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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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New England sorry. That place that threw the tea in the harbor.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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jbob, no it doesn't work quite like that, the Atlantic acts as a moderator. Cold is more likely to come from the north or east than west.
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As a lay man looking at the charts, too me things look promising from next week, certainly a cool down next week, temps back to where they should be, freezing at 1000m and well below at 2000m, also signs of a decent fall of snow next Monday / Tuesday across the alps. After that the models are all pointing towards a cool down with cold weather and also unsettled with a chance of precipitation often. This will fall as snow, so from where I sit it looks to be an improing picture. No Massive dump in the forecast for next 10 days but cooler snowier weather from next week should improve conditions across the board.
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Renry, in the short term the cold weather in the US has limited direct impact in itself on Europe. As I mentioned above the warm waters of the Atlantic would moderate any weather moving from the US to Europe.
However, there is a broader question which relates to a possible longer term trend towards increased blocking as the jet stream takes on a more meridional pattern and there are some suggestions that this might be a result of melting Arctic sea ice.
A more meridional jet stream would be more likely to lead to more extremes of weather, so periods of very hot weather, very cold weather, very dry weather, very wet weather, and we've seen all types of these in the Alps in recent years. Whether that is as a result of fundamental shifts or part of natural variability is of course a much contested question, but there is substantial scientific opinion to suggest we are seeing indications of climate change and these could well be just such indications.
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=89088&start=80
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Soaranski
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How will that impact on the Alps?
Well.............it might be a bit/lot colder than normal or it might be a bit/lot warmer than normal. OR...it might be the same.
Confused
Who knows for sure. But if you're a one-week-a-year skier and you've booked and paid, (as I have) it's not "worth keeping an eye on". wink
You're going anyway. Enjoy.
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I would disagree. If you are a seasoner then its not worth keeping an eye on as you are going to see good and bad whatever happens and will experience some great skiing regardless of fluctuations. If you are a one-week-a-year skier then you should be glued to it because if there is any chance that the holiday you have looked forward to for 51 weeks and spent a fortune on may turn out to be a disappointment you are going to be anxious. You are praying every day it will be perfect and looking forward to it. If I go skiing and there is no snow (happened twice in my life time) quite frankly I would rather lose my money and stay at home as I certainly will not be enjoying it. Nowadays the snow making should ensure there will be plenty to do but on one holiday to bereges about 5-6 years ago it was green and t shirt weather and there was absolutely nothing to do or enjoy all week when all you had done for months is dream of the snow.
That is why people are on here every 5 minutes hoping for good news.
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mheadbee, Well said!
Being self employed if I took time off to do something that I can't do then I'd only be compounding the loss. At least if I stayed at home I could try and earn the money back?
I'm off on the 18th and its been a wee bit squeaky the last two weeks, not the worst, that was Jan 07 when it literally snowed for 5 days from the night I arrived to save the holiday.
Anyway, fingers and toes crossed 
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I agree with you mheadb. For many of us a ski trip is a big investment and something we wait eagerly for all year. For me, this trip may be my only chance to ski in the alps for many years as I live on the other side of the world. Luckily it looks like the resorts I've chosen should be okay even if there's no fresh powder. My plan A had Austria in it and that would have had me pretty worried by now.
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Strong cross model support now for a more blocked pattern and colder weather next week as high pressure cuts the Atlantic off.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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nozawaonsen, will cutting off the Atlantic tend to cut off the systems which bring the precipitation too?
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| pam w wrote: |
| nozawaonsen, will cutting off the Atlantic tend to cut off the systems which bring the precipitation too? |
The wigglies seems a bit flat but at least its cold- its a start
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You know it makes sense.
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| pam w wrote: |
| nozawaonsen, will cutting off the Atlantic tend to cut off the systems which bring the precipitation too? |
Yes, it could although it looks like there could be 15-25cms falling to low levels next Monday/Tuesday. After that it's less clear
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Poster: A snowHead
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Out in wengen on the 18 jan. Don't no whether to take old grotty kit and then it doesn't matter if it gets ruined (as in jan 07 - Avoriaz) or whether to take my nicer kit and risk getting it ruined.
Dilemmas, dilemmas. 🏂
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NE1, Take both.
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queen bodecia, who says the snow is relatively poor?? Seems top to bottom skiing available in most places, I remember years with bottom slopes shut, all brown etc etc
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kitenski, yes I agree, but there's been a lot of moaning going on about relative lack of snow. I think the absence of safe and decent off-piste conditions might be to blame. From what I can see most pisted areas look fine, although there might be more than the usual proportion of manufactured snow.
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queen bodecia, Snow was fine last week. Only one run I went on had a low snow warning ( Jerusalem at the bottom of the run) Unless you are only talking about Austria?
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blahblahblah, I haven't been skiing anywhere yet this season, my comment was about frayed tempers and general trolling/sniping on here. I don't remember this sort of behaviour last season when the snow was fluffy and bountiful... 
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queen bodecia, ahh, ok.
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blahblahblah, not a vintage season in the northern parts of Austria, yet! The southern Austrian alps have benefited quite well from a couple of systems moving up from the south. Around ski amade I believe the piste are complete and holding up, there was 15-20cms a few days ago, friends telling me of some okay powder off piste after the last snowfall. I'm sure conditions could be better but law of averages hopefully means there should be plenty of decent snowfall over the next few months. This was posted by kooky the other day from Wagrain, don't look too bad. Forecast looks better for next week, which is handy as I'll be making a visit.
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I'm heading to Chamonix and the snow looks pretty much ok to me. Cold next week and maybe a bit of snow so could be a lot worse!
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queen bodecia, maybe I cruise round different threads than you, but I haven't noticed any more sniping and trolling than usual.
And as for snow conditions, memories are short.
Sure, we have had 2 fantastic seasons in 2012/2013 and 2011/2012, but the season before that was very different.
Take La Plagne: according to SCGB the average for the last 20 years for the first week in January is 147cm/73cm (upper slopes/lower slopes).
Quoted conditions right now are 150cm/75cm,
In 2010/11 the figures were 116cm/49cm.
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Also it can change very fast.... I remember doing a season in La Plagne in 98/99 and after a good start January was sunny and pretty warm. Lots of grass showing and I recall saying "we need a metre of snow fast"... we had about 30cm of snow base at Plagne Centre if I recall. Then, it actually snowed about 250cm and we have almost 3m base in the resort and 5m at the top !! That started about the 21st Jan !
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It's not a great start here in Chamonix but it's OK. In an average season only 8-12 days out of 100 are usually powder days, not counting the November snow we have already had 3-4, so no complaints here. I have to say skiing at Les Houches today it felt very like April, even had a bit of poor mans powder (slush). It was a very enjoyable days skiing in the sunshine. The Friday snow has disappeared from the ensembles and the meteo Cham forecasts. Still predicting a major cold period starting next week. No need to panic there's plenty of good skiing.
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You know it makes sense.
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There's a big lump on the ensemble for Monday/Tuesday though jbob, so fingers crossed. Although I'm not out till Wednesday so a bit late for me anyway but a least a freshen up I hope.
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skiing at Les Houches today it felt very like April, even had a bit of poor mans powder (slush)
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It was just like April in Les Saisies today too, some very nice slooshy stuff on south facing slopes then later a slight touch of that sticky stuff that throws you over the front of the skis. Pistes facing away from the sun still have lovely snow. I screeched to a halt on one of them when I saw something lying in the middle of the piste which turned out to be an iphone. It has an English message on it and I've mentioned it to a few english people I know here but it's locked and I really CBA to get the car out and drive to the municipal police lost property office with it. I'll take it in next time I go but if people let their phones fall out of their pocket they maybe have more chance of getting it back fast if they don't lock it.
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pam w, Agreed,found two phones recently, and just called the last couple of numbers and left my details.
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blahblahblah, my nephew lost an iphone on the slopes last year. French family found it, dialled last number called, all sorted out very swiftly with much handshaking and entente cordiale.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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looking at the webcams though it seems there are some patches appearing pretty quickly, another two days of this is going to make things look a little sorry. Sure it will be fine and considering I start skiing on Sunday and will be sticking to the pistes just to get my legs working again should be alright.
Still fingers crossed for Snow on Monday and Tuesday. Dont want these dry conditions to last as it might end up being incredibly icy if it stay dry after this warm spell/almost all the fresh snow disappearing.
also pam very true, but i live in london, i have known people who have lost their phones and as a result have had people who have found it rack up a £100+ in one night calling people abroad. Unfortunately not many people are as upstanding as those posting here. Shame but true.
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Some not unhelpful snowfall cropping up on the 12z GFS.
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Some not unhelpful snowfall cropping up on the 12z GFS.
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Eek tignes is right on the edge of that, I hope it moves north west a smidge please.
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2planks, I think Austria deserves some..
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| Feast wrote: |
| 2planks, I think Austria deserves some.. |
Yes of course, I'm just being a bit greedy...
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That would be a gift, I arrive in Ischgl on the 16th!
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| mheadbee wrote: |
I would disagree. If you are a seasoner then its not worth keeping an eye on as you are going to see good and bad whatever happens and will experience some great skiing regardless of fluctuations. If you are a one-week-a-year skier then you should be glued to it because if there is any chance that the holiday you have looked forward to for 51 weeks and spent a fortune on may turn out to be a disappointment you are going to be anxious. You are praying every day it will be perfect and looking forward to it. If I go skiing and there is no snow (happened twice in my life time) quite frankly I would rather lose my money and stay at home as I certainly will not be enjoying it. Nowadays the snow making should ensure there will be plenty to do but on one holiday to bereges about 5-6 years ago it was green and t shirt weather and there was absolutely nothing to do or enjoy all week when all you had done for months is dream of the snow.
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Really? Sure I'd be disappointed if the place I'd booked for a ski trip had no snow come departure day but no way would I waste all the money I'd spent and stay at home instead of go anyway. I love being in the mountains snow or no snow and would pack my hiking boots and walking gear and make the best of it enjoying the scenery, food and drink.
If I was someone who just wouldn't go if there wasn't much snow then it'd be really quite a daft thing to do to book anything much in advance anyway wouldn't it?
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