes it easier to get home. Haven't the energy to trawl through flyertalk forum!
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Iski wrote:
@GlasgowCyclops, Thanks for that. My daughter is currently living in New Zealand so this could be really useful for me. Very Happy


If you are going you can do a multi trip with a stopover at SIN. You can also save money by putting it in a package. EG if you stop at SIN and book in the Village Hotel Katong (my usual in Singapore) you can get the hotel included for the same price as the flight. Happy Use Matrix to find the flight and phone something like Dial a flight for the package. If it is just a flight then the airline direct is usually cheaper.
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endoman wrote:
Do you have to complete the whole trip? Think I've read before that you do, but I can save a lot by flying to San Diego from Oslo to LHR, same return. Getting off at LHR and not completing makes it easier to get home. Haven't the energy to trawl through flyertalk forum!


Hi Endoman

BA are checking up on uncompleted runs but in a random way. If you split so land at LHR and transfer to LGW I've read it is not so scrutinised. However, don't take my word for it. I've read it on FlyerTalk
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GlasgowCyclops wrote:
endoman wrote:
Do you have to complete the whole trip? Think I've read before that you do, but I can save a lot by flying to San Diego from Oslo to LHR, same return. Getting off at LHR and not completing makes it easier to get home. Haven't the energy to trawl through flyertalk forum!


Hi Endoman

BA are checking up on uncompleted runs but in a random way. If you split so land at LHR and transfer to LGW I've read it is not so scrutinised. However, don't take my word for it. I've read it on FlyerTalk


Ta, gives me some ideas for getting 2 of us to SAN and back
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@endoman, generally uncompleted trips get untaken legs cancelled.

So if you tried to travel OSL-LHR-SFR for example, you wouldn't be allowed to start at LHR.

Also, airlines (and this happened to me with BA) check for obvious back to backing and cancel what appear to be fare breaches.
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Ta, only leg I may not complete would be the LHR - OSL leg, but would need hand luggage only. An afternoon in Oslo might be interesting!
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Should also mention that Google bought ITA so it's interface is not so sexy anymore. But very flexible.
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You can often leave the last "redundant" leg to a time when you need it. For example, I'm off to Chamonix in August using the leftover Lhr-Gva flight from a US trip I did in April. Edit - for clarity, my route was CPH-LHR-JFK-BOS-SFO-LHR-GVA, and adding that final GVA flight on made the ticket over £4K cheaper!

I would add that whilst these fees are very attractive and I use them a lot (I've flown half a dozen such eu-originating long hauls in the past year) there hundreds if not thousands of posts on flyertalk about the wrinkles and complexities. I'd think carefully about booking one without at least reading the ex-eu planning guide on the BA forum there.

@under a new name, was the ita interface ever sexy? I don't recall it ever being anything other than arcane commands and acronyms. Google flights is much nicer and faster but way less flexible.
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shall do some homework, it will depend on if I have to overnight etc. There is a big saving to be made for 2 of us, but the extra hours / days are a hassle when self employed.
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