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OK - bit cheeky this, and that title to but...

Thought i'd put this up. '
http://youtube.com/v/fJSmWPC5jgk '

This guy, Benni Walch has some really good technique ( IMO) that i'd like to share with you all.

Now with some interest ( for technique comparison), you may spot a familiar colour coordination of a popular ski instruction brand bobbing along free skiing and kinda video bombing in places. My own opinion
of course, comparison sayings like 'Chalk and Cheese' and 'Night and Day' spring to mind and in all honesty, i'm telling it as i see it. What do you say, do you care, does it really matter - prob not.

For me, i'd like to ski as well as Benni Walch - obviously - duh. rolling eyes I'd also like many other things in life that just ain't gonna happen...

Interesting what he does. What stands out for you...

Enjoy, dream and 'dream on' for most of us...

Hope you like.


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Interesting what he does. What stands out for you...


well, for me it's his balance, especially his head stability, upper body nearly always perpendicular to slope, always some and often more angulation than most. Seemingly little inclination, pressure peaks after fall line appear to have no effect upon his stance as if they don't happen.

Small, but always some 'up' or 'forward push' ( very subtle and controlled) into the next turn.

His short turns are very very central. Only snow spray coming from under his boots...

What also obviously stands out surprisingly ( or not for some wink ), is his narrow stance, granted his hips are very narrow i.e he's slim, or, perhaps this stance has propagated from his excellence in moguls - think he's some sort of champion or a very strong competitor.

Chime in anyone...


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@Dave of the Marmottes, Just needed a space either side and inside of the quote characters...

Hope you like as i said earlier and interested in your view.
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Very Harb like...

Is this from a mogul lesson? He looks like he's skiing moguls even on the flat [edit: as you note above]. Also, no speedy big turns in that Vid - it would be interesting to see what he looks like when doing those... I'm guessing less mincing would be in evidence.
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Love it. 1980s mincing technique, compression deceleration in the turn to allow unweighting and then change of ski direction. Its who I was taught to ski.
Totally dated now by the ski with knees over edging/ carving brigade but this is so nice to watch.
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Love it. 1980s mincing technique, compression deceleration in the turn to allow unweighting and then change of ski direction. Its who I was taught to ski.
Totally dated now by the ski with knees over edging/ carving brigade but this is so nice to watch.
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Well, of course, I'd love to be able to ski like that - which of us wouldn't? But to me it looks a little bit "uptight and regimented" - every turn the same. I prefer to watch someone skiing more freely, so on top of their technique that they have no need to think about it, "dancing down the piste", varying things a bit.
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I'm sure he is a superb skier but it all seems a bit 80's shwishy swishy side to side for me.....he must be knackered after 1 run.

Now the bloke in the green top....looks smooth, relaxed (cool Cool . Bet he's not knackered after 1 run. Very Happy
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Whats with the flinging the tails around/leaping over the fall line like that?

http://youtube.com/v/m-xKjnMy2LY
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A better demonstration of all round technique would be something like this ...


http://youtube.com/v/smgGB3FCkjE
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I just love to watch this one, he's not Austrian but Polish


http://youtube.com/v/uW4F8AEiofk
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@DrLawn, very clean stuff... but does anybody else think Is he doing something funny with his upper body / arms or is that just a camera angle thing? (or am I just totally wrong...?)
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I don't actually believe Benni Walch's style is that 80's really but your opinion is yours... However we all ski, whenever we were taught, from whatever ski association in whatever country in whatever decade, it's all about playing with gravity, dancing with accelerations in a fluid manner, enjoying the slide and having fun. It's not deadly serious.
Every couple of months the top guys and gals are slightly mixing theirs and other techniques up and promoting/showing 'something new' on youtube. Try for yourself, adopt or not.
Happy and safe skiing to all of you and thanks for contributing to my original post.

Now just let me watch Benni one more time... NehNeh
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Tim Heeney - I watched just the Benni video above and my first thought was that not all competent and impressive skiing is carving - many people aspire to carve, but it seemed to me only a small part of that video was carving, yet it all looked impressive.
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DB wrote:
A better demonstration of all round technique would be something like this ...


http://youtube.com/v/smgGB3FCkjE


His carving looks very reminiscent of motorbike racing. Very nice all round skiing
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Agree with the 80's swishy comments. He skis beautifully but seems to be working twice as hard as necessary. The one thing that really stood out for me was how on earth the cameraman managed to keep the shot so unbelieveably steady as he tracked Benni thrashing his way down the mountain.
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@Bennisboy, if you Youtube Reilly McGlashan today, you'll see he's posted what he calls ' hybridism 1' a couple of days ago. Go see what's he up to today...
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http://youtube.com/v/aB4PgqeouyA '

Within a few hours of training, these guys can ski anyhow they like. Umm, feet close enough for you now?
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@foxtrotzulu,
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He skis beautifully but seems to be working twice as hard as necessary


in my mind he's making many more turns because skiing is about making turns - lots of turns - he's dancing to his own rhythm ! Without knowing his heart rate etc i have no idea how hard he's working. If you view his real time mogul skiing i hope you can see he doesn't easily get puffed out Shocked Laughing
What stands out is is very centered balance - watch where the snow comes up. Always under his feet...


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@iSnowhead,
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I watched just the Benni video above and my first thought was that not all competent and impressive skiing is carving

and how right you are...IMO.

Good carving is very skillful but it is just another skill like so many others...for sure tipping your ski edges up and slicing through snow is lovely but take away my rotary and edge 'smearing' actions and i enjoy wouldn't myself half as much as i do mixing it all up



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Tim Heeney wrote:

What stands out is is very centered balance - watch where the snow comes up. Always under his feet...


Very good mogul type skiing (e.g. dolphin turns) but there's a lot more snow spraying up from his tails than with McGlashan's skiing. The forwards and backwards movement of Walch's feet indicates to me that McGalsham is better centered. There's more than one way to ski, may be we are only seeing a part of what Walch is capable or just a suboptimal technique for the terrain he is skiing. McGlashan on the other hands adapts his technique very nicey to the terrain rather than using one technique for it all.
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My Amateurish take on it, is that McGlashan's skiing is properly tapping into what modern carving skis are truly capable of, whereas Benni could use his technique on both Shaped and Straight skis.

Both excellent demonstrations....but of very contrasting styles.
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Tim Heeney wrote:
@Bennisboy, if you Youtube Reilly McGlashan today, you'll see he's posted what he calls ' hybridism 1' a couple of days ago. Go see what's he up to today...
'
http://youtube.com/v/aB4PgqeouyA '

Within a few hours of training, these guys can ski anyhow they like. Umm, feet close enough for you now?


He skis very similar to how I do... in my own mind, if not on the actual snow
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@Tim Heeney, I'm sure you are right, but I like skiing to LOOK effortless and elegant regardless of what is going on beneath the surface. As Old Fartbag points out Benni's style is almost retro and looks t certainly doesn't look effortless.
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@Old Fartbag,
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My Amateurish take on it, is that McGlashan's skiing is properly tapping into what modern carving skis are truly capable of, whereas Benni could use his technique on both Shaped and Straight skis.

Both excellent demonstrations....but of very contrasting styles.



well, i'm not gonna argue with that...

What i chuckle at is often or not, is what some people hold up as 'radical' and 'amazing' is a lot of looking good on a blue run - yeah, that's nice looking skiing for sure !
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Tim Heeney wrote:


well, i'm not gonna argue with that...

What i chuckle at is often or not, is what some people hold up as 'radical' and 'amazing' is a lot of looking good on a blue run - yeah, that's nice looking skiing for sure !

Aside from certain movements that are totally counter-productive, I am very sceptical of any instructor who takes a dogmatic approach to technique....as in, "This is always right and that is always wrong".

Having skied over 4 decades, I've seen fads come and go, as well as marked differences in the approach between countries. IMO. There is no one "right" way to ski. Good skiing, is good skiing.

Having learned through both old-school and modern systems, I can see merits in both....depending on where you are skiing, what you are skiing on, the condition of the snow, the speed you are skiing and how crowded/narrow it is.

There is more than one way to skin a cat....though it is important to learn how to tap into the incredible power of modern carving skis (an art that I enjoy grappling with), even if you don't use it 100% of the time.
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On the Benni Walch video - I think you should cut him some slack as he is demonstrating something and he is demonstrating a particular skill at a very high level on terrain for which it would not be my first choice.
What I mean is that the short-swing with a bit of edge check and rebound is a highly effective appropriate technique when you want to ski a genuinely steep slope in a narrow corridor. It is much less the tool of choice on a beautifully smooth blue run! The slight edge check and pop is really handy when the slope is chopped up or cruddy in that it lifts the tails clear of the junk in the pivoted transition. I'd ski like that (well not as polished) on a steep (steep black or steeper) tracked out slope before it became a true mogul field - effective and fun.
Oh and if you find skiing like that knackering it says more about your fitness than the technique - in a nice rhythm it really isn't that tiring.
Does anyone seriously think he can't ski beautiful long and short carves when he wants to?


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Tim Heeney wrote:


What i chuckle at is often or not, is what some people hold up as 'radical' and 'amazing' is a lot of looking good on a blue run - yeah, that's nice looking skiing for sure !



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I'd ski like that (well not as polished) on a steep (steep black or steeper) tracked out slope before it became a true mogul field - effective and fun.


Come to think of it, I was also using that technique on the busy red cat track last run down to resort last week - keeping to one side of the piste in a narrow channel where the artificial snow was building up in uneven piles, albeit with a bit more "swish" and a little less "pop". Optimal for the conditions.
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@DB, Yeah, Reilly can really ski a bit...I've other mates who rate him highly to, you are not alone in this matter...

I will be watching were this 'Hybridism' is going to take him though. It looks like a lower half mix of Harb and 'turning Japaneese' so far.

Just checking his youtube vids, he certainly is a prolific publisher - 21 vids within the last year alone - geez

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@jedster,
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What I mean is that the short-swing with a bit of edge check and rebound is a highly effective appropriate technique when you want to ski a genuinely steep slope in a narrow corridor. It is much less the tool of choice on a beautifully smooth blue run! The slight edge check and pop is really handy when the slope is chopped up or cruddy in that it lifts the tails clear of the junk in the pivoted transition. I'd ski like that (well not as polished) on a steep (steep black or steeper) tracked out slope before it became a true mogul field - effective and fun.
Oh and if you find skiing like that knackering it says more about your fitness than the technique - in a nice rhythm it really isn't that tiring


I'm with you 100% on this. I also find this real fun and a very necessary technique - tiring? - no, no, NO. Fun? - yes, yes, YES! snowHead snowHead snowHead
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