 Poster: A snowHead
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Looking for a new jacket - have seen a surfanic one I like the look of, the insulation is listed as 60 g/m which seems to be at the low end of the spectrum. Bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question, but is this likely to be warm enough? My existing jacket is a very old down one and I'm not really familiar with the synthetic insulation ratings. My salopettes are 60g/m and that seems like it'd be quite thin for a jacket, but I am used to down... Any thoughts?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@nabus, I ski in a shell with underarm vents which offers wind protection only I guess (no fill at all) and layer up underneath, personally I don't like padded jackets and prefer to add on and take off layers depending on temperature and level of climbing being done etc. You can get a huge variation in temperatures from 9am to 3pm so in my view its better to have a few options. I go merino t-shirt, merino zipped polo neck, thin down gilet and shell over, with merino buff around my gills.....good for +10C to -20C in my experience, dumping what I don't need in my rucksack. I always carry another thin layer just in case.
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My salopettes are 60g/m and that seems like it'd be quite thin for a jacket, but I am used to down... Any thoughts?
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Yep, that's lightly insulated. Would think you'd need an extra layer under it for equivalent warmth to your existing jacket.
I agree with @Markymark29 that for all round use, shell and layering is more flexible. But for downhill/lift served I quite like an insulated jacket. Mine has 100g in the body and 60g in the sleeves (primaloft) and I wear it with a single merino LS base layer for most of the season, adding a thin fleece if it very cold, unzipping to dump heat when it warms up. I generally find it too warm at Easter though. But warmth is personal, you may need a bit more protection.
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I've been a convert this season to layering. I previously had a Columbia 3-in-1 so it was layering of a sort but I generally stuck with using it combined. This season I've been using a mixture of merino baselayers with the synthetic down element of the Columbia jacket with either an Arcteryx MX Hoody or Arcteryx Rush Jacket. In Val d'Isere in late March I started the day with a thin merino baselayer with a slightly thicker one next and either the Hoody or Rush. Very quickly I found I had to shed one of the merino layers.
What it all boils down to is how much you feel the cold. I tend to run hot so I need less layers but my wife really feels the cold and will layer up with as many as she can find.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@nabus, 60g/m is a measure of weight per square area. Like paper.
Maybe there's some weird agreement amongst mountain kit builders about how this works, but as the g and the m are pretty well defined I doubt it.
I use an Arc'teryx Atom jacket as my midlayer. Most of the time. Most all round useful thing I possess, ski wear wise. I think although I can't tell now as there are 3 available weights, that's it's the 60g/m version.
I think all Arc are trying to do is give some comparison.
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Same approach as @Markymark29 for me apart from my down layer is a very lightweight jacket, can bundle it up and stuff it in the hardshell pocket. Hardshell is a single thickness of gortex pro so no insulation.
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Thanks all 
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I bought a helly Hansen epic from their retail outlet. Very impassive insulated jacket. £150 in the retail outlet. Very waterproof and breathable 20000. Retails for over £300 even in sales elsewhere
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I use Smartwool Leggings, Norrona lofoten (non insulated) trousers. Foe insulation I use use the legs to get heat into them with an added natural insulation layer from Bacon Rolls for breakfast.
On top I use the smart wool base layer and I found my new TNF micro bobble insulated jacket all I need. Tended to have a goretex shell in bag but the mid layer is enough for me. The only other think is perhaps a fleece gillet under the microboble.
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