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Vegan Food on the Piste - Sainte Foy

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Hey Folks,

I am heading to Sainte foy next week with my partner, and both of us are Vegan. It's the first time I've been to the alps since becoming vegan and I'm a bit worried, there won't be anything to eat. I always had heavy meat and cheese based meals when skiing in Austria and can imagine France being worse. Either any restaurants that would accommodate us, or advice on food to take on the hill. I'm not wanting to live off Fries for 4 days.

Thanks,

James
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There is no word in either French or Austrian for vegan.






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Sainte Foy restaurants do a mean Salad Vert, but don't take the dressing Razz
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There is no word for vegetable in alpine dialects - if it doesn't walk, squalk, flap, moo or grunt or issue from the udders of the same it isn't a foodstuff. Except myrtilles of course.
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@stewart woodward, the dressing being St Marcellin and Lardons?

Veganism is taking hold in France; like in the uk, it is very much on-trend, but only in the larger cosmopolitan cities.


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Ham, bacon, lardons, sausage, salami, eggs, cheese... All vegetables or at least I've heard them described as such in the Alps. The majority of restaurant staff don't understand the concept of vegitarian so your chances with vegan are slim to none.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
... Except myrtilles of course.


And they're probably set in gelatin.
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It's the first time I've been to the alps since becoming vegan and I'm a bit worried, there won't be anything to eat.


I handle Mrs Gorilla's vegetarianism by ordering her pizza at lunch (I speak French, she doesn't) and then scratch cooking dinner/breakfast. Obviously, pizza is off the menu for you and, while I have no specific knowledge of St Foy, I don't think I've ever seen a vegan option on a French alpine menu. I'd go porridge for breakfast, make up a mixed nut/dark chocolate mix for snacking on the hill and then scratch cook dinner.
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Ham, bacon, lardons, sausage, salami, eggs, cheese... All vegetables or at least I've heard them described as such in the Alps. The majority of restaurant staff don't understand the concept of vegitarian so your chances with vegan are slim to none.
Slim will be the operative word......as you'll get nothing to eat. Laughing
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The alpine diet has succeeded in reducing the five food groups down to three, carbs, protein and cheese. Good luck eating bread and chips for a week...
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adithorp wrote:
Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
... Except myrtilles of course.


And they're probably set in gelatin.


And the pastry will have plenty of butter in it. Veganism seems crazy you can't even have a Croissant or a Pain aux Raisins.
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I guess snow is considered as being suitable for vegans, although not particularly nourishing..........cheap though.
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Thanks guys. Seems like there will be plenty of options then wink

Luckily we are in an apartment hotel so do have a kitchen. Looks like it will be cooking in bulk on a night and taking the leftovers in a tub to have on top of chips!
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@Lost123, are you self-catering or in a chalet? If the latter, many UK-run chalets can accommodate vegan diets, as long as they know in advance. If the former, sorry, but I do think you'll struggle with anything but the most basic foods.
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@Lost123, you'll want to be careful of the frying medium of those chips too! It won't necessarily be pure oil.
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Vegetalien is French for vegan - good luck!
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Lost123 wrote:
chips!


No chance of chips being vegetarian let alone vegan wink
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I once asked the proprietor of a Parisian cafe if there was anything vegetarian on the menu. He laughed heartily and said: "We have salad and we have cheese*". It was a while back and I'm sure things have moved on a bit, but as above I'd be surprised if that progress had made it all the way up into the mountains. If you're self-catering I'm sure you'll be able to find ingredients locally to cater for yourselves, but a packed lunch will probably be the best option for dining on the hill.

*I strongly doubt that the cheese was veggie-friendly...
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to have on top of chips!


As others have pointed out, I'd probably skip the frites.
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As others have pointed out, I'd probably skip the frites.


...and the onion soup is probably made with meat stock.

I found this article which may be useful: http://bitofthegoodstuff.com/2014/09/our-summer-adventure-in-the-french-alps/

Also: google has just turned up these guys: https://hu.ski/ who will deliver meals to your accommodation and have vegan options!
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@Lost123, Serious question, which sweets are you allowed to eat Puzzled
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My daughter stayed with a Spanish family when she was in a vegetarian phase (she's recovering). The (highly educated, very friendly and hospitable) hostess seriously asked if the ham would be PK if chopped up very small. Twisted Evil
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You can do a lot with Puy lentils.....
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What others have said. Certainly vegan food has much more of a following in France now than it did even 2-3 years ago (when that post linked to by HandyHand was penned). In the big-ish cities you'd have no problems whatsoever provided you do your research. However, I've seen no signs of this trend reaching the mountains yet. You might find the odd vegan thing on the menu, but in all honesty the closest you're likely to get will be a veggie risotto, and it's likely to involve butter at some point, so not vegan.

Best option almost certainly packed lunches.
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Isn't it morally acceptable to have a holiday from veganism when you're in a culture which doesn't support it? Or maybe that's the ultimate test and you get more "good vegan" points the harder the struggle.

Second question - does veganism extend to accomodation? You wouldn't be able to stay in most Austrian hotels, pensions etc if you can't tolerate the odd marmot or stuffed boar's head.
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@Lost123, I have to ask, why are you vegan?

Because I am afraid the typical French restaurateur's response to "is there anything vegetarian?" ((I know, different) is, "mais oui, on a des lardons"

If purely ideological, you will have to decide whether you can stomach the food, or whether your stomach can cope.
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I thought I remembered another vegan posting a few days ago, it might be worth a pm to her to see how she has got on in the Alps as a vegan, though I think she is cooking most of the the time in her camper van. Les Arcs is not far from Ste Foy and the poster was touring around http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=3032608&highlight=les+arcs#3032608
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@Lost123, it should be a wonderful and uplifting experience.

As a family we decided a few years ago to be gluten and lactose free as well as vegan and only ever eat ethically sourced and biodynamically produced food. In the Alps we have refined a routine of writing to each of the mountain resorts, restaurants and chalet operators we expect to use setting out our individual dietary requirements (I forgot to mention but Portia is also allergic to fungi, sesame and peanuts and I also get terrible bloating if I consume too many legumes or brassicas). So far we have had nothing but positive experiences and at each venue we are presented with a delicious spread to rival dear Yotam's (we often send in recipe suggestions from Plenty or perhaps some by those lovely Helmsley sisters).
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@ed123, There was a thread in Apres about someone with too many dandelions. You should get in touch with him....Free food for life.
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@montana, - self catering in aparthotel so we have a kitchen luckily.

@hurtle, I'm not too strict (gf is though), so would still eat chips in a shared fryer etc if it was last resort.

@HandyHand, thanks will have a browse through. This is all very reminiscent of my trip to Bolivia in November when we went up to visit Chacaltaya. We had a hotel in jungle that argued black is blue that the soup was vegetarian even though it had lumps of chicken in it.

@stewart woodward, hmmm, dark chocolate, bourbon biscuits, oreos and things like skittles and giant strawberrys too. As I mentioned earlier in post I'm not too strict. I don't eat meat, fish, dairy, but not too bothered about what stuff is cooked in and if someone offered me a sweet I'd probably have it if I wanted it. It has always been more of an environmental impact thing than an animal rights thing.

@pam w, love puy lentils - regularly mix them with red lentils and make spag bol / sloppy joes or filling for sheppards pie. Tbh the topping for the chips I was thinking of was going to be lentil sloppy joes mixture.#

@under a new name, generally more to do with the carbon footprint of animal agriculture and reducing my own output. I could eat meat i think and be ok if I needed to. Dairy is another story.

@ed123, Cheers, Will look at dropping some people a line. Hopefully there should also be some great fruit we can have.
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@pam w,
You can do a lot with Puy lentils.....

yep and you can even eat them Laughing
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I eat vegetarian at least once or twice a week, but vegan....i'd have a job living here wink
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It's difficult to eat a whole one. Laughing
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I've often wondered if Vegan's would refuse to travel in a car, bus, aircraft, etc if it had leather seats?
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@under a new name, generally more to do with the carbon footprint of animal agriculture and reducing my own output. I could eat meat i think and be ok if I needed to. Dairy is another story.


What about the carbon footprint of fruit, veg, etc that is air-freighted or carried on hugely polluting cargo ships? I must decalre a vested interested; my family are dairy, beef and arable farmers. Cool Cool NehNeh NehNeh
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Or the footprint of travelling to the Alps? And lentils.... Not usually grown Europe it must be said.
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I handle Mrs Gorilla's vegetarianism by ordering her pizza at lunch (I speak French, she doesn't)

From experience I have found even this isn't always sure to get you a veggie friendly pizza - having ordered a margarita pizza (universally known to consist of cheese and tomato) at The Yeti bar in Alpe D'Huez I was somewhat surprised to see the topping consisted of far more ham than cheese or tomato.

Afraid I can't help with the OP's quest, just wish them luck - hard enough as a vegetarian eating out in France, can't imagine how hard it will be for a vegan.
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I eat a vegetarian at least once or twice a week, but vegan....i'd have a job living here wink
It's difficult to eat a whole one. Laughing


Yeah - there is no meat on them...could do with a few good feeds
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