 Poster: A snowHead
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We live in a world where people go mountain-biking in woods, hurt themselves, and their families sue the owners of the woods, where people ski into closed areas, hurt themselves and sue the Ski resort.
Col the Yeti, The time may come when that all comes to pass. The thing that will force it will be insurance costs - either on resorts, or on skiers not wearing lids. That's a shame, but as we know more of the benefits of safety equipment, things like this will change. That's the power of information.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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From what I have been told, there reason Breahead have introduced an "everyone must where a helmet" policy is down to ice.
Ice forms overnight on the overhead equipment, and then during the day as it warms up a little, it has been falling off. I don't know whether anyone has actually been hit by falling ice, but requiring everyone* out of the slope to have a helmet seems to be the slope's response.
*And I mean everyone: the above info came from an official at one of the races, they were required to wear a helmet at all times whilst out on the slope - including those on foot.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Thu 21-11-13 23:41; edited 2 times in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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RobW, ah, that makes sense!
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Isn't it a pity that a certain someone didn't do a certain amount of research before slinging around their accusations.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Megamum, NOOOO....
the ice must be formed by the actions of a secret clique of helmet-sales-reps intent on selling their spirit damaging product, who infiltrate at night and do their dastardly deed.
Robw - thanks - that makes sense
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stoat of the dead, Of course - smacks hand on forehead in realisation - how silly of me not to realise that. It explains the sudden rise in sales of hoses and water sprayers in Braehead since the summer - local store holders just thought it was the sunny weather this year when in reality it was the dreaded helmet sales reps loading the ice up. 
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I expect by tomorrow a comprehensive response in this thread from all the relevant authorities about this nefarious capitalist plot because in these times of global warming and drought we can't afford to be wasting water on this ICE nonsense or our precious pounds sterling on all these foreign-inspired 'skiing helmets'.
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will see on Saturday... normally wear one outside never have inside.... have been sent to get my gloves once which i locked in the none refundable locker....
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Just read through this thread. The reason for the helmet policy is simply that it led to a reduction in insurance premiums. Hemel operate a similar policy for the same reason. The ice overhead is a myth. It's for the owners monetary gain.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| skison wrote: |
| Hemel operate a similar policy for the same reason. |
How much was the reduction in insurance premiums?
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Anyone else thinks it funny that "Barehead" snowdome is making helmets compulsory?
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You know it makes sense.
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| Haggis_Trap wrote: |
| ^ Take your own as the rental ones are mingin. |
+1
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Here's another one for the helmet debate.
Research now shows that even a mild concussion has effects on the brain that can last months such that sometimes persistent symptoms are thought to be psychological when, in fact, it could be part of an ongoing brain injury.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269105.php
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Poster: A snowHead
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feef, I'm sure there's a lot in that. Obvious conclusion is that you don't want to be hitting your head with or without a helmet. And, unfortunately, you never hear the helmet industry talking about ways to minimise the risk. They enjoy the state of fear they've helped create.
skison, the incidence of head injuries in snowdomes must be miniscule and there are many things higher up the list that could give rise to a liability claim. I just can't see that making the move to compulsory helmets would change the PL premium in any significant way, if at all. Mind you, I'm not sure I buy the falling ice story either - if it were a real threat you'd have to consider what happens if people look up at the ceiling just as a shard is plummeting eyewards.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| feef, I'm sure there's a lot in that. Obvious conclusion is that you don't want to be hitting your head with or without a helmet. And, unfortunately, you never hear the helmet industry talking about ways to minimise the risk. They enjoy the state of fear they've helped create. |
The question that does need asked is, tho... Would a concussion WITHOUT a helmet be a non-concussion WITH a helmet?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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So the OP doesn't use a helmet, and now the conversation shifts to longer term concussion................................
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| feef wrote: |
| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| feef, I'm sure there's a lot in that. Obvious conclusion is that you don't want to be hitting your head with or without a helmet. And, unfortunately, you never hear the helmet industry talking about ways to minimise the risk. They enjoy the state of fear they've helped create. |
The question that does need asked is, tho... Would a concussion WITHOUT a helmet be a non-concussion WITH a helmet? |
Quite possibly. And, conversely, would a non-helmeted concussion mean you get medical treatment, whereas the "less serious" helmeted concussion mean you walk away not knowing you have a brain injury?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| feef wrote: |
| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| feef, I'm sure there's a lot in that. Obvious conclusion is that you don't want to be hitting your head with or without a helmet. And, unfortunately, you never hear the helmet industry talking about ways to minimise the risk. They enjoy the state of fear they've helped create. |
The question that does need asked is, tho... Would a concussion WITHOUT a helmet be a non-concussion WITH a helmet? |
Quite possibly. And, conversely, would a non-helmeted concussion mean you get medical treatment, whereas the "less serious" helmeted concussion mean you walk away not knowing you have a brain injury? |
Just as you would with a non-helmeted "less serious" concussion. imho, wearing a helmet just moves the scale.
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feef, you might get run over by a bus while crossing the road to the helmet shop.
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I am required to wear a helmet while in uniform. I mostly wear a helmet when I'm not, too. One experience of a friend of mine is telling: he was injured while teaching a class when an out-of-control snowboarder collided with him. Said snowboarder was wearing a helmet. My friend wasn't. He went down like a sack of potatoes! Another friend nearly had his forehead skewered by a tree branch at Cooper (not Copper) and now wears a helmet every day. It's not only about brain injuries, but they do factor into it.
That said, I don't understand the restriction. Then again, I'm big on personal responsibility, and am aware that such an attitude is becoming more and more rare.
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As has been said they're a private company, it's up to them to decide on entry/usage requirements, they don't really have to justify them. They could say no Blue Jackets or only skis over 190cm allowed. Is it really any different to a bar saying no entry with trainers or this sign?
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I didn't know the Vatican had a snowdome. That's very interesting.
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| Comedy Goldsmith wrote: |
| I didn't know the Vatican had a snowdome. That's very interesting. |
Well it certainly has a dome.... 
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Alastair Pink, Catholic Church not very keen on protection though.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I don't have a problem with Braehead insisting that helmets must be worn, though if does seem a bit extreme. I had gone there for the Blues Skishop test a few weeks back, and had decided not to bother with the lid as I don't feel the risk of a head injury is that significant skiing indoors, with few unpredictable hazards on soft snow. However, whe skiing on open terrain, with lots of varied uncontrolled hazards, I have chosen to wear a helmet for the last 5+ years.
I'll now quietly admit that my day job is a Health & Safety Officer 
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