 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Not good 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Damn. Unverified, but the report I read was they were on a backcountry survival course. Instructor was one of the victims.
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TGR slidezone has a lot of commentary on this including from SAR people involved. Backcountry course, uphill travel, guide was one of the vics it seems. Well rated in the area it seems. Sucks.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I'm in 2 minds about the Lou Dawson commentary, clearly he is right in that there has to have been some heuristic error to have that many people caught but also it seems to provide a platform for many people to demonstrate how superior they are by not travelling in such large groups etc etc.
Clearly there are multiple learning points but it seems to me they'd be better considered in the light of the full formal report.
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Very sad. Surprisingly shallow slope at the headwall - I don't think I'd have suspected it, if that is where they were.
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fatbob, yup, it's a bit grim to engage in speculation without any real knowledge.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Fascinating report and pictures.. and an unfortunate conclusion:
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They selected terrain that was less likely to produce a deep-slab avalanche, but to get there they traveled through a dangerous area. Unfortunately, the travel technique employed to mitigate the risk was not effective for the size of the avalanche that released.
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Ssshittt
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The first two members in the group had reached the small stand of trees, with the other 4 group members close behind, when they felt a large collapse and heard a whumpf. It took several seconds for the crack to propagate uphill and release the deep slab. In those several seconds, they all ran for the far end of the slope and towards the small stand of trees.
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They knew it was coming and the island of safety didn't help. Survivor trapped for 4 hours with his crew dead around him within feet. Awful.
Like pulling out the bottom of a Jenga tower.
On a tangential point and definitely NOT a direct commentary on this event, anyone think the industry could do more e.g. in ski porn to show the number of times that it's necessary to make a no go decision in getting the fantastic footage? I know there's a segment in Jeremy Jones bit of 91 Words for Snow where he flys up in a heli does some cutting of cornices and flies out home again glumly. Something which demonstrates there's no shame in making a conservative decision might encourage a default of "it'll be bad, prove otherwise" rather than "should be ok, positive ticklist"
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You know it makes sense.
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that makes me all the more grateful that we rarely have to deal with a true continental snowpack in the alps
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