Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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That is scary, my worst nightmare! Glad there were no casualties.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nope, I could not see where the ski went either. I think he must have lost it in the crevasse.
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That is scary to watch. It seems having a harness was crucial in this situation. Is that standard for glacier skiing?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Pdsmark wrote: |
That is scary to watch. It seems having a harness was crucial in this situation. Is that standard for glacier skiing? |
Generally yes (offpiste and away from controlled areas), though it depends a bit on the glacier and season/snow cover. I'm quite comfortable skiing almost all of Stubai for example without a harness, most of the time.
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My bum clenched a bit when he fell further in!
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He had all the gear by the look of it, ice screw, harness, ice axe and quite a bit of other stuff, but the one thing that it is really useful is a whistle for occasions like this, funny he didn't seam to have one??
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jeez - you like to think there are some surface clues but nothing really there
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@Dave of the Marmottes,
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you like to think there are some surface clues but nothing really there
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I might be wrong, but it looked like wind blown snow in that area on the surface, so the crevasse might have been visible a few days before, there was fresh/soft snow at the bottom of the crevasse, so it could have been a very new snow bridge?
Local knowledge and a really good guide essential, but things change so quick on glaciers
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On the VB in Chamonix everyone wears a harness but on the glacier off Grand Montets most don't, I think after watching this I will. Guides can help but can't always spot crevasses. A couple of years back one got the chop at GM while leading a crevasse rescue course when he fell in a hole he hadn't seen. There looked like a spare ski on the surface.
I thought I could see a slump in the snow that collapsed.
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Horrifying. The rescue was pretty tricky at the end with the overhang.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Both skis went into the crevasse, and were both still attached to boots after initial fall. The second slip further into the crevasse was when the ski was detached, so it was not the spare ski on the surface. I kept thinking he was going to go deeper to look for the lost ski, but then he turned out not to be that stupid!
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@Bigtipper, yes you're right, he kept on looking for it. His skis were on leashes so he was unlucky to lose it but very luck all the same. A girl knew in Chamonix was coming down last on a glacier, everyone was shouting to her about a hole but she only reacted at the last second and jumped right over it. Unfortunately she also jumped out of one of her skis which disappeared down the hole and was lost.
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You know it makes sense.
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This is quite a timely reminder after our recent instruction on crevasse rescue:
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=118768
One thing we took from it is that it's important not to panic. Rescue can take quite some time - especially if they have to dig a belay - so don't hurry. They all seemed to do everything right yet still lost a ski which necessitated an expensive helicopter evacuation.
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